Pedro set to take over Cruz Azul

[The Great One]

Amusing that some are still clinging onto the notion that he was doing a great job and was the next Guardiola. And if only it wasn't for John Beaton we'd be on the verge of something special!

Amusing that some are still clinging onto the notion that he was doing a great job and was the next Guardiola. And if only it wasn't for John Beaton we'd be on the verge of something special!

If you squint your eyes, look from a distance ignore the results, signings, humiliations, wasted money, shite performances, failure to win 3 on the trot, failure to win more than 1 homes game, keep saying last season wasn't his team, adopt a mantra of everything totally is fine then you can sort of vaguely see a football manager....Nah not for me.

Maybe he'll prove us all wrong with this mid table Mexican team though.

Amusing that some are still clinging onto the notion that he was doing a great job and was the next Guardiola. And if only it wasn't for John Beaton we'd be on the verge of something special!

If you squint your eyes, look from a distance ignore the results, signings, humiliations, wasted money, shite performances, failure to win 3 on the trot, failure to win more than 1 homes game, keep saying last season wasn't his team, adopt a mantra of everything totally is fine then you can sort of vaguely see a football manager....Nah not for me.

Maybe he'll prove us all wrong with this mid table Mexican team though.

If you squint your eyes, look from a distance ignore the results, signings, humiliations, wasted money, shite performances, failure to win 3 on the trot, failure to win more than 1 homes game, keep saying last season wasn't his team, adopt a mantra of everything totally is fine then you can sort of vaguely see a football manager....Nah not for me.

Maybe he'll prove us all wrong with this mid table Mexican team though.

FFS
In better shape?
He spent between 8 and 9 million quid.

He left us in fourth place days after being humiliated at Hampden by Motherwell

Wasted 5m on Cardoso, Pena and Herrera...

Thanks Pedro for being a nice guy.

 

[Taki]

I don 't understand this "Pedro was shit" nonsense. Officials cheated the club out of 3 points against Hivs, another 2 against Hearts for the disallowed offside goal. Celtic arguably got 2 against PT for the last minute stonewall penalty. Another 2 points lost after the penalty fiasco and another wrongful sending off against Kilmarnock.
We could be 3 points clear at the top, and Pedro is a hero.
This next manager will face the same problem, it's not going away any time soon.

But people could see we slowly disintegrated against Hibs. That Kilmarnock deserved a draw. That we huffed and puffed against Hearts. That Celtic jogged around our stadium (again). That Motherwell bullied us and ultimately beat us comfortably at Hampden. Hampden! People could see these things and knew somehow that they mattered more than the referee being poor.

 

[Haining84]

I don 't understand this "Pedro was shit" nonsense. Officials cheated the club out of 3 points against Hivs, another 2 against Hearts for the disallowed offside goal. Celtic arguably got 2 against PT for the last minute stonewall penalty. Another 2 points lost after the penalty fiasco and another wrongful sending off against Kilmarnock.
We could be 3 points clear at the top, and Pedro is a hero.
This next manager will face the same problem, it's not going away any time soon.

He lost to the tims 5-1 at Ibrox a week after a feeble Old Firm semi final defeat.

He was humiliated over 2 legs by minnows from Luxembourg.

He lost a cup semi final to Motherwell.

He banished Miller,Niko and the captain from the home dressing room.

Players such as Bruno Alves thought he was out his depth.

We had an unhappy dressing room.

He was giving a substantial transfer kitty to spend.

Pena & Herrera are on £40k a week between them.

He was tactically poor.

He was struggling against the likes of Patrick Thistle.

He talked sh!t.

And he failed to win 3 games on the bounce.

 

[Teddyjohn]

But people could see we slowly disintegrated against Hibs. That Kilmarnock deserved a draw. That we huffed and puffed against Hearts. That Celtic jogged around our stadium (again). That Motherwell bullied us and ultimately beat us comfortably at Hampden. Hampden! People could see these things and knew somehow that they mattered more than the referee being poor.

That's without even mentioning losing over two legs to the fourth best team in Luxembourg, getting cuffed 5-1 at home by the mentally challengeds and losing an undefeated home record versus Aberdeen that the club had held for a quarter of a century.

 

[The Great One]

Out of Europe to a bunch of taxi drivers
1 home win in 5 league games
Drew with a Hearts side managed by Jon Daly.
Couldn't beat a Partick Thistle side without a win or 11 men
mentally challengeds took the piss out of us again
Humiliated at Hampden by a Motherwell side that signed 10 players from the lower leagues in England.

 

[Overanout]

Good luck Pedro, massive club to be taking over.

 

[Taki]

That's without even mentioning losing over two legs to the fourth best team in Luxembourg, getting cuffed 5-1 at home by the mentally challengeds and losing an undefeated home record versus Aberdeen that the club had held for a quarter of a century.

I can almost live with this season (Europe notwithstanding) as it's recoverable but the tail end of last season and what Caixinha put us through will take a long time to forget.

 

[muttley]

I don 't understand this "Pedro was shit" nonsense. Officials cheated the club out of 3 points against Hivs, another 2 against Hearts for the disallowed offside goal. Celtic arguably got 2 against PT for the last minute stonewall penalty. Another 2 points lost after the penalty fiasco and another wrongful sending off against Kilmarnock.
We could be 3 points clear at the top, and Pedro is a hero.
This next manager will face the same problem, it's not going away any time soon.

If we should thank Pedro for at least one thing, it is that he more than hinted at the ingrained corruption against our club from the SFA and especially referees. I feel sorry for any new Manager we eventually get, as he's going to face the exact same scenario.

 

[govantrueblue]

I wish the guy well however there is no denying he was an appalling manager.

The back to back Celtic games was enough for me, He sat in the stand and watched Murty flood the midfield and gain a draw against the filth, Roll on weeks later and he goes with 3 in midfield for the semi, We were awful and fortunate to only go down by two, The following week he went with the same tactics which resulted in a 5-1 thrashing.
That for me was enough, he was totally clueless and To be honest he was massively out of his depth.

 

[instructor]

Gordon Smith said that Pena at his recent clubs has always went out on loan, can anyone confirm this?

 

[MoodyBlue1872]

Gordon Smith said that Pena at his recent clubs has always went out on loan, can anyone confirm this?

Senior career
Years Team Apps (Gls)
2010–2011 Pachuca 20 (1)
2011–2013 → León (loan) 63 (14)
2013–2015 León 89 (28)
2016–2017 Guadalajara 33 (8)
2017 → León (loan) 17 (2)
2017– Rangers 7 (3)

 

[instructor]

Senior career
Years Team Apps (Gls)
2010–2011 Pachuca 20 (1)
2011–2013 → León (loan) 63 (14)
2013–2015 León 89 (28)
2016–2017 Guadalajara 33 (8)
2017 → León (loan) 17 (2)
2017– Rangers 7 (3)

Interesting, so he goes on loan to Leon a lot.

 

[MoodyBlue1872]

Interesting, so he goes on loan to Leon a lot.

Been on loan twice to them and once permanent.

 

[sudamericaranger]

He lost to the tims 5-1 at Ibrox a week after a feeble Old Firm semi final defeat.

He was humiliated over 2 legs by minnows from Luxembourg.

He lost a cup semi final to Motherwell.

He banished Miller,Niko and the captain from the home dressing room.

Players such as Bruno Alves thought he was out his depth.

We had an unhappy dressing room.

He was giving a substantial transfer kitty to spend.

Pena & Herrera are on £40k a week between them.

He was tactically poor.

He was struggling against the likes of Patrick Thistle.

He talked sh!t.

And he failed to win 3 games on the bounce.

John Beaton certainly gets around.

 

[Peter Venkman]

Caixinha was given the opportunity to manage Rangers and he jumped at it.

From day one he gave his all, he fully understood the club, our history and traditions.

At times he was the only man prepared to stick up for our club. He defended us, our club and players, he spoke about poor decisions and stood up to scum like Sutton and Brown - whilst our players hid on the park.

The way he was treated by the media was nothing short of a complete and utter disgrace. The man has more brains and class in a single toe nail than what every pundit, commentator, journalist has put together.

He took no shit, he was passionate and tried his damn hardest to be a success. Sadly that wasn’t to be, so he moves on with my best wishes and I hope he makes a successful career in management.

Make sure you come in for Herrera and Pena.

We all move on.

That’s all good. But he couldn’t win three games in a row, with the players he inherited and the players he bought

 

[instructor]

The one thing about Pedro which no-one can deny, he did get us scoring more goals, it just didn't work out for him.

 

[CaptainCourageous]

That’s all good. But he couldn’t win three games in a row, with the players he inherited and the players he bought

He wasn’t good enough and was rightfully sacked.

The fraud jibes are a joke though.

Waghorn was awful yet gave his all and 99.9% wished him well without name calling.

 

[Jacrispy]

Are we sure losing the Aberdeen record wasn’t more down to McInnes being Mourinho Mk II than Pedro’s inabilitity to manage the side?

 

[The Great One]

He wasn’t good enough and was rightfully sacked.

The fraud jibes are a joke though.

Waghorn was awful yet gave his all and 99.9% wished him well without name calling.

We made a profit on Waghorn.

 

[OrangeBufalo]

He left us in fourth place days after being humiliated at Hampden by Motherwell

Wasted 5m on Cardoso, Pena and Herrera...

Thanks Pedro for being a nice guy.

Certainly wouldnt say Cardoso is wasted Money.. He might prove to be wasted money but he has shown signs that he can turn out to be a good player.

Pena is a huge waste of money in my opinion & Herrera has hardly had a chance to prove himself but personally I think they 2 will be away back to Mexico shortly.

 

[Blutoe]

I would hope that we will be getting some money back off the back of this like the Crystal Palace/Sam Alardyce severance deal?

Or am I expecting too much of our Board on this?

He was sacked...why would there be any compensation due?

 

[Peter Venkman]

He wasn’t good enough and was rightfully sacked.

The fraud jibes are a joke though.

Waghorn was awful yet gave his all and 99.9% wished him well without name calling.

Totally agree with that, wasn’t a great manager but hope he does well with his next club

 

[MadridBill]

I would hope that we will be getting some money back off the back of this like the Crystal Palace/Sam Alardyce severance deal?

Or am I expecting too much of our Board on this?

Sam got a massive payoff from Palace.
Whoever employs him before the end of his paid up contract, has to return the money for the remaining time of said contract.

I'd hope we've not paid off Pedro in full just yet and therefor have no need to demand this cash back.

 

[CaptainCourageous]

We made a profit on Waghorn.

That’s okay then, let’s slate Caixinha.

Both gave their all, both were simply not good enough.

 

[The Great One]

That’s okay then, let’s slate Caixinha.

Both gave their all, both were simply not good enough.

If Waghorn cost the club upwards of 5m I would be slaughtering him on here.

 

[jdilla]

Lol.........

 

[Bigbluebear]

Are we sure losing the Aberdeen record wasn’t more down to McInnes being Mourinho Mk II than Pedro’s inabilitity to manage the side?

It was probably more to do with the defence for that game being david bates, aiden wilson and myles beerman. With Jon Toral and some other midden in midfield with waghorn up front.

 

[The Great One]

It was probably more to do with the defence for that game being david bates, aiden wilson and myles beerman. With Jon Toral and some other midden in midfield with waghorn up front.

Midden is a great word.

 

[The Ultimate Warrior]

You do wonder how that interview goes much further than "so Progress explain that to us"

 

[so cal bear]

mexican guy i work with says pedro is still on the list for the club tijuana managers job.

 

[cw3038]

Wish Pedro the best,he tried as others have but fell short,no reason to vilify him.

 

[ibroxjohn76]

Sam got a massive payoff from Palace.
Whoever employs him before the end of his paid up contract, has to return the money for the remaining time of said contract.

I'd hope we've not paid off Pedro in full just yet and therefor have no need to demand this cash back.

Yes and that's my point that other posters don't seem to get. Assuming we have paid him off surely it would make sense to have a clause where we recoup some if they are recruited elsehwhere within the term of the contract? Sacked or not.

 

[Sandbear]

Good luck to him hope he goes on to have great success.

 

[Jdb2005]

Best of luck pedro.

 

[Portadown_Bear]

He banished Miller,Niko and the captain from the home dressing room.

You say that like its a bad thing?

 

[steve1873]

I don 't understand this "Pedro was shit" nonsense. Officials cheated the club out of 3 points against Hivs, another 2 against Hearts for the disallowed offside goal. Celtic arguably got 2 against PT for the last minute stonewall penalty. Another 2 points lost after the penalty fiasco and another wrongful sending off against Kilmarnock.
We could be 3 points clear at the top, and Pedro is a hero.
This next manager will face the same problem, it's not going away any time soon.

Ok lets accept that he isn't a bad manager and he is just an unlucky manager. Do you want an unlucky manager managing Rangers?

 

[ManhattanBlue]

Amusing that some are still clinging onto the notion that he was doing a great job and was the next Guardiola. And if only it wasn't for John Beaton we'd be on the verge of something special!

It's no surprise when some were trying to convince us that Pedro was deliberately experimenting at the end of last season, seeing what players could do as we were humiliated twice by Celtic. All part of a plan, apparently.

 

[Scot_]

All the best to him, at least he wont have our mhedia to deal with!

 

[Haining84]

You say that like its a bad thing?

What you actually think banishing your captain and two senior pros from the dressing room is how proper clubs & managers operate?

 

[muthacupboard]

He was clearly out of his depth at Rangers. People claimed he 'gets it', I'm not sure where that comes from as he seemed to be flailing from the minute he walked through the door. Maybe he'll do better in Mexico where it's a completely different football culture but he simply didn't fit as Rangers manager.

The Progres humiliation was unforgivable. The 4th best team from a country with a population of 500,000 and no football heritage to speak of. He was never coming back from that.

Nice guy and all that but I'm glad to see the back of him.

 

[Portadown_Bear]

What you actually think banishing your captain and two senior pros from the dressing room is how proper clubs & managers operate?

All top managers will get trouble makers who question their authority out of the club. See how SAF treated Keane and Stam.

I really hoped Pedro would get through to January if only to rid the club of Kenny and his pals.

 

[bnigmother]

No point in going over how good or not Pedro is. He’s gone.
What I do think is that he has a fantastic agent.
Gets 10k pw for 7 months. Then gets a £500 k pay off and three weeks later a new job !!!

 

[so cal bear]

He was clearly out of his depth at Rangers. People claimed he 'gets it', I'm not sure where that comes from as he seemed to be flailing from the minute he walked through the door. Maybe he'll do better in Mexico where it's a completely different football culture but he simply didn't fit as Rangers manager.

The Progres humiliation was unforgivable. The 4th best team from a country with a population of 500,000 and no football heritage to speak of. He was never coming back from that.

Nice guy and all that but I'm glad to see the back of him.

agreed, progres was one of the lowest moments for me as a rangers fan. went from the excitement of playing back in europe to the worst result in club history in one week.

 

[Cumbernauld gers]

It' unbelievable we have fans wishing this guy luck.

 

[Portadown_Bear]

It' unbelievable we have fans wishing this guy luck.

Why? He certainly improved us.

Anyone who cant see that should take up netball.

 

[Crouchy]

It' unbelievable we have fans wishing this guy luck.

Not sure why we wouldn’t?

He’s never come out and bad mouthed Rangers?

He did his best. It wasn’t enough. He applied, he was selected, he gave his all. We’re in a better position than we were 12 months ago.

It didn’t work out, but certainly no ill feeling.

 

[jdilla]

You do wonder how that interview goes much further than "so Progress explain that to us"

"On the desk you will find two glasses of water; can you use them to explain your tactical vision for us, Pedro?"

 

[jdilla]

Has anyone seen how the managers in LIGA MX dress, btw? It's proper mental - these are actual managers in the league

 

[grascots]

Good luck to him. He tried his best and it just wasn't good enough.

 

[charlie_snowball]

I had a Cruz Azul top years ago that I bought in Mexico. It was an absolute belter. It was reversible, white on one side and royal blue on the other.

 

[Quijibo]

It's no surprise when some were trying to convince us that Pedro was deliberately experimenting at the end of last season, seeing what players could do as we were humiliated twice by Celtic. All part of a plan, apparently.

Unfortunately it was a "Cunning Plan" baldrick style.