The Huguenot
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I will believe it when I see it.
They won’t recall him. It gives is a year to get the money together. It is obligation to buy not options to buy i’m sure.Just catching up on things, seeing 'loan with obligation to buy'. What's the benefits of loan with obligation? I don't see any for us apart from giving more time to get fee together (which is likely the key) but would it still leave Liverpool with option to recall after season i.e. we agree loan with an obligation to buy for say 7M, he tears up EL, wins us 55 and everyone is after him, can LFC recall and punt to English team for 14M+?
I don't see the difference, from buyers perpsective betweeen loan with obligation to buy and just buying with generous payment milestones? Can someone educate me?
It's the same situation we had with Murphy where we loaned him initially but the transfer is pretty much confirmed at the same time. It'll be a financial thingJust catching up on things, seeing 'loan with obligation to buy'. What's the benefits of loan with obligation? I don't see any for us apart from giving more time to get fee together (which is likely the key) but would it still leave Liverpool with option to recall after season i.e. we agree loan with an obligation to buy for say 7M, he tears up EL, wins us 55 and everyone is after him, can LFC recall and punt to English team for 14M+?
I don't see the difference, from buyers perpsective betweeen loan with obligation to buy and just buying with generous payment milestones? Can someone educate me?
hav u seen rangers in to euro finals i have neva mind my spellin my hearts in the right placeSix words and you could only spell two correctly.
Realistically it’ll be Kent and no left back, or a left back and no Kent.
More than happy with either scenario.
The reality is, even as things stand, the opposition are not going to be certain which line up they are going to face until the teams sheets are handed in an hour before kick off.Arfield is one of my favourite players but the thought of Kent and Ojo linking up, swapping wings and all round torturing defences sure does make my plums tingle.
Could play the 3 of them in a 4-2-3-1 behind Alfredo / Defoe all interchanging, no need to play 3 cm's in the "easier" home games.Arfield is one of my favourite players but the thought of Kent and Ojo linking up, swapping wings and all round torturing defences sure does make my plums tingle.
Absolutely. I posted these potential combinations earlier in the threadThe reality is, even as things stand, the opposition are not going to be certain which line up they are going to face until the teams sheets are handed in an hour before kick off.
The addition of Kent will only increase our options and add to the uncertainty of others.
You're at it. "hely copt it sunday" indeed.hav u seen rangers in to euro finals i have neva mind my spellin my hearts in the right place
Arfield is one of my favourite players but the thought of Kent and Ojo linking up, swapping wings and all round torturing defences sure does make my plums tingle.
Wouldn't say we are overloaded at all.Kent coming back would be amazing but we are overloaded with wide players,
Makes Barker a very strange signing.
Also the end of Murphy .
I think the advantage to do the deal that way is to be able to complete the deal outside the window. Danny Ings was on loan at Southampton and the day before the transfer window opened, they announced he had completed the deal. Although it was only registered on the opening day, the clubs had already agreed the deal as per the loan, so no one could hijack it.Just catching up on things, seeing 'loan with obligation to buy'. What's the benefits of loan with obligation? I don't see any for us apart from giving more time to get fee together (which is likely the key) but would it still leave Liverpool with option to recall after season i.e. we agree loan with an obligation to buy for say 7M, he tears up EL, wins us 55 and everyone is after him, can LFC recall and punt to English team for 14M+?
I don't see the difference, from buyers perpsective betweeen loan with obligation to buy and just buying with generous payment milestones? Can someone educate me?
Let's say you are selling your house for 500K, I want the house but can only pay 250K. Your not going to give me it for that price just because you have more money than I do.
I'm afraid it doesn't work that way. Liverpool will, quite rightly, hold out for what they feel the player is worth. Only when/if no-one meets that valuation will they start negotiating the price, payment structure etc.
Didn't see that. Same point minus your working!Absolutely. I posted these potential combinations earlier in the thread
Kent Ojo
Kent Arfield
Jones Kent
Arfield Ojo
Jones Arfield
Jones Ojo
Mouth watering.
Not sure how ‘sided’ any of our wingers are. With the exception of Stewart (who is really not a winger) all the others have been played on both sides in different games.
I think the team role might be more significant. So we have:
“True” winger (fast, able to beat a man, focussed on delivering crosses): Jones, Hastie, Barker, Kent (if there is any chance of him coming)
Inside forward (tends to cut in more; focussed on scoring): Arfield, Stewart (even if it’s not his best role)
Mixture able to play both: Ojo, Murphy (albeit with fitness issues)
I keep thinking i’ve forgotten someone.
If we choose to play with one winger and one inside forward then I suspect Ojo and Arfield are competing for the inside forward role while Jones, Barker and Ojo compete to be the winger.
If Kent came in then we’d have 4 players competing for the one winger role plus Hastie further back. We do seem a bit overloaded in that department. Though Kent is good enough to be worth it
Wouldn't say we are overloaded at all.
Jones
Ojo
Barker
Kent
Even then I'd still class Ojo as more of an inside forward. Stewart, Arfield the same.
Doubt we'll see Murphy feature much tbh. Grezda is finished, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Hastie go on loan. So it looks like we'll have 2 players for each wing, much in line with the rest of the pitch.
DyslexiaYou're at it. "hely copt it sunday" indeed.
Barker will be for next year when ojo goes back too LiverpoolKent coming back would be amazing but we are overloaded with wide players,
Makes Barker a very strange signing.
Also the end of Murphy .
We get Kent we don’t need a left backRealistically it’ll be Kent and no left back, or a left back and no Kent.
More than happy with either scenario.
By a helluva long way, I’d rather have option one.Realistically it’ll be Kent and no left back, or a left back and no Kent.
More than happy with either scenario.
I did say it was strange that none of the new signings took #14 and I was shot down in flames
Kent would be our second best forward player behind Morelos.Why are folk saying we dont need Kent? Surely having more good players in the squad is what it's all about.
The beggars were terrified of him last season and I for one would be delighted to get him back.
Arfield will still be a starter if kent comes i’d imagineArfield is one of my favourite players but the thought of Kent and Ojo linking up, swapping wings and all round torturing defences sure does make my plums tingle.
I did say it was strange that none of the new signings took #14 and I was shot down in flames
With the squad that we've assembled I don't think there's many who will be guaranteed starters. Plenty of rotation.Arfield will still be a starter if kent comes i’d imagine
That valuation has dropped since their window closed though and the only chance of it increasing again is a move outwith the top two leagues in England.Let's say you are selling your house for 500K, I want the house but can only pay 250K. Your not going to give me it for that price just because you have more money than I do.
I'm afraid it doesn't work that way. Liverpool will, quite rightly, hold out for what they feel the player is worth. Only when/if no-one meets that valuation will they start negotiating the price, payment structure etc.
We get Kent we don’t need a left back
In not covered ,Kent was at Duck Bay marina yesterday
Can someone summarise the last 8 pages for me? Is there anything concrete to say he's signing or just the usual rumour and bluster?
Cheers.Rumour but 4lads are running with it so I wouldn't file it under bullshit.
I must be one of the only people not overly excited with Kent. Hardly noticed him first half of last season.
Would much prefer another genuine striker.
Our left backs will be fine also.