Babaganoosh
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The vast majority saying it won't have been in a fight since they were in primary school. If at all. Its laughableSpeak for yourself, some people would nip this in bud in that way.
The vast majority saying it won't have been in a fight since they were in primary school. If at all. Its laughableSpeak for yourself, some people would nip this in bud in that way.
The vast majority saying it won't have been in a fight since they were in primary school. If at all. Its laughable
In my experience with family and friends that’s exactly how it works for most. But hey am a dinosaur as well.Naive as %^*& if you think that's how it works for every kid. Not even close
Another reason why I'll likely bring my kids up abroad. An absolute nonsense that kids need to put up with this shite and the fact the sectarianism industry is still booming means its not gonna change anytime soon.
Always strikes me as odd that some recommend this approach."If it was me I'd be round his door to batter the dad"
No you wouldn't. Pipe down
That doesn't matter to the FF hard men. The bully's dad is always a cowardly weakling.Always strikes me as odd that some recommend this approach.
What if the Dad in question turns out to be spectacularly useful with his fists?
Years ago I had to go round and speak to a dad who's son had been bullying and quite nasty to my daughter.I love how everybody is assuming that the dad of a bully is a 5'4, 7st weakling who would just stand on his doorstep and let somebody batter f*ck out of him because his kid hit their kid at school. This isn't Hollywood.
How is your boy now mate? Has anything happened since you posted this? Hope you get this sorted and your son is ok.My 6 year old son was attacked today at school by one of the kids in his class because he said he supported Rangers. One of the Tim kids punched him several times in his face and neck. (I might add that there’s an RC primary less than 100 yards away but there somehow are 5 Tims in his class,) While I am very much anti Celtic I have told him repeatedly if other kids in your class support other teams that’s absolutely fine. I am absolutely fucking raging. We are contacting the Head Teacher tomorrow to say if she doesn’t do something about it we’re going to the Education Department at Glasgow City Council and kicking up absolute %^*&.
Maybe that's how it works for some, but for others who are straight out the door at work with an assault conviction and struggling to get a new job, what would you suggest?In my experience with family and friends that’s exactly how it works for most. But hey am a dinosaur as well.
Remember the Herald years back had an article re religion to prisoners, back then it was something in the region of approx 70%+. Could you imagine today in this shitty little Country trying to get those figures under freedom of interest, may hurt the Natsis core vote.That's an interesting statement.
Looking back to my days at high school, the catholics were maybe less than 1-2% of the boys in my year. There were maybe 3 or 4 of them and they had brothers/sisters/lovers in other years. NONE of them were from good families and ALL of the males ended up doing time after school.
That small sample would tend to lean toward your statement being correct.
My son is autistic.Some kids don't have it their nature to fight back, you can tell them to do it all you want but if its not there its hard to install it
Primary school. Kids normally act like this because of parental influences. They copy and see how adults act towards rangers fans and act out accordingly.
Dreading it happening to my boy as well as there’s nothing for it other than for him to stand up for himself and give twice as much back. Nothing else works.
The media? No offence to the OP but schoolyard antics isn't news.
Sectarianism is, but this is the wrong kind. Has to be anti catholic or anti Irish. Preferably both
Hahaha I never agreed with challenging the Da at their door. I was agreeing with the poster who said to teach the kid to fight and to stand up for himself.Maybe that's how it works for some, but for others who are straight out the door at work with an assault conviction and struggling to get a new job, what would you suggest?
Hahaha tells me all I need to know.Hahaha I never agreed with challenging the Da at their door. I was agreeing with the poster who said to teach the kid to fight and to stand up for himself.
It’s a fight between 6 year olds, you can’t fight your kids battles but you can prepare them
Whats sectarian about it? OP said its because he is a Rangers fan? We dont all follow the same religion
Regardless of what you think Rangers as an institution are still viewed as a Protestant club. Do you think the lad that was attacked would have been attacked if he supported any other team in the world?
So he was attacked because of his football team, not his perceived religion. Had the kids been calling him "proddy this or that" then fine but to me it reads like a group of wee bastards who happen to support Celtic picking on a boy that supports Rangers. That isn't always sectarianism and doesn't read like it in this case. Going down this road makes us as bad as the like of call it out and demeams actual religious hate crime.
A bit of research prior to rattling on his door would be my approach.Always strikes me as odd that some recommend this approach.
What if the Dad in question turns out to be spectacularly useful with his fists?
Aiden McGeady doesnt agree.
FF at its absolute zenith!!!A bit of research prior to rattling on his door would be my approach.
Sit and wait for him to exit his door.
Built like a brick shit house-Let sleeping dogs lie.
Built like an anorexic Julian Clarey- Batter the fucker to within an inch of his life.
This isnt just about kids fighting though, its a bigger issue that that. This other child needs to be taught that attacking someone because they support Rangers isnt right and thats learned behaviour that needs explained to the child that, this is wrong behaviour.Hahaha I never agreed with challenging the Da at their door. I was agreeing with the poster who said to teach the kid to fight and to stand up for himself.
It’s a fight between 6 year olds, you can’t fight your kids battles but you can prepare them
Dont agree with you at all.So he was attacked because of his football team, not his perceived religion. Had the kids been calling him "proddy this or that" then fine but to me it reads like a group of wee bastards who happen to support Celtic picking on a boy that supports Rangers. That isn't always sectarianism and doesn't read like it in this case. Going down this road makes us as bad as the like of call it out and demeams actual religious hate crime.
I don't think it's a stupid reply. Using learn instead of teach is irrelevant because you knew exactly what Lizzie meant.Stupid reply.
40 years old and you don't know the difference between 'learn' and teach. You're not really the kind of person the OP should take advice from.
Nearly as bad as the "batter his da' idiots".
Same for me in the 90s.I was brought up in the Calton in Glasgow in the 50's and 60's. Some of my classmates were supporters of that other mob but in all of the years I attended primary school I never knew anybody to lay a finger on a schoolmate because of the team they supported. My secondary school was John Street in Bridgeton which was full of Bears, but nobody ever fought about football with any of the guys who supported that mob - and there were a few. The situation that the op described has to be brought to the attention of the school's headcteacher and they then need to raise it with the parents of the children concerned.
Bollocks.This is a 6 year old child we are talking about not someone in their early teens. A young child vulnerable to what is tantamount to bullying, maybe have a think next time
Bollocks.
[/QUOT So the fact that a 6 year old is bullied because he's a Rangers fan is bollocks in your opinion, aye very good
Boxing would be my advice added bonus you can do pad and bag work as bonding time as well at home my 2 (son and daughter) were hitting pads from about the age of 4, great for hand eye coordination and movement.
I agree with what you're saying as regards teaching kids to defend themselves but in saying that not every child has that in their nature, that's when bullying comes into it.To the OP. Yes take it up with the school and ensure it stops.
But listen to people like Lizzie and Gary Mitchell.
Boxing is a great for self defense.
@Johansen I think your reply to Lizzie saying teach your son to defend himself, is bollocks. If a child is getting bullied, teaching them to defend themselves isn't bad advise.
You're just swapping one issue with another though - my kids have done all of their schooling in England and now Cyprus, not one school year has passed without a kid saying "why don't you go home" to them.Another reason why I'll likely bring my kids up abroad. An absolute nonsense that kids need to put up with this shite and the fact the sectarianism industry is still booming means its not gonna change anytime soon.
I honestly think this is something training fixes I've known some really quiet folk that can flip the switch in a heartbeat when necessary, I think it's a confidence thing knowing someone can hurt you is obvious knowing you can hurt someone not so much imo.I agree with what you're saying as regards teaching kids to defend themselves but in saying that not every child has that in their nature, that's when bullying comes into it.
I suppose it matters where you bring them up. Certain areas of the Middle East don't suffer with that as it's so multicultural and you have very little integration with the locals. Also, it's not binary, I can teach my kids how to stand up for themselves and remove them from this backwater.You're just swapping one issue with another though - my kids have done all of their schooling in England and now Cyprus, not one school year has passed without a kid saying "why don't you go home" to them.
Teaching your kids to sand up for themselves (by educating them about their roots and self defence) is a far better option.
The vast majority of Rangers fans probably don't follow any religion.Regardless of what you think Rangers as an institution are still viewed as a Protestant club. Do you think the lad that was attacked would have been attacked if he supported any other team in the world?
The tone of "batter his Da" and other such advice is a bit crude. However I am reminded of a father I know whose daughter (teenage) had, without him knowing, been bullied in school over many months.Stupid reply.
40 years old and you don't know the difference between 'learn' and teach. You're not really the kind of person the OP should take advice from.
Nearly as bad as the "batter his da' idiots".
They might not go to church but I think you would see the vast majority of Rangers fans would perceive themselves as Protestant.The vast majority of Rangers fans probably don't follow any religion.
I find this all a bit odd, to be honest.
We have been given only one kid's version of events, accepted it as fact and advised accordingly.
How does a Dad know the number of Catholic kid's in a child's class? Is this easily available information?
In the 2011 census 35% were Protestant and 43% didn't have a religion. It will probably be less after this year's census. Most people go to church for a wedding or a funeral.They might not go to church but I think you would see the vast majority of Rangers fans would perceive themselves as Protestant.
The vast majority of Rangers fans probably don't follow any religion.
The middle east is rarely referred to for its openness to other cultures, if you are living in a gated community in the middle east, then I also fail to see how your kids will avoid any form of conflict with other British kids out there.I suppose it matters where you bring them up. Certain areas of the Middle East don't suffer with that as it's so multicultural and you have very little integration with the locals. Also, it's not binary, I can teach my kids how to stand up for themselves and remove them from this backwater.
Might be classified as a hate crime.Therefore physical attacks on our players and fans can NOT be classed as sectarian?
Ok.