tazzabear
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What has Wilson done wrong here?and will live off of that for ever more?
Facts please.
What has Wilson done wrong here?and will live off of that for ever more?
What has Wilson done wrong here?
Facts please.
How can you say it’s likely all we will see when every single report says it’s an overall £10m package. Unless the add ons include Southampton winning the league then I would say we are going to end up with more than £6m for him.He could have quickly kiiled off the now obvious nonsense that Big Joe had a £ 10 million trigger-clause for a start. We don't even know if there was any such clause whatsoever. £ 6 million is likely all we will see for Big Joe. That's the guts of it, tbh.
Another point. How is it nonsense he had a £10m release clause? That doesn’t mean he can’t be sold for less than £10m. It only means if someone offers that then we have to let the player talk to the club.He could have quickly kiiled off the now obvious nonsense that Big Joe had a £ 10 million trigger-clause for a start. We don't even know if there was any such clause whatsoever. £ 6 million is likely all we will see for Big Joe. That's the guts of it, tbh.
How can you say it’s likely all we will see when every single report says it’s an overall £10m package. Unless the add ons include Southampton winning the league then I would say we are going to end up with more than £6m for him.
Even so, nobody outwith the player/agent and the clubs know all the ins and outs.
I have to say I didn't expect that furious reaction or an insinuation I am a fan boy...Fcuk me, I don't rate him and think he is over hyped. That is my opinion and I don't need to provide a full dossier on why thats the case to appease the fan boys on this forum.
If we were to go player to player on who we rate and who we don't then we will always have disagreements but every man's / woman's opinion is their own.
The love in for Hickey on here is hilarious and if anyone goes against that then they are targeted for being idiots who can't dress themselves in the morning.
Big Bologna fan then?
You're correct. We don't know what any add-ons are, but as of now we will receive £ 6 million, which is the reality of the situation. The general consensus in the tabloids and on here was that the trigger-clause was £ 10 million, which has clearly been shown up as nonsense. I think we can agree on that.
Big miss for Celtic who let him go!Just signed for Brentford
Brentford sign Bologna defender Hickey for £17m
Brentford sign Bologna defender Aaron Hickey for £17m including add-ons.www.bbc.co.uk
Another point. How is it nonsense he had a £10m release clause? That doesn’t mean he can’t be sold for less than £10m. It only means if someone offers that then we have to let the player talk to the club.
If nobody is offering more then what else do we do? Keep an unhappy player for a season and lose on a free?
That doesn’t explain how the release clause was nonsense.Southampton low-balled us for a player entering the end of his contract. Nothing wrong in that. Its what clubs do. They knew we were in no position to turn down £ 6 million. We've accepted their offer, and we move on.
In what way does it show the release clause as nonsense?
Just because someone didnt pay that amount doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
So Robertson was a standout then as it's funny no one mentioned him. Plus if you watch him play for Scotland there is no way you would want him looks good surrounded by quality players at Liverpool looks but dugshit for Scotland.Whi
Whit? Haha
We signed Smith when we were in the second Division. The season after we played in the 3rd against Roberston.
Posts like the drivel you just posted reminds me of the lengths people will go to in order to avoid saying the club didn't make the vest decision.
As opposed to mark Allen... who in most cases we had to pay players to leaveBecause we have Ross Wilson.
Just pointing out you are wrong to say nobody mentioned him when they clearly did.A lot of people also thought Cathro was a managerial god as well.
2 years agoWas always Hearts weak link against us, crazy money.
I’m the same, I just don’t see it.I have honestly never rated him and every time I watch him he still looks like a wee boy.
It goes against the grain though as so many posters on here must be part time Bologna fans due to their constant raving of him.
I just dont see it!
Good for you you must need that.Just pointing out you are wrong to say nobody mentioned him when they clearly did.
I have to say I didn't expect that furious reaction or an insinuation I am a fan boy...
Ultimately though you seem to have zero to justify your opinion (hence your reaction) but hey ho a non debate. Hope you got yourself dressed ok.
No he won't. Patterson, if fit or even Ralston will be ahead of himBut his pal ODonnell will remain first pick.
So you admit you made an absolute arse of it and got all the info wrong in your last post?So Robertson was a standout then as it's funny no one mentioned him. Plus if you watch him play for Scotland there is no way you would want him looks good surrounded by quality players at Liverpool looks but dugshit for Scotland.
I have to say I didn't expect that furious reaction or an insinuation I am a fan boy...Ultimately though you seem to have zero to justify your opinion (hence your reaction) but hey ho a non debate. Hope you got yourself dressed ok.
Not sure why you appear to have quoted there me as it was not me that said that but, Barryhopez ! (post160)..Hardly a furious reaction was it?
Anytime I have seen him play he has been woeful, thats generally why I don't rate him. That includes games for Hearts, Scotland and Bologna.
You clearly rate him and other posters on FF feel the same.
I dont rate him and other posters on FF also feel the same.
Simple as that!
The only 'simple' in here is unfortunately you. As:Hardly a furious reaction was it?
Anytime I have seen him play he has been woeful, thats generally why I don't rate him. That includes games for Hearts, Scotland and Bologna.
You clearly rate him and other posters on FF feel the same.
I dont rate him and other posters on FF also feel the same.
Simple as that!
How many 90 minutes did you watch him play for Bologna?Hardly a furious reaction was it?
Anytime I have seen him play he has been woeful, thats generally why I don't rate him. That includes games for Hearts, Scotland and Bologna.
You clearly rate him and other posters on FF feel the same.
I dont rate him and other posters on FF also feel the same.
Simple as that!
So, you don’t know then!He could have quickly kiiled off the now obvious nonsense that Big Joe had a £ 10 million trigger-clause for a start. We don't even know if there was any such clause whatsoever. £ 6 million is likely all we will see for Big Joe. That's the guts of it, tbh.
The only 'simple' in here is unfortunately you. As:
It was a furious reaction...
I never said I rated him...
I only asked you a question...
Because we have Ross Wilson.
How many 90 minutes did you watch him play for Bologna?
Kind of obvious,I’d say.Why do these players go for big money when ours don't.
I'm not the one saying he's overrated/pish/will flop at Brentford etc etc. I'm only going on him being a standout in Serie A, playing the most games in Europe for a boy his age in a top league and getting a £17m move to the best league in the world.None, Im just basing my opinion on when he was bullied playing with Hearts as a 16 year old.
You?
Andy Robertson looked like an absolute amateur in his last game for Scotland and he was playing in his natural position. That doesn’t mean he’s not still a CL winning Liverpool player who’s regularly selected by one of the best managers in the world.Based on that last game he played for Scotland, that is a ridiculous amount of money.
Fasten your seatbelt, the master salesmen will be on soon!Ross Wilson got £16m for Patterson who had played far less games.
None of what I posted was wrong, you seem to be getting wound up pretty tight about one of them.So you admit you made an absolute arse of it and got all the info wrong in your last post?
And yes, various threads at the time singled him out as a stand out. No doubt you were replying saying he was shite and wouldn't get near our team.
Amazingly by still insisting we were right to sign Stevie Smith instead of Andy Roberston, even now you perfectly prove my point.
Why? He's been outstanding in Serie A for two years. In today's market £17m isn't too bad.£17m for him is madness.
Correct, if he was a young Italian player no one on FF would bat an eyelid, but because he's Scottish!Hearts haven’t sold him for £17m. A Serie A team have.
Aaron RamseyWhat has Wilson done wrong here?
Facts please.
Ross Wilson paid Barker to go but agree about Allen.As opposed to mark Allen... who in most cases we had to pay players to leave
So with regards to your last paragraph with which I agree , the same should be done with Kent and Morelos surely?Another point. How is it nonsense he had a £10m release clause? That doesn’t mean he can’t be sold for less than £10m. It only means if someone offers that then we have to let the player talk to the club.
If nobody is offering more then what else do we do? Keep an unhappy player for a season and lose on a free?
Personally, it would not surprise me if the trigger clause was actually £ 3- £5 million for Big Joe. They had us over a barrel and were never paying anywhere near £ 10 million. That 's cuckoo-land stuff for a player running down his contract.
Patterson was 9m will only go up to 12+ if he makes so many apperancesPatterson?