Club Statement

Yosser said:
So we have an exclusive deal with Castore but they only have an online business so they then strike deals with retail outlets to sell our stuff face to face.
On the level it makes sense but I wish SD weren't one of the retail outlets. Will be seriously pissed off if they are the main one.
The statement doesn't actually answer all.
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Hopefully the top will be available in all sports retailers but I personally would buy direct either on line or at the stadium.
 
Trueblueal said:
Eskbank Loyal on RM says we didn't realise SD would be able to sell in-store from Aug 1st. The Rangers store wasn't going to ready until 15th and we are now scrabbling around to get it opened on the 1st. This was the delay. We got caught out
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Rangers simply cannot not be selling that kit on 1st August and fat Ashley has his stores full of it.
 
Papatango said:
Let’s have a look at the bigger picture here.

By close of business today we will have shifted £3,000,000 in strips.

Let that sink in troops.

Of that £3,000,000 the fat slug earned nothing.
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Any idea? How much of that figure will go to the club.
 
The shirts being sold in these other retailers round UK, including the fat slugs shops, actually allows people who know nothing about the Rangers / SD history to buy our kit.
Some kids around England who like our shirt or like Stevie G will get the kit bought for them by their parents and we benefit.
All the Bears in the know just buy off Rangers/Castore.
Nothing is perfect, but we need to grow.
 
Tagsbear said:
Yeah we should cancel the deal with Castore and sell completely orange strips through Nathan9719972 enterprises.
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Eh we should sell independently and refuse to allow any other retailers to sell them, Orange kits always go down a treat and it’s something we need to utilise more
 
mountloyal said:
The club refer to having an exclusive deal with Castore. This is not true if Castore have done a deal with SD.
Yes buy direct where possible.. Still does not negate the fact that SD will be given thousands of our kit to flog and profit from our support.
None of us expected or wanted this. I get the feeling the club knew fine well that this is something that annoys the support
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Perfectly stated
 
klosrfc said:
Due to the statement confirming sports direct and castore working together, even after castore had the cheek to previously laugh off any involvement with SD, I have tonight taken the tough decision to cancel my order. This was not an easy choice but one I fell is a must
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And Mike Ashley achieves exactly what he set out to this evening, well done.
 
Nathan9719972 said:
Eh we should sell independently and refuse to allow any other retailers to sell them, Orange kits always go down a treat and it’s something we need to utilise more
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How exactly would we sell kit independently?

Do you we set up an independent website to sell the kit which would then drive people away from purchasing them through the Castore site?

I can’t see Castore being overly pleased with that.

Alternatively, we set up independent retail outlets (stores) to sell the kit which would be nowhere near sustainable and would again annoy our manufacturing partners.

You’re living in a total fantasy land.
 
Nathan9719972 said:
Eh we should sell independently and refuse to allow any other retailers to sell them, Orange kits always go down a treat and it’s something we need to utilise more
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Doesn’t matter if they bring a pink top out, it’ll sell.
 
WATP87 said:
Castore have actively chosen to deal with SD. Despite all the information out there and one of their owners in his interview being pressed on SD there is still an agreement.

Given we have sold c 50k shirts online today, there wasn't a need for Castore to get in to any deal at all with SD given they're an online platform and will soon have their own shops.

After all that's happened and the many false dawns before, and despite the statements and orange fonts; I'm still sceptical. Hopefully I'm proven wrong.
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Worng.

SD have chose to deal with Castore and, just like any other retailer who want to sell our gear, they will pay a wholesale price.

They are now customers and we make money from every shirt they buy, regardless of sale or not.
 
There is no drama, trauma, call it what you like, at all here. We have absolutely NO link or dealing with the fat slug and I trust our board 100% on this. Today was brilliant, home kit launch, brilliant video which made me very emotional (maybe my age, early 50's) and unbelievable sales...

Having witnessed all of this, some smart arse from sports direct's marketing team decided to lob a grenade which was very selectively worded to cause instant panic and confusion and it worked. We have been trolled big time by these insufferable b@stards BUT THAT IS ALL. (today)

People have accused Castore and the club of vastly underestimating our reaction but I don't think they have. They knew full well what would happen and in my opinion this information was withheld to prevent massive negativity and uproar... which has happened anyway.

We have a contract with Castore but obviously we can't decide for them which retailers can and cannot sell our kits. As I read elsewhere, Castore, as an up and coming company and new to football kits, probably had no choice but to use sports direct with it being the biggest sports gear outlet in the UK. Don't get me wrong it's as annoying as F&^* that the slug gets to sell our gear but Castore obviously see it as a necessary evil that couldn't be avoided.

We just have to keep reminding ourselves that no matter what outlet sells the kits the money that comes to the club is the same across the board.

As I said it's so annoying that the jumble sale specialist, fat sleekit b@stard gets to sell them but just stay clear of them. Let's make sure he makes buttons from this and order from club website, new retail store and Castore... WATP.
 
Nathan9719972 said:
If im correct in what I’m saying, we receive a £3m upfront payment before any kits sold, there was talk that if we sold as much as our record which was 200,000kits we would make £9m, I would hazard a guess at having made in the region of £4-5m(inc £3m initial payment)
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Cheers mate.
 
themightyi said:
How exactly would we sell kit independently?

Do you we set up an independent website to sell the kit which would then drive people away from purchasing them through the Castore site?

I can’t see Castore being overly pleased with that.

Alternatively, we set up independent retail outlets (stores) to sell the kit which would be nowhere near sustainable and would again annoy our manufacturing partners.

You’re living in a total fantasy land.
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If's often the case in these types of threads.

We won't be the only sports club Castore are working with, so they'll need sports outlets to sell their strips and merchandise. It makes little impact on us.

I think people have to remember, we have a shirt deal with Castore. We don't dictate their business.

Buy at appropriate outlets. It's simple.
 
klosrfc said:
Due to the statement confirming sports direct and castore working together, even after castore had the cheek to previously laugh off any involvement with SD, I have tonight taken the tough decision to cancel my order. This was not an easy choice but one I fell is a must
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What a steaming pile of shite. You are denying the club money (even though you never pre ordered from SD). Good for you.
 
klosrfc said:
Due to the statement confirming sports direct and castore working together, even after castore had the cheek to previously laugh off any involvement with SD, I have tonight taken the tough decision to cancel my order. This was not an easy choice but one I fell is a must
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They denied Ashley was an investor. He’s not.

You thought, this morning, that you were able to buy a strip for the first time in years without that scum bag getting a cut. You were right.

SD have then put out a post claiming exclusivity. The club have effectively stated that’s a lie.

You’ve just made the wrong final decision here mate. In fact, I’m sorry to say you’re doing exactly what SD and their friends, the abusers, want you to do.
 
JMCK said:
Do you really; after what the fans of this club have been through over the last eight years?
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We all know what the clubs went through, but we cant dwell on it.

This place went mental without even getting clarification. Even after that they're still some who are not happy.

We cant keep looking back on what has happened before, it is what it is and can never be changed. A particularly nasty part of our history, but once again tonight everyone, not for the first time have piled into the people running the club.

What happened with rangers was never going to he a quick fix and as far as I can see the men running the club now are getting us there.

I always step back and take a deep breath with Rangers football club news. First and foremost they are a football team, let's leave the difficult road back and the business to the men in charge, who as far as I'm concerned are doing a good job.

It could all have been worse, a lot worse. Think about that, before we go off on one.
 
Our deal is with Castore, so I very much doubt we can then dictate to them, any more than we could dictate to Nike, Adidas or anyone else, which outlets they want to use to maximise sales. We are not an exclusive client after all. They have other ranges of sports merchandise and are also looking to get involved with other clubs. What we can do, is choose where we buy our merchandise from. If we don't buy from Sports Direct, the fat man gets nothing from us. Zilch. SD have probably been monitoring sales throughout the day and sickened at what they're missing out on, decided to lob a grenade in to cause......well, exactly what it caused. Buy direct from the club, Castore, or whatever other outlets are available and Sports Direct becomes an irrelevance.
 
klosrfc said:
Due to the statement confirming sports direct and castore working together, even after castore had the cheek to previously laugh off any involvement with SD, I have tonight taken the tough decision to cancel my order. This was not an easy choice but one I fell is a must
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I get that it’s sports direct and all but cancelling your order takes money away from the club, money that sports direct do not get a penny of.
 
UistGer said:
Fine line between that and offering the rest of your face to the spiv that’s already cut off your nose.
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Theres not really - you're not buying kits because Mike Ashley bought some. It's fucking mental.
 
Surely whoever agreed and signed the contract with Castore should have anticipated this. Where exactly did they expect gear to be sold if not online.
Wouldn't have taken much to write into the contract re no dealings with SD.
The board must have known about this before today but stayed stum.
 
If Castore supply the fat rat and his jumble sale at the going rate i'll suffer it. I'll have ordered direct for the kids, i won't step a foot in his stores but if wee get the standard commission on sales it'll be a dam site better than we've had this last few years.

A lot of the older supporters aren't on F F. or social media for that matter and are none the wiser to the situation with S.D.
 
MTP said:
Theres not really - you're not buying kits because Mike Ashley bought some. It's fucking mental.
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To be honest I didn’t read the original post properly and was being flippant. I would rather not sell in any shops and go online only though if the only alternate was to give ashley exclusivity in his shops.

That’s my personal view living in Glasgow though, maybe someone living elsewhere who’s only option is to nip to sports direct would think otherwise.
 
I’d be stunned if Rangers knew Castore had allowed Sport Direct use of that Promo video.

That has Rangers employees in it being used as an advertising tool for them.
 
Let the slugs shelves pile up with our gear that we get a guaranteed percentage on every item. No one buys it.
Who loses ? Mr Slug.
 
This place is unbelievable. MA has nothing to do with Castore, he's bought an order off them that's all.
If he saw the reaction on here which is what he wants, even if we got a supplier who wouldn't deal with him then that fat mess would be on their website buying our kits at full price just so he could put them in his shop.
 
Yosser said:
Surely whoever agreed and signed the contract with Castore should have anticipated this. Where exactly did they expect gear to be sold if not online.
Wouldn't have taken much to write into the contract re no dealings with SD.
The board must have known about this before today but stayed stum.
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Dont you think that maybe sd could possibly put out an injunction on rangers if they try to put a ban on them, with more money lost. I dont know and I suggest neither does anybody else on here.

Move on ffs, or we'll just be stuck in a time warp trying to tell the board what they can and cant do. Not everything that happens has dark forces at work and all I see here, is people making a ben nevis out of a mole hill.
 
Doesn’t matter whether SD sells them as long as we get our royalty for them. I personally bought mine directly from Castore this morning and most supporters will have done same It’s all about maximising the income into the club which ultimately benefits Rangers not SD. Time to support the club and get us back to where we belong.
 
Madmax said:
Doesn’t matter whether SD sells them as long as we get our royalty for them. I personally bought mine directly from Castore this morning and most supporters will have done same It’s all about maximising the income into the club which ultimately benefits Rangers not SD. Time to support the club and get us back to where we belong.
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SD buy strips, Rangers make money.
Fans buy strips from Rangers or Castore, SD don't make money.

It's pretty easy really, I just hope our fans stay away from fatboys jumble sales.
 
anyone worried about SD, simples, just buy it direct from castore, and anyone still pissed of with castore, look at it from their point of view, they've just made money from SD, by selling them a bulk order, plus no football club dictates to their kit suppliers who they can and cannot sell to, as that would be counter productive for a company finding their feet in the team strips eviroment, the aim here is to sell the tops as fast and as many as possible, for castore to burn bridges with any high street retailer at the start of their journey would be suicide to their ambitions in a busniess sense
 
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DaveL said:
This place is unbelievable. MA has nothing to do with Castore, he's bought an order off them that's all.
If he saw the reaction on here which is what he wants, even if we got a supplier who wouldn't deal with him then that fat mess would be on their website buying our kits at full price just so he could put them in his shop.
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To be fair it was the claim SD had it “exclusively” that set most people off.
 
cooperman said:
anyone worried about SD, simples, just buy it direct from castore, and anyone still pissed of with castore, look at it from their point of view, they've just made money from SD, by selling them a bulk order, plus no football club dictates to their kit suppliers who they can and cannot sell to, as that would be counter productive for a company finding their feet in the team strips eviroment, the aim here is to sell the tops as fast and as many as possible, for castore to burn bridges with any high street retailer at the start of their journey would be suicide to their ambitions in a
busniess sense

sense
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It’s not quite so simple though mate when Castore is already sold out of the larger sizes. People are faced with a wait or buy where they can. If SD are the only High street retailer selling them a lot will go there giving the fat man a cut.
 
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