Who in their right mind would pay a million or million and a half for Pena??? (depending on conflicting information on what we paid for him) Seriously?? Guys a waste of space, worse than a man down. Since he's been out the team (all be it two games) we have played far better. Holt done more in two games than that guy has done all season. Waste of money and a dressing room peg. Sorry if that sounds harsh but it's true.I hate to say it but I'm not fussed regards Pena, if we recoup half the cash he cost I'd cut our loses...
I agree with this. He's had hardly any game time with us and has scored a few already. Not a long term answer or first choice on his viewings so far, but i think he's taken a lot of unfair crticism.Herrera deserves more of a chance before we proper judge him but think he will be away in the summer. Maybe Jan.
... Because he was hopeless and never contributed anything to the match. That's why.I heard the drugs story for Pena yesterday. Doubt its true but it's strange why he's been out since the semi
I guess so, although I still had the Barton failing reminding me that stepping down in quality doesn't always produce success.I think Mciness will have done a good bit of investigating
I agree.At the time though most of us didn't know that,we all believed and hoped that he still had something in the tank.
Peña hasn’t done anything near enough to even merit a place on the bench.
Herrera hasn’t been much better. I’d have given Hardie more time yesterday, and given Barjonas a wee run out as well. The match was finished after the 3rd goal anyway.
True, and I did consider his goals, but that aside, for me anyway, he has been totally useless.To be fair to him he's scored 4 goals from midfield, which could be considered 'enough' by some.
I, for one, would never had assumed this.
Why would you?
Why would it be part of the DoF remit?
If we bring in the likes of McLean and Moult in January, both could be surplus to requirements.
McLean might actually put an ounce of effort in unlike PenaGenuine question but what would McLean offer than Pena doesn't? Can honestly say I've never seen much of him...
McLean might actually put an ounce of effort in unlike Pena
I'm struggling to think what Pena has done so far to warrant an automatic 1st team place ?
Of course I'm grateful for his goals - but I wonder if they would have been converted by almost anyone in the line-up
I've got more respect for Herrera - well a bit more - he too needs to improve and if in training he isn't quite up to it - then surely it's no wonder GM is leaving him out -
The message to him should be obvious - i.e. get yourself sharper / fitter / eager or you'll remain on the bench or drop out of the squad altogether
So, no real reason for thinking this other than it being the way you’d ant it to be?Becauae we aren't a club who can shit 4 million down the drain someone being able to get a tune out of them would help us..
Pena doesn't appear to be getting a look in under Murty, which is surprising and I would expect him tone moved on in the next window.
So, no real reason for thinking this other than it being the way you’d ant it to be?
The DoF should have input into team selection?
Not for me.
Don’t make it that Murty is a temp.
How could you say to a guy “you take the reins but do it this way”?
Outstanding reply, bud.Yeah literally like you have said - by opening ones mouth and saying words!
He was atrocious in the semi final even for his standards. Then we had Killie at home. It was pretty clear that any manager other than Pedro wouldn't suffer him. So it's not strange at all. No need for daft drug rumours to be spread ffs.
Genuine question but what would McLean offer than Pena doesn't? Can honestly say I've never seen much of him...
Pena doesn't appear to be getting a look in under Murty, which is surprising and I would expect him tone moved on in the next window.
People that think Pena would be a better option than Jamie Walker do not have a clue about the game imo.
I can only imagine they will be gone at the first offer. Difficult to see them turning it around, which is a real shame but we cannot afford passengers.You'd imagine that any half decent offer coming in for them would be accepted .
I wouldn't be surprised to see the both of them back in Mexico before the end of the season imo