Hearts & Partick Thistle vs SPFL Starts Today.

[JayDee]

Latest from the media: 'SFA to appoint an arbitration panel to deal with Hearts and Thistle challenge'.

 

[Thasunke Witko]

I take this is not good news

 

[davmcc]

Does anybody.

And I mean anybody.

Have a clue what is happening ?

Independent SFA investigation is the next step but Hearts can still appeal the outcome through a court if they're not happy with the result.

 

[randomhero]

I'm still none the wiser. Is it arbitration or court?

Arbitration, now been confirmed

 

[bearspakora]

According to the rags this morning, Doncaster will be subject to Court cross-examination if the Judge keeps it in Court.

 

[Arkanoid]

If its not been dismissed our aims are very much game on. Failure at the arbitration to get an indepent inquiry over the 'lost' vote and subsequent communications and only 1 option offered to clubs for money should be an open goal of it goes to court. I hope Hearts fans are enraged enough to keep the pressure on Budge to go all the way. Last thing we need is subservient apathy

 

[BroomloanWATP]

Does anybody.

And I mean anybody.

Have a clue what is happening ?

SFA to adjudicate action. Case paused in the meantime.
Competing motion by Dundee Hibs etc whose promotions are at risk dismissed.
Follow Follow users ordered to double their medication intake.

 

[NorthSideBlue]

Does anybody.

And I mean anybody.

Have a clue what is happening ?

Arbitration by the SFA . A kangaroo court .

 

[Killer Bob]

Surely any of the SFA people involved will need to have zero overlap with SPFL. Is that possible?

 

[Batigol]

Provided we get a truly independent panel is this essentially the independent investigation that we were asking for or is it going to be very narrowly focused on the relegation of Hearts/Thistle/Stranraer?

 

[jweebear]

The petition to dismiss the case was refused, therefore Hearts and PT case is only delayed, till after arbitration.

 

[bigy]

Pie and Bovril -


Second ruling of the court is that the dispute should be settled via an arbitration tribunal.

The tribunal will be overseen by an independent judge.

 

[djcamer]

SFA to adjudicate action. Case paused in the meantime.
Competing motion by Dundee Hibs etc whose promotions are at risk dismissed.
Follow Follow users ordered to double their medication intake.

This will be why mulraney was rushed through, the scum are one step ahead.

 

[Ke55y]

Independent SFA investigation is the next step but Hearts can still appeal the outcome through a court if they're not happy with the result.

Can hearts and thistle not ask the judge for independent members appointed by the court to deal with it because we know the outcome it will be lieswells puppets who will be named within the hour

 

[Arkanoid]

Which probably means arbitration is not final for Hearts and Partick Thistle and come back to the court, that's a vital ruling imo.

This is the crux of the matter for me. Court saying make the arbitration transparent, make it fair otherwise court will reconvene and you will get your arses spanked. The judge not dismissing it is huge and can still lead to a successful expulsion of the cabal

 

[DougieJones]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1279044170217410560

‘Peter, Peter we need a QC‘. Sure the Paedofather already has one on speed dial. Let’s hope it’s a court appointed tribunal.

 

[last minute signing]

Arbitration by the SFA . A kangaroo court .

The SFA will not arbitrate the issue themselves. They will employ an “independent” third party.

 

[Laudrup1]

I can't see how arbitration settles the matter between Dundee Utd, Hearts and Thistle.

Surely nothing can resolve matters for the first two of those and it'll eventually go back to court?

 

[BroomloanWATP]

Provided we get a truly independent panel is this essentially the independent investigation that we were asking for or is it going to be very narrowly focused on the relegation of Hearts/Thistle/Stranraer?

Panel to consist of Neil Lennon, Peter Lawell, Kim Jong Un, Billy Dodds (in the capacity of "pet hun") and to be chaired by the spirit of Brother Walfrid.

 

[Carlton The Bear]

Provided we get a truly independent panel is this essentially the independent investigation that we were asking for or is it going to be very narrowly focused on the relegation of Hearts/Thistle/Stranraer?

It was the effect of the Dundee re-vote that relegated them so I would like to imagine, given it’s been discussed in court, to be within scope.

 

[chilebear]

So the SFA get to choose who marks their homework?

 

[Renfrew@UKGB&NI]

So is it back to Liewell and the CFA to do their normal one sided green eyed stuff?.

It's back to the daily record for a source who told them all the other clubs are furious.

 

[NorthSideBlue]

The SFA will not arbitrate the issue themselves. They will employ an “independent” third party.

Forgive me for laughing at the prospect of it being genuinely “ independent “ .

 

[Batigol]

How quickly can a panel be convened, hear evidence and make a judgement. This is surely going to have an effect on the start of the season?

 

[skaillbear]

arbitration with recovery of evidence documents

 

[JD1872]

He is now saying that all the documentation needs to be made available to the tribunal panel. Although overall it is not the news we wanted I don’t think spfl will get away with botching the hearing because it will end up back in court if not done fairly.

I also think Hearts get input on who is selected in the tribunal panel

 

[The Crimson King]

Arbitration by the SFA . A kangaroo court .

We'll see. From what I've read the arbitration panel has to be made up of former judges, rather than just the usual Lawell, Mulraney and whatever other toady they can scrounge up. Whether that translates into a fair hearing is another thing, but it's mildly annoying in that Doncaster won't be grilled in open court.

 

[jaws73]

This actually sounds like an independent investigation is going to go down. The QC appointed to arbitrate by the SFA must be independent. This is what we pushed for not so long ago.

Reading through the precis of the case each day it seems the judges in the arbitration can call for witnesses and documentation.

My concern about SFA Arbitration is that it won't be in public - all the SPFL shennigans that may be exposed during the course of the arbitration won't be made public.

On the plus side, Hearts/Partick case was not dismissed as wished by Dundee Utd/Raith Rovers/Cove (the judge clearly thinks there is a case to be heard). They can of course go back to the courts if they feel the SFA Arbitration conclusion is unsatisfactory.

 

[dh1963]

I'll regret asking a question on this total clusterfùck of a thread, but can Hearts and Thistle bring the case back to court if they refuse to accept the SFA decision?

 

[skaillbear]

will an interdict be coming now

 

[bearspakora]

Surely any of the SFA people involved will need to have zero overlap with SPFL. Is that possible?

Both the corrupt SFA and SPFL co-signed a letter to UEFA lying to them that Scottish clubs wanted the League to end, despite no vote ever taking place. Hearts are goosed expecting justice from the SFA. Corrupt to the core. Step forward the now notorious Judge Lord Carloway as an " honest broker ".

 

[chilebear]

Case to be heard 2022?

 

[Carlton The Bear]

I'll regret asking a question on this total clusterfùck of a thread, but can Hearts and Thistle bring the case back to court if they refuse to accept the SFA decision?

Yes
And I’m sober and have taken no medication

 

[bigy]

Third ruling of the court is to uphold the request by Hearts and Partick Thistle to for "recovery of documents".

 

[Otto Bear]

Only problem is that what the SFA think of as independent, and someone actually independent, are two different things entirely.

It must be a QC with at least 10 years experience.

 

[DejaVoodoo]

So try fair arbitration and if its not back to court.

 

[Stupots]

Lol SFA and independent in the same sentence.

Arbitration to be led by a Rob Mckenzee

 

[nemessis]

SFA to appoint an arbitration panel to deal with hearts/Thistle case. C*nts.

Wow that will be impartial then won't it, ffsake what a farce, will the corrupt pricks get allowed to appoint people favourable to them and their cronies appointed to keep the junta's dodgy dealings hidden.

 

[BroomloanWATP]

will an interdict be coming now

I would have thought that if an interim interdict was to be sought then it would have been craved at the hearing today.

 

[bigy]

4th official


It’s going to Arbitration but the Judge rejected the notion that the panel list handed by SFA.

The Judge said that it must be an advocate or member of the judicial panel with 10 years experience as the chair.

 

[StirlingBear]

This will end up back in court. An utter waste of time.

 

[Batigol]

will an interdict be coming now

Thats my fear. Season can't really start until the issue has been addressed and it's not likely to be quick.

Will the mere threat of an interdict be enough to force through reconstruction?

 

[Northampton Lodger]

they can’t keep escaping justice.

 

[JD1872]

will an interdict be coming now

No they will need to go through the arbitration process first which is supposed to happen before the league starts, if they lose that then that might be the approach

 

[GioVanBee]

I thought each side of the dispute gets to choose an appointee then they two appoint the third

 

[Captain Black]

This will be why mulraney was rushed through, the scum are one step ahead.

And let everyone understand this,but in the name of fairness he will remove himself in the name of fairness and sporting integrity.

 

[Renfrew@UKGB&NI]

Hearts and thistle can go back to court, so it's not over at all.

 

[fbshd]

Latest from the media: 'SFA to appoint an arbitration panel to deal with Hearts and Thistle challenge'.

Maybe Anne Budge will head it up?

FBS

 

[HappyKillmore]

Third ruling of the court is to uphold the request by Hearts and Partick Thistle to for "recovery of documents".

Big decision for them.

 

[Ke55y]

Reading through the precis of the case each day it seems the judges in the arbitration can call for witnesses and documentation.

My concern about SFA Arbitration is that it won't be in public - all the SPFL shennigans that may be exposed during the course of the arbitration won't be made public.

On the plus side, Hearts/Partick case was not dismissed as wished by Dundee Utd/Raith Rovers/Cove (the judge clearly thinks there is a case to be heard). They can of course go back to the courts if they feel the SFA Arbitration conclusion is unsatisfactory.

The annoying thing for me is if he was always going to send it back too SFA why the fook did it take 3 fcuking days listening to them to say so.