WDYGH
Well-Known Member
Because they are lying cûnts.Always thought that was his end game.
If it was a separate entity why did celtic pay them to change their names.
Because they are lying cûnts.Always thought that was his end game.
If it was a separate entity why did celtic pay them to change their names.
Who the %^*& else would they be connected to?They have the cheek to print this nonsense after all these decades of ignoring the issue.
A Guardian investigation has also uncovered allegations of threats, intimidation, vandalism and social media attacks on the family of one victim of the Celtic Boys’ Club abusers. There is no suggestion these incidents are linked to anyone connected to Celtic FC or the Boys’ Club.
Why state things you have no idea about as fact?The compensation here will be minuscule, and have no detrimental impact on CFC. The pertinent part is justice for those who suffered, and the guilt of CFC being on record.
What are you basing this on?The compensation here will be minuscule, and have no detrimental impact on CFC.
Has it not already been stated in the thread that its capped at £80k per person? Thats £2m (based on 25) in compensation for decades upon decades of sexual assault. It is miniscule in terms of proportion to the crime. (if that is correct)What are you basing this on?
And why shouldn’t he. Those guys have been through a lot in their lives, in some cases preciously short lives. It is not his job to sort out what went on at Celtic, he is there to represent the best interest of his clients. If that means they get an out of court settlement and don’t have to relive it all again through public cross-examination by the defence QC then that’s ok by me. I’m sure others will want their day in court and that’s also ok.Always thought that was his end game.
I’ve felt out with a cousin when I said they are all guilty in the cover up they all knew and done nothing. They all are in denial he spat the dummy and doesn’t speak to me anymoreI said in work today that I normally don't talk about it, because I'll never use what happened at that cesspit to score points. However, this is now front page news, so I asked a couple of their lot about it and was told that it's poor bringing "that" up.
My response was that in their heads, the greater crime seems to be talking about it, rather than the crime itself. Conversation ended quite quickly after that.
I’ve felt out with a cousin when I said they are all guilty in the cover up they all knew and done nothing. They all are in denial he spat the dummy and doesn’t speak to me anymore
This is the stance every bear should take because they all did know and they all covered it up
And ignored by the Scottish government for the sole purpose of protecting Catholic votes.The most appalling aspect of this sickening issue is that the countless victims, whose lives have been destroyed, have been casually swept to the side or even ignored completely, simply to " keep the good name of the club upheld at all times. " Scotland is a toxic and corrupt little backwater.
I think the time has come to talk about it, basically.I’ve felt out with a cousin when I said they are all guilty in the cover up they all knew and done nothing. They all are in denial he spat the dummy and doesn’t speak to me anymore
This is the stance every bear should take because they all did know and they all covered it up
Half a century of lies,deceit and depravity? The victims deserve justice and satisfaction, whatever transpires this national disgrace should never be forgotten. The heart wrenching experiences the victims and their loved ones have to endure is deplorable. This football institution should be erased from all competition after the many administrations and managerial failures over the decades? Bringing the game into disrepute doesn't cover it.It’s completely true.
They all knew. Every rotten one of them, and covered it up.
The entire rancid dump should be shut down, everything sold off and the entire proceeds handed out to the poor kid survivors of their shameful behaviour.
That last line is especially….
If this was any other club in Scotland they would be shut down and the media would be moving heaven and earth to expose this scandal.It’s completely true.
They all knew. Every rotten one of them, and covered it up.
The entire rancid dump should be shut down, everything sold off and the entire proceeds handed out to the poor kid survivors of their shameful behaviour.
Strangely enough they only became a separate entity when all this came into the news thanks to excellent work by certain folk on here. . You know who you are. Well done.Who the %^*& else would they be connected to?
NASA
The black panthers
The peoples liberation front of judea
Certain perpetrators are named as
Paedo 1 and Paedo 2 due to upcoming cases. When you see it listed like this then this tells you the magnitude of what went on.
Also keep in mind there are more charges to follow..
P1
(8 convictions)
1998
3 convictions of shameless and indecent conduct between 1967 and 1974
3 victims
2018
5 convictions of sexual abuse between 1986 and 1994
3 victims
___________________________________________________________
P2 (6 convictions)
2018
6 convictions of indecent assault and two charges of lewd, indecent and libidinous practices from 1965 to 1986.
8 victims - 4 St Columba’s Boys Guild, 4 Celtic Boys Club.
2021
Case Code - GE19010036
________________________________________________________
McCAFFERTY (13 convictions)
2018
1 conviction of sexual abusing a boy in Belfast.
2019
12 convictions of sexual assault on young players between 1972 and 1986.
___________________________________________________________
KING (5 convictions)
2019
5 convictions of lewd and libidinous behaviour
5 victims
___________________________________________________________
CULLEN (1 conviction)
2004
Indecency against boys as young as 10 (took 250 photographs)
__________________________________________________________
STRACHAN (22)
1985
1 conviction of indecent assault on a child.
1997
1 conviction of sexual assault on a 5-year-old boy.
2011
3 convictions for possessing indecent photographs of children.
1 conviction of making indecent photographs of children.
1 conviction of distributing indecent photographs of children.
1 conviction of raping an 18-month-old boy.
3 convictions of lewd, indecent and libidinous practices towards a child.
1 conviction of lewd, indecent and libidinous practices and behaviour towards a
6-year-old boy.
1 conviction of participation in the commission of sexual offences including lewd, indecent and libidinous practices and behaviour, indecent assault, rape, sodomy and assault against children.
2 convictions of discussing carrying out sexual offences and assault against a child.
1 conviction of meet up with another, for the purpose of gaining access to and
committing sexual offences against male children.
1 conviction of using electronic communication with another, to state a desire to share a child for the purposes of committing sexual offences.
6 convictions of using electronic communication with another, to gain access to a child for the purposes of taking indecent images and committing sexual offences.
__________________________________________________________
If you count each of the boys in Cullen's 250 photographs as individual victims, the total of directly attributable and documented victims of paedophiles with Celtic FC/Celtic Boys Club connections is 285.
Total number of convictions is 55 - and that's not counting the convictions that will arise from P1 and P2 upcoming trials.
Spot on. O’Neill took this to a new sinister level.I think the time has come to talk about it, basically.
For too long we've been accused of using what happened there to score points in a banter war. Couple of things on that.
1) Banter ended when Martin O'Squeal came here. From then on it was a siege mentality borne out of a make believe oppression.
2) Many have now been conditioned to believe that Rangers are THE enemy. Unionists, Tories, Protestants, the Orange Order, The Craft, all of them come under that banner in the mind of a pape.
When you blend this, you have individuals that now, a generation later, live to hate us and nothing more, often risking family, livelyhood and even lives to achieve max hate.
What this also does, is blind them to their own organisation's shortcomings. They cannot face their own scandals and failures. Christ, you could even extend that to the Scottish Government too.
It's time talk about their shortcomings. It's time to disregard the noise about Ryan Porteous and such complete non-points, and shine the "spotlight" on their rancid organisation.
In society, THEY are the problem.
They keep saying they are one club since 1888.I notice the second article mentions the claim is against Celtic Plc. Now watch for the beggars mental gymnastics happening soon about thats the new company and the old company is no longer. All the while saying we are a new club. Its a very minor point compared to the gravity of the actual case. But it will be interesting to watch.
You've missed Charlie Nicholas off that list!!Professional players developed
Celtic Boys Club has helped develop many future professional players, some of whom have gone on to play for Celtic FC.
- Roy Aitken[23]
- Marc Anthony[23]
- Tom Boyd[24]
- Jimmy Boyle[25]
- Alan Brazil[1]
- Gerry Britton[23]
- Mark Burchill[23]
- Tommy Burns[26]
- Gary Caldwell[27]
- Jim Casey[28]
- Barry John Corr[23]
- Ronnie Coyle[23]
- Stephen Crainey[23]
- Danny Crainie[23]
- Gerry Creaney[23]
- Simon Donnelly[23]
- Barry Elliot[23]
- David Elliot[23]
- Mark Fotheringham[23]
- Steve Fulton[23]
- Tony Gallagher
- Peter Grant[23]
- Paddy Kelly[23]
- John Kennedy[citation needed]
- Stewart Kerr[23]
- John Paul McBride[23]
- Ryan McCann[23]
- Dugald McCarrison[23]
- George McCluskey[28]
- Brian McColligan[23]
- Andy McCondichie[23]
- Doug McGuire[23]
- Jim McInally[23]
- Tosh McKinlay[23]
- Stephen McManus[29]
- Mark McNally[23]
- Paul McStay[23][30]
- Willie McStay[23]
- Alex Mathie[23]
- Joe Miller[31]
- David Moyes[30]
- Charlie Nicholas[23][30]
- Brian O'Neil[32]
- Mark Reid[23]
- Andy Ritchie[23]
- Tony Shepherd[23]
- Jamie Smith[23]
- John Traynor[23]
- Derek Whyte[23]
They certainly know how to agitate and shit stir, faux offended and oppressed, I right!I think the time has come to talk about it, basically.
For too long we've been accused of using what happened there to score points in a banter war. Couple of things on that.
1) Banter ended when Martin O'Squeal came here. From then on it was a siege mentality borne out of a make believe oppression.
2) Many have now been conditioned to believe that Rangers are THE enemy. Unionists, Tories, Protestants, the Orange Order, The Craft, all of them come under that banner in the mind of a pape.
When you blend this, you have individuals that now, a generation later, live to hate us and nothing more, often risking family, livelyhood and even lives to achieve max hate.
What this also does, is blind them to their own organisation's shortcomings. They cannot face their own scandals and failures. Christ, you could even extend that to the Scottish Government too.
It's time talk about their shortcomings. It's time to disregard the noise about Ryan Porteous and such complete non-points, and shine the "spotlight" on their rancid organisation.
In society, THEY are the problem.
Surely it must be in the records as to why the filth paid them £20 grand or whatever and what it was for!!Yes it is now called St Patrick's Sports Academy.
Too much speculation going on here and none of us know what the outcome will be. What we do know, is this has got a lot further than even the biggest cynics on here have thought it would.Why state things you have no idea about as fact?
Your uninformed opinion is not a fact
What about Lou Macari?You've missed Charlie Nicholas off that list!!
Don't think he played with the boys club,was it not St Michaels/Kilwinning.What about Lou Macari?
I think we really need to target the sponsors again. I contacted those bastards Knew Balance twice and got no response. I’d this was anyone else they be in tatters be now. Not these cunts, they’re still bleating their seperate entity shite.
I knew it was bad.But that's truly shocking I hope and pray all the victims get justiceCertain perpetrators are named as
Paedo 1 and Paedo 2 due to upcoming cases. When you see it listed like this then this tells you the magnitude of what went on.
Also keep in mind there are more charges to follow..
P1
(8 convictions)
1998
3 convictions of shameless and indecent conduct between 1967 and 1974
3 victims
2018
5 convictions of sexual abuse between 1986 and 1994
3 victims
___________________________________________________________
P2 (6 convictions)
2018
6 convictions of indecent assault and two charges of lewd, indecent and libidinous practices from 1965 to 1986.
8 victims - 4 St Columba’s Boys Guild, 4 Celtic Boys Club.
2021
Case Code - GE19010036
________________________________________________________
McCAFFERTY (13 convictions)
2018
1 conviction of sexual abusing a boy in Belfast.
2019
12 convictions of sexual assault on young players between 1972 and 1986.
___________________________________________________________
KING (5 convictions)
2019
5 convictions of lewd and libidinous behaviour
5 victims
___________________________________________________________
CULLEN (1 conviction)
2004
Indecency against boys as young as 10 (took 250 photographs)
__________________________________________________________
STRACHAN (22)
1985
1 conviction of indecent assault on a child.
1997
1 conviction of sexual assault on a 5-year-old boy.
2011
3 convictions for possessing indecent photographs of children.
1 conviction of making indecent photographs of children.
1 conviction of distributing indecent photographs of children.
1 conviction of raping an 18-month-old boy.
3 convictions of lewd, indecent and libidinous practices towards a child.
1 conviction of lewd, indecent and libidinous practices and behaviour towards a
6-year-old boy.
1 conviction of participation in the commission of sexual offences including lewd, indecent and libidinous practices and behaviour, indecent assault, rape, sodomy and assault against children.
2 convictions of discussing carrying out sexual offences and assault against a child.
1 conviction of meet up with another, for the purpose of gaining access to and
committing sexual offences against male children.
1 conviction of using electronic communication with another, to state a desire to share a child for the purposes of committing sexual offences.
6 convictions of using electronic communication with another, to gain access to a child for the purposes of taking indecent images and committing sexual offences.
__________________________________________________________
If you count each of the boys in Cullen's 250 photographs as individual victims, the total of directly attributable and documented victims of paedophiles with Celtic FC/Celtic Boys Club connections is 285.
Total number of convictions is 55 - and that's not counting the convictions that will arise from P1 and P2 upcoming trials.
Kenny Dalglish was he not 16 also when he signed. They farmed him out to Cumbernauld Juniors probably to protect himDon't think he played with the boys club,was it not St Michaels/Kilwinning.
Edit.... He signed an S form at 16 so it could be possible.
Absolute disgusting vermin , an 18 month old baby boy ? this piece of vermin should be chemically castrated unless it can be done legally with a chain saw .God almighty.
Care to explain why? It's not like Celtic's claim of 'no affiliation' has been tested through legal proceedings. It is simply that, a claim eminating from Celtic FC., and responsible reporting would make this clear.All of you complaining about the wording in the papers and on tv regarding the connection between CFC and CBC; until the connection is proven the press may have to report it that way, or be threatened by legal action.
What do the numbers mean after the players names?You've missed Charlie Nicholas off that list!!
That your cousin would stop speaking to you because a football club employed paedophiles only serves to highlight what a depraved cult it is.I’ve felt out with a cousin when I said they are all guilty in the cover up they all knew and done nothing. They all are in denial he spat the dummy and doesn’t speak to me anymore
This is the stance every bear should take because they all did know and they all covered it up
It gets frustrating watching posters speculate. The Spotlight group hasn’t released everything yet.Too much speculation going on here and none of us know what the outcome will be. What we do know, is this has got a lot further than even the biggest cynics on here have thought it would.
Our personal feelings on what should happen are irrelevant. It's about the suffering of others.
No apologies needed at all. I'm astonished you's have got this far to be honest.It gets frustrating watching posters speculate. The Spotlight group hasn’t released everything yet.
I’ve said the following on the big thread. The reason we’re holding things back is due to the upcoming court cases.
Of course we would like to release everything now but it could harm upcoming cases.
We hold documents that have never been seen and are also in the correct hands.
I also said earlier in the thread that this is just the start. We strongly believe this.
I apologise if I’m being repetitive to some who have followed the big thread but this was a very well organised ring.
The heartbreaking thing is it’s went on for so long when it could have been stopped.
They chose to ignore it.
There must be a mentality in the Roman Catholic/Celtic community in Scotland that view rape and abuse as a low level moral crime.An acceptable part of their culture and brushed of like these things happen get on with it.
Have said this from day one its the Church worldwide they have paid out more in compensation etc than any other organisationSpot on. O’Neill took this to a new sinister level.
When you have a cult like organisation that controls their victims from the age of 4 or 5,using very tried and tested brain washing techniques it’s hard for individuals to buck the system break ranks and criticize their leaders.Have said this from day one its the Church worldwide they have paid out more in compensation etc than any other organisation
Not having a dig mate.No apologies needed at all. I'm astonished you's have got this far.
There sponsored by Adidas though?I think we really need to target the sponsors again. I contacted those bastards New Balance twice and got no response. I’d this was anyone else they be in tatters be now. Not these cunts, they’re still bleating their seperate entity shite.
the Ulsterisation of Scotland mate .that was their game from the start and the Scottish electorate still don't see it as they continue to vote them in .A lost country .I think the time has come to talk about it, basically.
For too long we've been accused of using what happened there to score points in a banter war. Couple of things on that.
1) Banter ended when Martin O'Squeal came here. From then on it was a siege mentality borne out of a make believe oppression.
2) Many have now been conditioned to believe that Rangers are THE enemy. Unionists, Tories, Protestants, the Orange Order, The Craft, all of them come under that banner in the mind of a pape.
When you blend this, you have individuals that now, a generation later, live to hate us and nothing more, often risking family, livelyhood and even lives to achieve max hate.
What this also does, is blind them to their own organisation's shortcomings. They cannot face their own scandals and failures. Christ, you could even extend that to the Scottish Government too.
It's time talk about their shortcomings. It's time to disregard the noise about Ryan Porteous and such complete non-points, and shine the "spotlight" on their rancid organisation.
In society, THEY are the problem.
I'm not doubting their commitment, just the powers that they have took on, is not easy and I would imagine they've all banged their head against the wall many times.Not having a dig mate.
I am not astonished in the slightest.
The Spotlight team have taken this to another level of what I would call independent journalism. Seeking facts and getting the facts out there for all to see. If the so called journalists had done their jobs, there would be no need for it.
Many man hours and digging deep into the abyss have got them this far. Also, the way Spotlight have conducted themselves in this muddled media world should also be commended.
No probs mate.I'm not doubting their commitment, just the powers that they have took on, is not easy and I would imagine they've all banged their head against the wall many times.
As history shows, taking on the powers that be is not an easy thing and can take years. I'll use Hillsborough as one example, but there's many more, in fact this programme on at the moment about Saville is another example of it.
It gets frustrating watching posters speculate. The Spotlight group hasn’t released everything yet.
I’ve said the following on the big thread. The reason we’re holding things back is due to the upcoming court cases.
Of course we would like to release everything now but it could harm upcoming cases.
We hold documents that have never been seen and are also in the correct hands.
I also said earlier in the thread that this is just the start. We strongly believe this.
I apologise if I’m being repetitive to some who have followed the big thread but this was a very well organised ring.
The heartbreaking thing is it’s went on for so long when it could have been stopped.
They chose to ignore it.