Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)

On the 27th Feb this year, Martin Henry said this -

On the specific reference to Celtic FC, one of many clubs referenced in the final report, the Review in actual fact states clearly that the club has gone to great lengths to address any past contacts between the club and Celtic Boys Club - and have done so effectively. This is welcomed by the Review and welcomed within the review."

Will today's - and other recent - revelations will have him updating his comments?

More importantly, will they force him and his chums to revise the Final Report?
 
On the 27th Feb this year, Martin Henry said this -

On the specific reference to Celtic FC, one of many clubs referenced in the final report, the Review in actual fact states clearly that the club has gone to great lengths to address any past contacts between the club and Celtic Boys Club - and have done so effectively. This is welcomed by the Review and welcomed within the review."

Will today's - and other recent - revelations will have him updating his comments?

More importantly, will they force him and his chums to revise the Final Report?



The club has gone to great lengths to cover this up and ignore the victims, and have done so effectively with the help of the media.
 
The East end cesspit needs closed down, it has polluted football in this country for decades. The name changing ,denials and distortion of events is despicable. Hiding behind non disclosure agreements sickening. The torment continues for victims and their families . Who associated with this organisation past or present can honestly believe the magnitude of abuse carried out? Nothing,the Celtic way indeed.
 
Only a matter of time now until the Daily Record release a story on how Celtic have beaten the likes of Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Chelsea to having the best food kiosks/badge/atmosphere in Europe as voted by some foreign newspaper.
"Celtic FC are the world's most treasured subbutteo team. Subbutteo fanatics from all over the world voted the treble treble kings as their favourite team ahead of giants like Real Madrid and Barcelona. In other news, Celtic have denied links to an east coast feeder club which is accused of child abuse. "It's another separate entity" said a spokesman for the parkhead club.
 
Wow. First I've heard of this BB.

So who do SFA choose to investigate abuse? Martin Henry who just happened to work at LGBT Youth Scotland beside James Rennie convicted with Neil Strachan as part of largest ever paedophile ring.

Martin Henry who could not see that the colleague he worked beside for 3 years was an abuser. Despite his works computers being used!

Does anyone think the SFA enquiry with its specially handpicked investigator will find anything?
 


Celtic FC created and funded a second feeder club which became embroiled in its own child abuse scandal, The Times can reveal.


The Parkhead club has repeatedly distanced itself from systemic abuse at Celtic Boys Club in which four members, including the founder, Jim Torbett, were convicted of molesting dozens of children over four decades.


Now evidence has emerged that Celtic FC was behind the launch of a second youth feeder club in Edinburgh, called Celtic East Youth Club.


In 1997 Neil Strachan, the secretary of Celtic East, was jailed for sexually assaulting a young boy and gained further notoriety when he was exposed as the ringleader of Scotland’s worst organised abuse network.


Celtic FC has always denied any formal connection with the Edinburgh club, which no longer exists, when Strachan was convicted.


However, official documents show that it oversaw the launch and provided money as well as coaching staff.


The creation of the east coast feeder side was announced in the Celtic View, the club magazine, in May 1989. It confirmed that the venture was being overseen by Benny Rooney, a youth development officer with Celtic FC.


“Celtic are currently in the process of setting up a Celtic Boys Club based in Edinburgh which will cater for all east coast youngsters,” it said.


“The new club will be known as the Celtic East Youth Club. The boys club will be run along the same lines as their excellent counterpart in the west run by Frank Cairney, Jim Torbett and their men.” It adds: “Celtic would help out with the initial costs and Benny himself will be helping out with coaching at the beginning.”


A report on the club’s first game was featured in a Celtic FC matchday programme three months later.


Strachan became a long-serving club official and referee despite being convicted of an indecent assault on a child in 1985, when he was 17. In 1997 he resigned from Celtic East after he was convicted of sexually assaulting a boy and sentenced to three years in jail.


After his release Strachan tried to rape an 18-month-old boy on Hogmanay 2005 and took a photograph of the incident.


Strachan, now 52, was at the heart of an organised abuse network, photographing his attacks and trading them with others. Detectives recovered 7,400 images and a succession of emails which were so graphic that experienced investigators were offered counselling.


Eight men were convicted in 2009 for their part in what police described as the “largest paedophile network dismantled in Scotland”.


They included Strachan’s co-conspirator James Rennie, now 49, who was chief executive of the charity LGBT Youth Scotland and used the name “kp[kid porn]lover99”. Both men are serving life sentences.


Torbett is two years into a six-year sentence for abusing boys between 1986 and 1994, having also been jailed in 1998 for molesting players at the feeder club between 1967 and 1974.


While expressing sympathy for his victims, Celtic has sought to distance itself from Torbett’s crimes, insisting the boys’ club was an “entirely separate organisation”. The club did not respond to a request for comment yesterday.
What is it with this mob and raping wee boys?
 
For those really in the know would it and with the plethora of new information being uncovered almost on a daily basis - would it be a stretch to say that Celtic FC were involved in what is probably the biggest peadophile ring in Scottish history ?
I think you're being a bit kind to them,not just scottish history, it's more like the biggest pedophile ring in sporting history.
 
My greatest fear here is that, despite the daily drip feed of sordid revelations, the hard work of those involved in this thread, the involvement of the Times newspaper, there is no big break through in terms of getting the justice the victims deserve! The will to defeat justice appears to be everywhere in Scotland today with the Government, the football authorities and the compliant press all playing their part in supressing a national scandal surrounding this sordid football club.
I genuinely thought this year would see the end of this with some form of acceptance of guilt, appropriate punishment,contrition and the victims rightly compensated in terms of justice (not just cash etc) I hope those on here who are still confident that this will happen are correct in their views but I must confess to a nagging doubt that this will just drag on in such a way that nothing is ever finalised.
Apologies if that sounds defeatist but it is a feeling that gnaws a way at me
 
Everything being equal you would assume the tsunami of disclosures being presented the dam was about to burst. Rather than addressing the elephant in the room, hollicom and the compliant press lackeys will continue to cream over sporting achievements of everything Celtic. Day of reckoning beckoning !
a classic case of ,look over there,dont look over here,but hollicom and the enablers press fan boys are sat there with their fingers in the dyke,
 
Does this weapon just ignore all questions relating to the CFC/CBC systemic abuse being perpetrated over decades? Completely unacceptable for a Justice Minister that is meant to seek justice for all.
The sleazy bastard's not capable of protecting children. It's reprehensible, he needs to be exposed and he needs to be hunted out of office.
I've been tweeting him every single tweet from Gordon woods and Michelle gray and every picture and article printed on here.....not even a hint of a reply....guy is a twat....hopefully he will be held accountable for his failure to do his job
 
Does this weapon just ignore all questions relating to the CFC/CBC systemic abuse being perpetrated over decades? Completely unacceptable for a Justice Minister that is meant to seek justice for all.
The sleazy bastard's not capable of protecting children. It's reprehensible, he needs to be exposed and he needs to be hunted out of office.
I don't know the procedures of the Scottish parliament but in Australia there's question time for an hour every day when ministers have to answer questions from opposition and crossbench MPs. Maybe one or two of them could be encouraged to put this toe-rag under some pressure?
 
So who do SFA choose to investigate abuse? Martin Henry who just happened to work at LGBT Youth Scotland beside James Rennie convicted with Neil Strachan as part of largest ever paedophile ring.

Martin Henry who could not see that the colleague he worked beside for 3 years was an abuser. Despite his works computers being used!

Does anyone think the SFA enquiry with its specially handpicked investigator will find anything?

The conflict of interest renders any report he submits as tainted. Simple as that.
 
Martin Henry being picked to head this investigation and he didn't know about the other two Rennie and Strachan when he worked with them, this is another sham of an investigation and will discover nothing of significance, that's why he's been chosen to cover up, not expose.
The whole of the administrators of the game in Scotland are rotten to the core, they should be removed and disbanded, it reeks to high heaven.
 
Lawell may be a clever man by not having emails or recorded calls linking him to SPFL shenanigans and pulling Doncaster's strings...

But his two words "seperate entity" will bite him on the arse
Does anyone on FF with any legal knowledge know how viable this separate entity defence is? It would seem to me that sheer amount of articles and other evidence linking CFC and CBC is overwhelming along with the fact the club clearly benefited from CBC. Celtic clearly have legal advice that are not linked with CBC.

I’m conscious of the fact that legal outcomes don’t necessarily follow what the ordinary man in the street feels is obvious or common sense.

Is it simply a case of the “separate entity” defence was used when they didn’t feel there was any legacy documentary evidence to the contrary out there, and now it’s a case of baton down the hatches till it blows over or are they holding on to some financial/business documentation that proves their case?

If they can prove that they are separate then they will have no case to answer which scares the shit out of me.
 
Wtf is the author if this piece trying to imply in the 2nd last paragraph? Divisions? There's only one fucking religion that feels the need to separate their kind from the mainstream at the tender age of 5. Break down those barriers,and your sectarian problems will severely dilute in a short space of time. If they want parity then they need to integrate ,starting with schooling.
 
My greatest fear here is that, despite the daily drip feed of sordid revelations, the hard work of those involved in this thread, the involvement of the Times newspaper, there is no big break through in terms of getting the justice the victims deserve! The will to defeat justice appears to be everywhere in Scotland today with the Government, the football authorities and the compliant press all playing their part in supressing a national scandal surrounding this sordid football club.
I genuinely thought this year would see the end of this with some form of acceptance of guilt, appropriate punishment,contrition and the victims rightly compensated in terms of justice (not just cash etc) I hope those on here who are still confident that this will happen are correct in their views but I must confess to a nagging doubt that this will just drag on in such a way that nothing is ever finalised.
Apologies if that sounds defeatist but it is a feeling that gnaws a way at me

unfortunately justice does not just happen overnight but trust me,the evidence mounting up behind the scenes is almost of avalanche proportions and once revealed in its fullest,will engulf this cesspit of depravity and take all involved with it.....it is coming as sure as an exocet missile and they can't do %^*& all about it.
 
Does anyone on FF with any legal knowledge know how viable this separate entity defence is? It would seem to me that sheer amount of articles and other evidence linking CFC and CBC is overwhelming along with the fact the club clearly benefited from CBC. Celtic clearly have legal advice that are not linked with CBC.

I’m conscious of the fact that legal outcomes don’t necessarily follow what the ordinary man in the street feels is obvious or common sense.

Is it simply a case of the “separate entity” defence was used when they didn’t feel there was any legacy documentary evidence to the contrary out there, and now it’s a case of baton down the hatches till it blows over or are they holding on to some financial/business documentation that proves their case?

If they can prove that they are separate then they will have no case to answer which scares the shit out of me.


we have numerous documentary evidence of the boys club being linked to the main club in black and white print and video also ,ironic that most of it is self inflicted ,which is nice.....there is no sands deep enough for them to bury their heads into anymore.....justice is coming along in its own time.
 
Does anyone on FF with any legal knowledge know how viable this separate entity defence is? It would seem to me that sheer amount of articles and other evidence linking CFC and CBC is overwhelming along with the fact the club clearly benefited from CBC. Celtic clearly have legal advice that are not linked with CBC.

I’m conscious of the fact that legal outcomes don’t necessarily follow what the ordinary man in the street feels is obvious or common sense.

Is it simply a case of the “separate entity” defence was used when they didn’t feel there was any legacy documentary evidence to the contrary out there, and now it’s a case of baton down the hatches till it blows over or are they holding on to some financial/business documentation that proves their case?

If they can prove that they are separate then they will have no case to answer which scares the shit out of me.

Think we would have heard from the paedo by now......Anyways You just need to look at the evidence against them to realise what shit faces them
 
Martin Henry being picked to head this investigation and he didn't know about the other two Rennie and Strachan when he worked with them, this is another sham of an investigation and will discover nothing of significance, that's why he's been chosen to cover up, not expose.
The whole of the administrators of the game in Scotland are rotten to the core, they should be removed and disbanded, it reeks to high heaven.

They are hand picked & corrupt.
 


Celtic FC created and funded a second feeder club which became embroiled in its own child abuse scandal, The Times can reveal.


The Parkhead club has repeatedly distanced itself from systemic abuse at Celtic Boys Club in which four members, including the founder, Jim Torbett, were convicted of molesting dozens of children over four decades.


Now evidence has emerged that Celtic FC was behind the launch of a second youth feeder club in Edinburgh, called Celtic East Youth Club.


In 1997 Neil Strachan, the secretary of Celtic East, was jailed for sexually assaulting a young boy and gained further notoriety when he was exposed as the ringleader of Scotland’s worst organised abuse network.


Celtic FC has always denied any formal connection with the Edinburgh club, which no longer exists, when Strachan was convicted.


However, official documents show that it oversaw the launch and provided money as well as coaching staff.


The creation of the east coast feeder side was announced in the Celtic View, the club magazine, in May 1989. It confirmed that the venture was being overseen by Benny Rooney, a youth development officer with Celtic FC.


“Celtic are currently in the process of setting up a Celtic Boys Club based in Edinburgh which will cater for all east coast youngsters,” it said.


“The new club will be known as the Celtic East Youth Club. The boys club will be run along the same lines as their excellent counterpart in the west run by Frank Cairney, Jim Torbett and their men.” It adds: “Celtic would help out with the initial costs and Benny himself will be helping out with coaching at the beginning.”


A report on the club’s first game was featured in a Celtic FC matchday programme three months later.


Strachan became a long-serving club official and referee despite being convicted of an indecent assault on a child in 1985, when he was 17. In 1997 he resigned from Celtic East after he was convicted of sexually assaulting a boy and sentenced to three years in jail.


After his release Strachan tried to rape an 18-month-old boy on Hogmanay 2005 and took a photograph of the incident.


Strachan, now 52, was at the heart of an organised abuse network, photographing his attacks and trading them with others. Detectives recovered 7,400 images and a succession of emails which were so graphic that experienced investigators were offered counselling.


Eight men were convicted in 2009 for their part in what police described as the “largest paedophile network dismantled in Scotland”.


They included Strachan’s co-conspirator James Rennie, now 49, who was chief executive of the charity LGBT Youth Scotland and used the name “kp[kid porn]lover99”. Both men are serving life sentences.


Torbett is two years into a six-year sentence for abusing boys between 1986 and 1994, having also been jailed in 1998 for molesting players at the feeder club between 1967 and 1974.


While expressing sympathy for his victims, Celtic has sought to distance itself from Torbett’s crimes, insisting the boys’ club was an “entirely separate organisation”. The club did not respond to a request for comment yesterday.

An 18 month old boy ffs. I am struggling with this now. That has made me feel physically sick. Scum bastards.
 
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