Sandbear
Well-Known Member
Any other club would have died of shame and shut up shop.
You have to have a certain amount of self awareness and repentance to feel shame they have neither.
Any other club would have died of shame and shut up shop.
Any other club would have done the right thing .Any other club would have died of shame and shut up shop.
And wipe out their vote in one fell swoop ?? I doubt it very much......I wonder if any SNP MPs will comment. This is a new development.
PaedodiseI genuinely cannot believe nothing is being done about the systematic abuse of children over a period of decades, simply to protect the 'good' name of a rancid football club. My anger is growing more and more from Mostly covering the vile club to including the Scottish media and justice system. Why the %^*& is nothing being done about this? Look at all the shit with the BBC and Operation Yewtree. How deep does this go? Is this another ring of seismic proportions? Is this being ignored because it is tied in with BBC and politicians? This is a scandal on an international level and it's being completely ignored, but not in a completely blackout way, that would make their motives too obvious. It's something like this, every now and then the paper will run a front page then never mention it again, the BBC will post an article online that is bumped off by some nothing football story ASAP. This is a deliberate tactic that allows them to go "Of course it's being reported and dealt with, look, it was in this paper here and the BBC spoke of it there" and make it look like it's paranoid point scoring from bitter rangers fans. I know we use the term scum often to refer to them, but those involved in this from a number of institutions are genuine, genuine scum, and I wish the NCA would get involved with this - unfortunately their full jurisdiction only covers England, Wales and NI, and they'd need express permission from Scottish government and legal system to act on this case
Fuckin horrendous man. Paedos protecting paedos everywhere, and every other kunt burying their head in the sand.
Well I fukin hope they don't take tickets for the 29th, and I hope there's never an allocation for us at their place ever again, cause the thought of rangers fans funding their sick, abusive cult makes me retch.
Paradise? Aye, Coolio got that one right,
"Been spending most your lives complicit in a paedos paradise."
Further proof that they were indeed the same entity.Celtic Manager Jock Stein and his assistant (Head of Recruiting) Sean Fallon handing out awards at a Celtic Boys Club event in 1974. The headline in the club magazine The Celtic View reads "Jim bows out..."
Jim is the convicted paedophile Jim Torbett.
Another Celtic Boys Club prize-giving event from the previous year (1973).
Torbett with Stein sitting in front.
Stein and club Captain Billy McNeill with beast Torbett behind filmed handing out awards at the event.
Separate entity anyone?
It's not in their vocabulary. Scum. SCUM of the earth. Sooner that sordid institution are closed down for good the better.Why can't they at least say sorry
I can’t get my head around how they are getting away with this, it’s a sad indictment of how powerful they are in Scottish society and how weak the law profession is regarding bringing them to justice.
Your right it is, but only 20 supposed to be appearing at court prob because all have the same tragic storyI may have this wrong, was there a report a couple of months ago that stated Cairney's victims could be over 100?
Justice is coming!
This is clearly the case and is obvious to anybody with a modicum of common sense.My bigger concern isIt's really not my friend.
The mountains and mountains of evidence has been destroyed over the past 30 years.
The victims are too scared of the abuse they will be subjected to if they speak up.
Families have been paid hush money.
The delays in bringing this paedophile ring to justice meant that witnesses and victims have been effectively gagged.
The overriding control that CFC have over the media and the judiciary has been set up over the past 4 decades to ensure the narrative is always controlled.
Rangers Supporters are not organised the way the celtc darkweb is. We don't hate enough to obsess and create award winning blogs that detail the crimes. We moan and suggest on FF. We echo each other but we are powerless.
The celtc propaganda machine is being controlled by the man that's running the SFA. Digest that for one moment .... the media are being influenced by Shifty McGifty who is employed by Dermot Desmond and is in charge of the SFA.
Justice is not coming. They've played the long game and will deflect every ounce of blame away from their beloved sewer of a club.
Celtic Manager Jock Stein and his assistant (Head of Recruiting) Sean Fallon handing out awards at a Celtic Boys Club event in 1974. The headline in the club magazine The Celtic View reads "Jim bows out..."
Jim is the convicted paedophile Jim Torbett.
Another Celtic Boys Club prize-giving event from the previous year (1973).
Torbett with Stein sitting in front.
Stein and club Captain Billy McNeill with beast Torbett behind filmed handing out awards at the event.
Separate entity anyone?
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It has to. Boys were under the care of cfc who should have protected them, not allow someone from a separate entity(which we all know is bullshit) free reign.Justice is coming!
I believe at least one abused boy has committed suicide.
Why can't they at least say sorry
They are scum and are as bad as Torbett (and any other paedophile).Tip of the iceberg,met Kenny a few times and he is very open and honest about the abuse,he was scathing of the club he supports and I was delighted for him when JT was sentenced in court for him..he was there with his son and the pain in his face was horrible.
Another life ruined by that animal JT,other scum fans would give him abuse in bookies and in other public places because he was going up against the club,he told me as it would darken the clubs image!!
WTF is wrong with these people and what a disgrace!
A FORMER football coach who is alleged to have molested youngsters was highly respected due to his links with legendary Celtic manager Jock Stein, a court has heard.
Frank Cairney, 82, ran a boys football team in Viewpark, Lanarkshire, where he trained dozens of budding starlets.
Cairney, of Viewpark, was known to have links with Stein and adopted training methods dubbed ‘the Celtic way’.
But an ex-professional footballer has told a trial he was abused by Cairney when he was a teenager and played for his St Columba’s Boys Guild team in 1965.
Cairney is on trial at Hamilton Sheriff Court and denies 10 charges of historic sexual abuse spanning between 1965 and 1986 including allegations of indecent assault at Celtic’s former Barrowfield training ground.
A jury heard the footballer, who cannot be named for legal reasons, say youngsters were keen to join the team due to Cairney’s known links to Stein.
The 67-year-old, who played for a number of senior teams during his career, said rumours had surrounded Cairney and boys tried not to be alone with him.
He wept as he told jurors he stayed silent over the alleged abuse due to fears it would harm his career.
Under questioning from depute fiscal Paula Russell, the man said he was aged around 15 or 16 when he encountered Cairney.
He said: “Frank Cairney managed the team and he was excellent and had wonderful close links to Jock Stein and we used to train the Celtic way as they would say and that is why so many good players came from Viewpark.
“There was a kitchen in the church hall where he had a bed and would give us a professional rub but you didn’t like to go in yourself because there had been rumours.
“When it happened to me I knew what they were talking about, it happened to me a couple of times maybe four.
“There was also a time when I was running late and Frank offered to give me a lift and when he was driving put his hand onto me and started rubbing my thighs close to my groin and only stopped when we got to the end of the road.
“I didn’t say anything because I was embarrassed and scared to say anything.
“I wanted to play football and wanted to continue playing football so didn’t say anything, he had links and could say to another team not to sign me or something so I kept my mouth shut.
“The way it happened showed he didn’t give two monkeys and I think he thought, ‘he won’t say anything, he won’t do anything.’
“When it stopped he was totally nonchalant as if nothing had ever happened.
“After the incident in the car I stayed well clear of him.”
He added: “There would be no benefit whatsoever to lie, why would I stand here and tell lies when I have nothing to hide? What I was doing was hiding the truth from myself.”
Cairney faces charges he abused one 14-year-old boy on various occasions at the Barrowfield ground as well as other locations in Glasgow and Lanarkshire between September 1969 and December 1972.
And he also faces an alternative charge of committing an alleged act of gross indecency against the same boy between September 1969 and December 1971 at the same locations.
Prosecutors also allege he indecently assaulted another 14-year-old boy at the training ground between January 1985 and December 1986.
He is further accused of indecent assault against three other boys aged between 14 and 17 at various Lanarkshire locations including a church between May 1965 and May 1970.
Cairney faces separate charges of alleged lewd, indecent and libidinous behaviour against two 12-year-old boys between December 1965 and December 1969 in Lanarkshire.
The trial before Sheriff Daniel Kelly QC continues.
EXPOSED; Celtic starlets name second boys' club boss as sex abuser.
A second Celtic Boys' Club boss molested youngsters.
For 20 years Frank Cairney - known as the Godfather of Celtic youth - abused innocent young hopefuls who adored him.
The 56-year-old bachelor has always emphatically denied all sex claims.
But after the Daily Record's explosive revelations about Cairney's pal Jim Torbett, dozens of ex-Celtic boys have contacted us about their former general manager.
And they all tell a sordid tale of the man who was the mentor to many Celtic greats.
One, now 32, said: "He put his hand down my shorts and started to fondle me.
"I left his room crying."
Another ex-Celtic boy, 26-year-old Scott Sinclair, came forward after the Record's expose.
The former goalkeeper told how Cairney regularly fondled boys in the front of his white Ford Cortina.
Scott said: "Frank wouldn't let you travel with your bag. It always had to go in the boot."
Calls have jammed the Record switchboard to tell of abuse by Cairney from more than 20 years ago.
Cairney quit as general manager following an incident while he was on tour with Celtic Boys' Club in America.
New York police had been called in after an incident involving a young Celtic boy. But the case was closed because the boy did not make an official complaint to the Sexual Assault and Victims Unit.
At the same time, Cairney also resigned from the coaching staff at Parkhead.
He said at the time: "I'm no bogey man."
But the Record can reveal that the man who was the most respected figure in youth football, was a sick pervert who preyed on youngsters.
When Tommy Burns was appointed Parkhead boss in 1994, he tried to bring his mentor Frank Cairney back to Parkhead.
But the move to end his three year exile was blocked by Celtic chief Fergus McCann.
Last night at his home in Viewpark, Uddingston, Cairney said: "I have nothing whatsoever to say. Speak to my lawyers."
Tommy Burns was also at Cairney's house to give him his support.
He said: "He has the whole of my backing and that of Celtic Football Club to a man.
"He has trained some of the great names of Celtic, including Roy Aitken, Paul McStay, George McCluskey, Alan Brazil, Pat Nevin, Peter Grant, Andy Ritchie and myself.
"Ever since I knew him he's been a great friend and a great influence on me and a lot of other players who had the pleasure of playing on his team."
I know of one who commited suicide about 10 year ago who was at the boys club released at turn of century then quiting the game a couple of year laterI believe at least one abused boy has committed suicide.
SoS understand that the SFA held back one recommendation from a list of 95 recommendations from their historic sexual abuse enquiry. This last recommendation will not be released until the outstanding trials are complete.
Those other parties have the opportunity to ask questions in the Diddy parliament or the real one but they too are ignoring it. Why is that?This isn't just a cover up by the snp, the other parties should hang their heads in shame
Seen a few responses,by mps, to sister of one of the victims. Pretty much say they can't raise it because not one of their constituents.. feckin shambles of a parliamentThose other parties have the opportunity to ask questions in the Diddy parliament or the real one but they too are ignoring it. Why is that?
It is shameful.
The victims are too scared of the abuse they will be subjected to if they speak up.
Families have been paid hush money.
Justice is not coming. They've played the long game and will deflect every ounce of blame away from their beloved sewer of a club.
Seen a few responses,by mps, to sister of one of the victims. Pretty much say they can't raise it because not one of their constituents.. feckin shambles of a parliament
They're f**ked this time.Point 1. The victims are already speaking up. They've found the courage to take Celtic to task.
Point 2. We can't prove families received hush money. If you have any then please share.
Point 3. Justice is coming! Even the great Celtic PR Machine can't do anything about the tsunami of shit heading their way. The long arm of the law has finally caught up with them.
Justice is coming! Even the great Celtic PR Machine can't do anything about the tsunami of shit heading their way. The long arm of the law has finally caught up with them.
I've often wondered about Burns sticking up for Cairney...weird, disgusting even, a bizarre friendship, it made me think of William Gilbert and his 'admiration' for another paedophile, Jim Torbett.Frank Cairney - the man Tommy Burns rushed to defend hailing him as the Godfather of Celtic youth.
Sickens me to the pit of my stomach that people such as Alan Brazil always try to defend him......Jock Stein is every bit as vile as the subhuman scum that destroyed so many youngs boys' lives.
“No chance. Big Jock wouldn’t stand for any nonsense would he?
“But I tell you who did know — The Kelly family who ran Celtic at the time.
“They stood by him. One of the Kellys was even with Torbett in court. That p****d me off big style.”
Any other club would have died of shame and shut up shop.
To be fair I think that Brazils head is so fucked from the horrific abuse that he suffered, coupled with his alcoholism that he's not capable of making rational and sound judgement anymore. In all honesty I feel heart sorry for him as he comes across for the most part as an intelligent and very decent guy.Sickens me to the pit of my stomach that people such as Alan Brazil always try to defend him......