Old Trafford where the players entrance/tunnel they can get access from there but not right onto the pitch
I can probably find out the extent NR own.As a rough guess, GCC probably own the bit between the Albion and the filling station as there used to be a couple of high rise blocks there. Network Rail will be responsible for the land with the railway sidings that extends towards Helen Street
I wouldn't I'd rather capacity increase no matter how smallIf the work to be carried out only adds say an extra 3000 then i would rather the money was spent on surrounding areas the walkways leading up to Ibrox are full of potholes ect the car park space where the memorial garden was meant to go doesnt get used the place is in dire need of work
I can probably find out the extent NR own.
NR would be relatively simple to deal with I would reckon.
They are selling a lot of land off to raise capital.
Needless to say we won't be spending vast comes on upgrading capacity, however Liverpools new stand cost them £110million not £200 million. The £200 million was combined costs of new training ground, shops and area around Anfield
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...ew-main-stand-earns-club-extra-12m-last-year/
If the work to be carried out only adds say an extra 3000 then i would rather the money was spent on surrounding areas the walkways leading up to Ibrox are full of potholes ect the car park space where the memorial garden was meant to go doesnt get used the place is in dire need of work
Could they take an inch off of every seat and add in extra? Even 10 per row would give you about an extra 750 hours n Govan alone? Possibly similar between Copland and Broomloan?
Could they take an inch off of every seat and add in extra? Even 10 per row would give you about an extra 750 hours n Govan alone? Possibly similar between Copland and Broomloan?
They can actually. The section above the tunnel is on a hydraulic platform, which can be raised to allow emergency services access directly to pitch side.
That would be alright for me because I am a wee Bear but there are Bears round about me who could do with an extra 10 inches.Could they take an inch off of every seat and add in extra? Even 10 per row would give you about an extra 750 hours n Govan alone? Possibly similar between Copland and Broomloan?
I think we have a great Stadium that just needs tweaked, there appears to be a lot of people on here with no grasp of Financial reality.
I was referring to these fans who think we should knock down 3 stands and build new ones, I believe we should try and get a 5/7 thousand extension but I think it is vital that we expand the Corporate BoxesNot sure if that’s 100% fair Robert.
The club must think like most fans that Ibrox is a little smaller than potentially we need. They also see despite not being full always that Celtic get a financial gain from having the bigger stadium.
Some people one here dismissed the idea of expansion out of hand claiming due to their business acumen that we couldn’t do it which seems wrong given the news the club are planning to expand.
There are other people who IMHO rightly suggest it’s not necessarily how much money the club has to put in and more about finding a partner in the project that gains in exposure or their own commercial interests. Add into that an obvious thawing in relations by the city council who now maybe accept the historical aspect of Ibrox. Finding people to come in on the project could make things happen. Club could also raise money on the future increase in revenue with said partners over a period of time.
I think it’s very prevalent within the rangers support to be a bit reserved and conservative but Rangers have always been innovative and look to improve all throughout our history.
I accept its very different financial times to when we modernised Ibrox back in the day or when we decided to add club deck or fill corners but there are people and companies with money who will still add to building projects.
Given our proximity to the airport I always thought we would appeal to a huge airline or hotel chain who would perhaps build a hotel at the ground and develop that way.
I’m very hopeful with what has been said about the importance of 2022 that the board will surprise us with something really good.
Could they take an inch off of every seat and add in extra? Even 10 per row would give you about an extra 750 hours n Govan alone? Possibly similar between Copland and Broomloan?
Could they take an inch off of every seat and add in extra? Even 10 per row would give you about an extra 750 hours n Govan alone? Possibly similar between Copland and Broomloan?
I was referring to these fans who think we should knock down 3 stands and build new ones, I believe we should try and get a 5/7 thousand extension but I think it is vital that we expand the Corporate Boxes
The water table problem could easily be overcome by digging down and 'tanking 'I’ll be honest I firmly believe if we want to be the biggest club in the country we need the stadium to be same or more than Celtic ideally. I know there are potentially huge costs in that hence the reason for the partners I mention before to be involved.
Ideally an extra tier on the Govan or a new three tier stand would be the ideal fix as you can see the capacity increase at Liverpool with their new 21,000 seat stand but when you see the costs involved with that it is as you say pie in the sky probably.
What we are looking into I guess is digging down and finding a solution to the water table problem to add extra few rows in front of existing stands and perhaps putting seats where the screens are.
As a wheelchair user I’ve also got other priorities when it comes to expansion as we need many more accessible seating solutions.
I don’t know how many seats long our stands are, it would be interesting to know that as it would give good estimate what each new row would add
I’m 6” and I’m okay, so you’re needing to loose something off your ass!I am 5’9 and it’s tight as %^*& already!
The water table problem could easily be overcome by digging down and 'tanking '
it very similar to a swimming pool, not sure the cost but it is an option.
Extend the front of the rear of both Copland and Broomloan similar to the Govan Rear
There are lots of wee things you can do, but all down to cost.
I think the Govan is about 120 sets long, so other two are probably 60
Great news although would have been great to see us take the capacity to above 60k
The dream is to have 3 extra tiers on the broomland, copland and govan. As well as filling in the corners and giant tv's. What do you think that would bring the capacity to??
that is a little bit of overkill i reckon - maybe just the one extra tier on each stand first then see how we get on?
Three extra tiers on three stands? How are you going to find the space for that? You would be better off demolishing the Broomloan, Copland and Govan and making it a bowl shape while keeping the Main Stand.The dream is to have 3 extra tiers on the broomland, copland and govan. As well as filling in the corners and giant tv's. What do you think that would bring the capacity to??
Even betterYou're half out on the seats. The Govan is 120 yards long and there's about two seats a yard. Similarly with the end stands. Bar72 created 700 seats by adding on three rows.
Even better
I have not looked at in detail, but surely a cantilever system would allow for extra rows ?The issue is that you can't do what we did to the Govan with the end stands as there is no overhang presently. While they look similar, they're not identical. Any top tier front row additional would simply lose the last row of the lower tier.
You're only option to gain seats in that space is to merge the lower and upper tier and that requires much more work and expense.
I have not looked at in detail, but surely a cantilever system would allow for extra rows ?
That could be done with a few adjustments, anyway I have enough problems with our work in The Louden@Mr Aqua
Not without losing the row below it. The pitch on the Govan stand front and rear sections is different to the end stands.
You can see here in 1985 or so long before Bar72 existed how the stands differ and why it was possible on the Govan.
That could be done with a few adjustments, anyway I have enough problems with our work in The Louden
I’ve always wondered if something could be done with the Argyle Suite hospitality boxes at the back of the Govan Rear. There’s a hell of a lot of wasted space there in the boxes, if these were refurbished, I reckon you could add another 4 or 5 rows of seats along the entire length of The Govan. The centre seats could be kept for the hospitality seats the same as every other hospitality section in the stadium, but you would still plenty left at either side to be sold as premium season tickets rather than the lower level seats that lowering stands have created.
In the original " Blue Heaven" plans the screens were never ment to be there.
It was seats all the way. 58k rings a bell.
The screens are damn eyesore. Never ever any need for those at all.
Why the need for the screens anyway? I never did pay attention to them.
@Mr Aqua
Not without losing the row below it. The pitch on the Govan stand front and rear sections is different to the end stands.
You can see here in 1985 or so long before Bar72 existed how the stands differ and why it was possible on the Govan.
The picture in your post is brilliant as it shows the roof support structures (dark/black boxes on the two stand roofs and the pillars on the ends closest the pitch) which are the biggest problem for any plan to fill in the corners. I wonder if the feasibility studies are looking at the potential to replace these with much longer beams and pillars outwith the stadium footprint without needing to remove the existing roofs? That would allow for filling the corners to the full height. If it was done in a way where the Sandy Jardine roof beam was supported by the end stands roof beams or the roof was changed to a cantilever supported system then it could make putting a third tier on the Sandy Jardine stand slightly easier. FWIW, that third tier is where I’d put any away fans, out of sight, out of mind and enclosed by Perspex.
That's essentially what they did at the San Siro for the 1990 WC in extending the roof supports past the perimiter of the stadium.
It's not the modern way to do it. A light (by comparison) cantilever roof like they've got at Old Trafford for example, would allow the black pillars to be removed and have no restricted view seats in the area.
It's the "best" way to do it but cost is the issue.
I've said on a few threads now all the same that I do wonder if Ibrox would lose some of its volume. The roof structure we have just now keeps in so much of the noise due to being over engineered. It's why Ibrox is far louder than the likes of Parkhead (despite the lines trotted out about great European atmospheres) as noithing leaves the ground. It's fucking deafening at times in a way that other grounds bit more recently can't be.
Three extra tiers on three stands? How are you going to find the space for that? You would be better off demolishing the Broomloan, Copland and Govan and making it a bowl shape while keeping the Main Stand.