Bumplittledipper
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He's been on a bender since AugustJeezo Steve, it's took you till the end of the season to realize that the refs in Scotland are fekking dire, just watch all our games back this season
He's been on a bender since AugustJeezo Steve, it's took you till the end of the season to realize that the refs in Scotland are fekking dire, just watch all our games back this season
So that should be a minimum 1 match ban, at least Gerrard had the decency to speak to the ref directly and not to the media....
HahahajaAw, for fucks sake cheer up Stevie Clarke.
McLean's got a dad?Killie boss said McLean's performance was the worst he has ever seen after his side had three players sent off in their defeat to Aberdeen.
Steve Clarke let fly at referee Steven McLean after Kilmarnock had three players sent off in a stormy defeat to Aberdeen .
Kirk Broadfoot, Rory McKenzie and Stuart Findlay all saw red and the Dons took full advantage with Scott McKenna's second half headers securing three points which sees them jump above their hosts into third.
Clarke was seething afterwards, risking an SFA ban as he gave his opinion on the afternoon's events. And he suggested McLean - whose father played for Kilmarnock - would be better not to officiate at a match at Rugby Park again.
He said: "The game was absolutely brutal, there was no football. Broadfoot’s red was a genuine attempt for the ball. We will appeal it. No complaints for Findlay’s. Looks like nothing from McKenzie, we will appeal that one too.
“I told the referee it’s the worst referee performance I’ve ever seen in my career. He lost control of the game, his job is to control the game - he didn’t do that.
"I think he feels the pressure because his dad played so many games at Kilmarnock.
“I think it would be better for Steven and Kilmarnock if he didn’t referee a game here ever again.
“It was a difficult game, but a good referee could have handled it.”
Correct broHe knows he won’t be employed in Scotland for much longer me thinks.......
I think Clarke will go back South in the Summer he’s not mentally strong enough to be up here.
Employed by Scotland if the rumours are trueHe knows he won’t be employed in Scotland for much longer me thinks.......
How would you be able to tell the difference between the whining plane and Clarke whiningI’d happily run him to the airport, sick fed up of the whining cûnt
To be fair this time around I kind of agree with him, although I’d say McLean shouldn’t be allowed to referee again full stop!I’d happily run him to the airport, sick fed up of the whining cûnt
Clarke really is a despicable rat lady's front bottomKillie boss said McLean's performance was the worst he has ever seen after his side had three players sent off in their defeat to Aberdeen.
Steve Clarke let fly at referee Steven McLean after Kilmarnock had three players sent off in a stormy defeat to Aberdeen .
Kirk Broadfoot, Rory McKenzie and Stuart Findlay all saw red and the Dons took full advantage with Scott McKenna's second half headers securing three points which sees them jump above their hosts into third.
Clarke was seething afterwards, risking an SFA ban as he gave his opinion on the afternoon's events. And he suggested McLean - whose father played for Kilmarnock - would be better not to officiate at a match at Rugby Park again.
He said: "The game was absolutely brutal, there was no football. Broadfoot’s red was a genuine attempt for the ball. We will appeal it. No complaints for Findlay’s. Looks like nothing from McKenzie, we will appeal that one too.
“I told the referee it’s the worst referee performance I’ve ever seen in my career. He lost control of the game, his job is to control the game - he didn’t do that.
"I think he feels the pressure because his dad played so many games at Kilmarnock.
“I think it would be better for Steven and Kilmarnock if he didn’t referee a game here ever again.
“It was a difficult game, but a good referee could have handled it.”
Right and wrong.These kind of threads make me want to pull my hair out.
Clarke is no friend of Rangers and yet has raised the exact same issue as Rangers fans, players and the manager - that the refereeing in the country is not up to scratch.
Rather than agree the overwhelming consensus is to mock him for the same expressions of frustration that we've all shown throughout this season.
That'll be Clarke having a go at the same ref who fucked our game against Hibs? And had a mare in last year's league cup semi?
I think most fans like to ignore criticism of refs by other managers because they like to think that bad refereeing affects us only. It couldn't be further from the truth.
This is it exactly he's offHe knows he won’t be employed in Scotland for much longer me thinks.......
This is it exactly he's offHe knows he won’t be employed in Scotland for much longer me thinks.......
Right and wrong.
Because they are incompetent useless bstrds in the occasional tight game for others doesn't get them off the hook in our matches.
No one will care about what Clarke says and the whole story will move on quickly regardless of what Clarke says today.
If however, this match had involved Rangers and there was even 30% of the decisions irritating Clarke and Rangers had benefitted from those decisions, the story would dominate the pages of our papers and blight our television screens for the rest of the week, and believe me, the referee really would be under severe debilitating scrutiny.
His entire private life would soon be a matter of social media and national debate.
But if you don't accept this then what can any of us do or say?
Any point he made was ruined by bringing the guys dad into it. . If he’s a poor ref then call it out but don’t try and draw a line when the only evidence you have is your own opinion. His dreadful performance should be enough.These kind of threads make me want to pull my hair out.
Clarke is no friend of Rangers and yet has raised the exact same issue as Rangers fans, players and the manager - that the refereeing in the country is not up to scratch.
Rather than agree the overwhelming consensus is to mock him for the same expressions of frustration that we've all shown throughout this season.
That'll be Clarke having a go at the same ref who fucked our game against Hibs? And had a mare in last year's league cup semi?
I think most fans like to ignore criticism of refs by other managers because they like to think that bad refereeing affects us only. It couldn't be further from the truth.
It isn't at all noteworthy.I never said I wouldn't accept it.
I also never refereed to the media.
The issue here is that Clarke is raging at the same referee EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US was raging with two months ago. That's pretty noteworthy.
It isn't at all noteworthy.
The guy is a serial complainer.
He isn't indeed a default canary in any mine.
Instead, he is just white noise.
He is actually non stop white noise.
However, we ourselves have to ignore the white noise because it could easily deflect from a genuine issue.
This season isn't about bad referees, ... for us, it is about a football environment where bad referees are that much worse because they are working in fear of a much more insidious influence than their own mere incompetence, that of a real fear of negative public scrutiny and opprobrium if they are ever to give a controversial decision in favour of Rangers.
The result of this is, of course, they naturally come down upon the side of the decision that avoids this.
That means that Rangers get refereed differently than other clubs, and that has a huge impact on Rangers as a successful football team, that is a real and existential problem for us and that is something that can be proved by naked facts backed up by neutral statistics.
Do you accept that?
I can't be bothered to trawl back through my previous posts, but just off the top of my head, it was you who made a total tit of yourself.I don't disagree for a moment that Rangers are refereed to different standards - but you'll remember that from last week, where you made a bit of a tit of yourself in your assumptions and disingenuous statements in a previous conversation about refs.
I note that your criteria for the football environment is that refs are less likely to give us "controversial decisions." Probably true. I'd argue that's far, far less important than the "obvious" decisions we should have got this year and didn't mainly through the incompetence of referees that have come in for criticism from a lot more than just Gerrard and Clarke.
I can't be bothered to trawl back through my previous posts, but just off the top of my head, it was you who made a total tit of yourself.
You start off trying to ridicule any Bears who feel that the matter in the discussion is worthy of suspicion, then you eventually accede certain unassailable points by attacking the individual rather than the facts.
I think I called you out to explain the disparity in decisions this season, (but I confess it may have been a mate of yours) and guess what you couldn't.
But of course, I am a tit for calling you out.
Just answer this.
Give a balanced measure of decisions that we have had against us this season and then show me where it is evened out by decisions that have gone for us.
A simple question, which if I recall you demurred from addressing.
Or was that your mate?
I confess there are people on this forum determined to press the point that we have been refereed fairly this season.
Why am I surprised at this?
It isn't as if the national press are any different.
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Referee aside, Clarke complaining that no football was played is genuinely quite laughable.
Neither of them have any interest in playing football when playing us, the tims and the other bigger sides. So it’s hardly a surprise that they’ve both done it to each other yesterday and it’s led to a truly awful game.
You hear a lot about the quality of Scottish football improving, not for me. There’s very, very little quality in the league outside of the big 2, just a lot of semi well organised teams trying not to concede goals. Absolute guff.