Northampton_Loyalist
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A stupid question.I asked a question!! what's your problem?
A stupid question.I asked a question!! what's your problem?
So you would be happy with their name just being tarnished? That’ll come in due course. I personally want the bastards shut down.
We should all be grateful that justice had been done? Grateful? To a pathetic justice system that hands out pathetic sentences?
This is abuse on an industrial scale with many individuals knowing exactly what went on. That club should be closed down.
If not closed down then seriously punished as a football club financially and that still won’t be enough for the victims.
Dornan is unqualified intellectually to be a community spokesperson, I think he has demonstrated this to anyone looking in.I said similar last year when Dornan was coming out with his 'tax evasion is on a par with child sexual abuse' bullshit, skorn.
We were hung out to dry on the premise that our ‘tax evasion‘ allowed us to bring in players we couldn’t otherwise afford, giving us an unfair sporting advantage.
If successive Celtic FC directors and managers hadn’t actively covered up decades of child sexual abuse, how many of the players they’d signed to help them win trophies since at least the start of the 80s (including reaching a European final and getting millions of pounds of Champions League money), would have wanted to be associated with them?
So-called unfair sporting advantage through ‘tax evasion’ generated sanctions that nearly destroyed our club. How much more serious and heinous is unfair sporting advantage gained through covering up sexual attacks on children?
So that makes you more staunch than me then right?
I'll say this to you without hesitation. I've met countless like minded bears in my time and I've yet to meet anybody with a stronger "dislike" of cfc than myself. I don't say that to impress it's just an honest admision, not something I'm particularly proud or ashamed of. We are agreed on one thing , I'd have them closed down in a heartbeat also but for the corrupt and dishonest way they've conducted business since their inception. In my humble opinion though the other issue because of the very sensitive nature of the subject matter is separate. All I'm saying is the human element should be the PRIMARY CONCERN of any right minded individual.
No offence mate, because I think all bears should stick together, but that primary concern you mention, which I 100% agree on, is what BlueNose94 has actually been working on and every single day for years now.
He’s been walking that walk rather than talking about it.
Devils Advocate.
How many players such as Larson would not have signed for them in this period, had they known their history before they signed.
An unanswerable question, but worth putting.
Cover up, players sign in ignorance, success on the pitch due to the cover up.
They may have gained an advantage due to a child abuse cover up.
The question needs to be asked, although we already know the answer.
You're right and I appreciate that fully. If the guy has done as you say then he has my utmost respect. We all want the same outcome and I apologise if I've come across the wrong way
If that was the case the photo would be or Hamden, and the headline certainly would not be as hard hitting. I have no doubt other instances on Scottish football will be mentioned and they should! But there is no doubt to me by his headlines that Thomson is going after the scum here.Given his previous I would expect Tompson to make this about abuse in Scottish football and bring all clubs into it. It is unlikely to focus overly on the club with the major problem. Hope I am wrong but the guy cannot be trusted.
Ok mateSo that makes you more staunch than me then right?
I'll say this to you without hesitation. I've met countless like minded bears in my time and I've yet to meet anybody with a stronger "dislike" of cfc than myself. I don't say that to impress it's just an honest admision, not something I'm particularly proud or ashamed of. We are agreed on one thing , I'd have them closed down in a heartbeat also but for the corrupt and dishonest way they've conducted business since their inception. In my humble opinion though the other issue because of the very sensitive nature of the subject matter is separate. All I'm saying is the human element should be the PRIMARY CONCERN of any right minded individual.
Aw well. Now that I’ve read that I’ll round the troops up and throw in the towel. I’ll speak to the victims today and say sorry folks we’re wasting our time here as Celtic will come out of this smelling of roses.
I bet they fuckin don’t. Excuse the language but posts like this helps nobody. Especially the victims that read them.
Nah, he's just tweeting a picture of the piggery condemning them for their silence over the paedophile ring.Well! Who'da thunk it?
Celtc FC's chief choirboy during Rangers' trials and
tribulations brings out a dossier on his favourite club.
I wonder if he's done it with the suffering of the many
victims at the fore and will be giving the perpetrators
pelters fairly and squarely ...
Nah! Don't think so.
You GUARANTEE that will you,
well I will GUARANTEE you need to take your head out of your erse
Ffs what chance you got
I’m not stupid. Far from that. I’ll say it again. We have every piece of correspondence with nearly every SNP MSP. Each one hiding behind the SFA inquiry except for one.No one said about throwing in the towel.
Why hasn't the SNP brought it up in Holyrood then??
We all know exactly why.
They are terrified of Alienating themselves from the Papist vote. That's why they'll never bring the subject up.
You need to be blind or stupid to think otherwise.
I’m with this all the way victims must be compensated and have some sort of closure but believe me I want this dirty vile disgusting organisation and community of society brought to their knees!! You cannot get any lower than protecting paedophiles never mind for best part of 4/5 decades!So you would be happy with their name just being tarnished? That’ll come in due course. I personally want the bastards shut down.
We should all be grateful that justice had been done? Grateful? To a pathetic justice system that hands out pathetic sentences?
This is abuse on an industrial scale with many individuals knowing exactly what went on. That club should be closed down.
If not closed down then seriously punished as a football club financially and that still won’t be enough for the victims.
Looking forward to whatever the program reveals.If I'm honest though,I still have a niggling feeling that they will try to trump it with some kind of injunction.Are we beyond that now?or is it a case of just having to wait and see.Sorry to be negative, but with these kind of people you have to try and cover all bases.
Is the programme still to go out on Wednesday ?
These guys are actively trying to right this wrong , and you are saying ach they will get away with it anyway , actions and all that , as they say .My head isn't anywhere near my arse thanks very much.
You honestly think Salmond will be found guilty and jailed or Celtic will not somehow get away with their crimes??
I hope I'm sincerely wrong but c'mon to fck.
They control everything. We've slept walked through 40 years allowing them to do so.
If that was the case the photo would be or Hamden, and the headline certainly would not be as hard hitting. I have no doubt other instances on Scottish football will be mentioned and they should! But there is no doubt to me by his headlines that Thomson is going after the scum here.
To flip the coin, if I was an active member of the Church of Scotland, and countless numbers of ministers had been outed/convicted of child abuse, I think I'd be severing ties with the church. Every religion has had it. Just the Catholic church has ravaged 5 continents with it.Indoctrinated from young age into believing that a priest can forgive sin by throwing a few quid into a box. Then allowed by same priest to go out the door of the chapel to commit the exact same sin but in many cases crime including murder (many a provo confessed to their priest).
A worldwide epidemic working 24/7/365 that should be closed down without delay.
Corona virus doesn’t even come close.
what! asking you what your problem is, is a stupid question!A stupid question.
Well said mate. It gets me down too and I'm not one of the guys who's doing all to help.i see the negative normans are out in force again,for christ sake give a rest will yous, if you have nothing positive to offer then please just stay out,honestly im really getting pissed off big time now with the constant drip of negativity,god knows how the guys spending hours every single day fighting for justice are feeling,a good number on here really need to have a right good look at themselves, f@cking sickening seeing post after post with this defeatist negativity ,get off your knees ffs and throw yourselves 100% behind the guys on here,
I've been following you guys from the beginning, wishing I could do more to help. The amount of time and passion you have put into this to ensure justice for the victims of child abuse at CFC is beyond compare. Forget any negativity on here, keep going mate, the majority are behind you all the way .I’m not stupid. Far from that. I’ll say it again. We have every piece of correspondence with nearly every SNP MSP. Each one hiding behind the SFA inquiry except for one.
Soon they will not be able to use that excuse. I agree that the Irish republican sympathiser vote is important to them and they make no secret of sharing a platform with Sinn Fein/IRA.
Some of the replies have been disgusting. Even accusing one of us of bigotry when there was no mention of religion. All we gave them was facts.
We managed to get an MSP to bring up a parliamentary question only to be shot down by the under qualified justice secretary.
We have a list of MSP’s who do support a motion also.
So basically the answer to your question is that the SNP are hiding behind the SFA inquiry. We have the correspondence to say so.
From a personal point of view... I don’t trust the Scottish government in appointing the correct person to head a full independent inquiry. That’s why we fought hard to prove cross border links to abuse. I’d rather Westminster took control of it and we hope that to be the case.
I’ll be honest with you. A few times I’ve thought Fck it and just come off the forum. All we are trying to do is help the people that have been affected. But then you get a few bears that you can see are just out for point scoring.Well said mate. It gets me down too and I'm not one of the guys who's doing all to help.
No one said about throwing in the towel.
Why hasn't the SNP brought it up in Holyrood then??
We all know exactly why.
They are terrified of Alienating themselves from the Papist vote. That's why they'll never bring the subject up.
You need to be blind or stupid to think otherwise.
To him Rangers, or for that matter Celtic are irrelevant. Thomson cares about Thomson only. If he sees an opportunity to be front and centre of unraveling a major scandal he will go for the jugular. I said in an earlier post on here he would throw his gran under a bus if it bettered his career. Yes some on here still think he will go soft on them because he hates us?I don’t trust Alex Thomson one little bit, he hates us does he not, so can’t see him going for their jugular so to speak, but will just have to wait and see.
Can’t see it on the Sky planner. Would be happy to know the name of the program, the channel and date/time. Or is it just a Channel 4 News Special?Is the programme still to go out on Wednesday ?
Part of C4 newsCan’t see it on the Sky planner. Would be happy to know the name of the program, the channel and date/time. Or is it just a Channel 4 News Special?
Brilliant, cheers. Set to record!Part of C4 news
I was a journalist for over three decades and this stinks to high heaven for me.
I really hope my senses are wrong for the sake of those victims who have cooperated with C4.
Thompson is clearly a Celtic fan with connections given his past reporting.
Certainly I recall that some senior C4 figures are also Celtic fans.
I fully expect Celtic to have had copious input into this ‘expose’ and that is why they are not screaming to the usual suspects.
My senses say that if they had not cooperated and had their say, then they would already be stories all over the Scottish press saying that they have been unfairly treated.
I also have no doubt they would have issued injunctions and leaked the details to their friends in the Scottish media.
However, it is possible that they know they can’t do anything about it and are just waiting for the smelly stuff to hit the fan.
He's a journalist and he could expose the biggest paedophile ring in world sport. If investigated properly he'll expose corruption within all those in authority who could have and should have done something about this scandal but instead they chose to turn a blind eye thus helping in keeping this scandal covered up. I think that when victims of these monsters see someone expose the horrific truth of this it will actually give others the strength to come forward. This has went on for decades and will be bigger than anyone of us could imagine. As for posters that think this will be damage limitation I really don't believe you can limit damage on a cover up for the abuse of innocent children.To him Rangers, or for that matter Celtic are irrelevant. Thomson cares about Thomson only. If he sees an opportunity to be front and centre of unraveling a major scandal he will go for the jugular. I said in an earlier post on here he would throw his gran under a bus if it bettered his career. Yes some on here still think he will go soft on them because he hates us?
Brilliant post! Cap doffedI don't care who or what clubs are implicated, the priority should be justice for all victims.
If such a thing happened at Rangers, I'd want anyone involved brought to justice and the club doing all it can for the victims.
Using "Scottish football" and 'Paedophile rings" in a sentence is misleading though. Whilst most clubs seem to have had disgusting people in their employ at one point or another in their history, only one club had a number of them convicted who were acting in cohorts at the same time. To deny that fact or to dismiss it as point scoring is to dismiss that the perpetrators who had a hand in it should be brought to justice.
Interesting. Never have believed in organized religion. Too many wars fought over who has the right God, too many cases of mass hypnosis and ignorance.That's the presbyterian view too - as soon as you're born you're a sinner.
I'm sure they wouldn't want their brand to be referred to as Paedo 3 Stripe.Adidas are aware mate.
I never said I was a journalist for C4A London based TV company’s senior ‘figure’ are celtic fans? Really? Who would that be then? No harm in naming them on here. And you were a journalist with CH4 when these senior ‘figures’ told you they were fans of celtic?
Right you are.
I did not work in the UK and I left over a decade ago.who for?
where was your expose?
There's way too many posts to read through to know this without reading through the entirely of them but BN has consistently said just what you claim; that the victims and justice for them is the primary concern. Revealing the scum that did these vile acts and enabled them for so long would be an obvious part of that justice.You're right and I appreciate that fully. If the guy has done as you say then he has my utmost respect. We all want the same outcome and I apologise if I've come across the wrong way
There's way too many posts to read through to know this without reading through the entirely of them but BN has consistently said just what you claim; that the victims and justice for them is the primary concern. Revealing the scum that did these vile acts and enabled them for so long would be an obvious part of that justice.
BN is just responding to the more specific argument of what should happen after that primary objective is achieved.
I don't care who or what clubs are implicated, the priority should be justice for all victims.
If such a thing happened at Rangers, I'd want anyone involved brought to justice and the club doing all it can for the victims.
Using "Scottish football" and 'Paedophile rings" in a sentence is misleading though. Whilst most clubs seem to have had disgusting people in their employ at one point or another in their history, only one club had a number of them convicted who were acting in cohorts at the same time. To deny that fact or to dismiss it as point scoring is to dismiss that the perpetrators who had a hand in it should be brought to justice.
That reads like a planted deflection story tbh. I think somebody’s been in touch with Stinson.He can’t be that good as he’s missed quite a few at his beloved club... Maybe we should offer him some assistance?
Paedo hunter blasts Rangers fans' 'use of child abuse to attack' over football
PAEDO hunter Stinson Hunter has blasted Rangers fans over “using a child’s abuse as a way to attack” other supporters. The vigilante, who has over 546,000 followers on Facebook, l…www.thescottishsun.co.uk
Keep up the good fight, the victims deserve it.I’m not stupid. Far from that. I’ll say it again. We have every piece of correspondence with nearly every SNP MSP. Each one hiding behind the SFA inquiry except for one.
Soon they will not be able to use that excuse. I agree that the Irish republican sympathiser vote is important to them and they make no secret of sharing a platform with Sinn Fein/IRA.
Some of the replies have been disgusting. Even accusing one of us of bigotry when there was no mention of religion. All we gave them was facts.
We managed to get an MSP to bring up a parliamentary question only to be shot down by the under qualified justice secretary.
We have a list of MSP’s who do support a motion also.
So basically the answer to your question is that the SNP are hiding behind the SFA inquiry. We have the correspondence to say so.
From a personal point of view... I don’t trust the Scottish government in appointing the correct person to head a full independent inquiry. That’s why we fought hard to prove cross border links to abuse. I’d rather Westminster took control of it and we hope that to be the case.
Absolutely, GY.John, you & I both know it wasn’t ‘tax evasion’ mate. Tax evasion is illegal.
Tax Avoidance is legal, and our mechanism we used was a tax avoidance mechanism.
Absolutely, GY.
What that mob choose to ignore is that tax avoidance is legal - child sexual abuse is not. But they don’t let that get in the way of making a spurious - and shameful - false equivalence between the two.
Let’s see what the deniers make of the Channel 4 revelations to come this week, and how they spin that information.