Crazy argument with a Leeds fan last night.....

Coza

Well-Known Member
Simple question of “some results for Rangers and Celtic in Europe this week?” from me - this person has regularly stated they think both of us are top end division one teams in England at best. So yes I was baiting them.

Got the usual ‘didn’t watch it’, ‘diddy competition against crap clubs no one has heard of’. Usually back and forwards about Porto in CL last year etc. But there really was no debating with this clown. ‘Leeds would romp that Europa group’. The highlights of this throbber were the following;

- Morelos is a donkey and a madman.

- Not one rangers player would get in the Leeds team.

- championship is the 5th best league in Europe.

- Gerrard will jump from rangers as soon as a championship club shows any kind of interest.

And the absolute fucking astonishgly brilliant (to quote another madman) cherry on the cake was...........

Rangers went bust anyway, Leeds didn’t.

I actually had to explain to a Leeds fan and season ticket holder they went through the exact same insolvency event as we did. They denied this and said “it can’t be true as you had to start at the bottom league again and we didn’t”. Absolute frightening naivety from a dyed in the wool fan who is a doctor and obviously not thick yet was spouting this pish.

I don’t know how bears on here live down in England. I really couldn’t handle such utter morons continually comparing us to absolute dross down there they claim are big clubs.
 

grascots

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Official Ticketer
Simple question of “some results for Rangers and Celtic in Europe this week?” from me - this person has regularly stated they think both of us are top end division one teams in England at best. So yes I was baiting them.

Got the usual ‘didn’t watch it’, ‘diddy competition against crap clubs no one has heard of’. Usually back and forwards about Porto in CL last year etc. But there really was no debating with this clown. ‘Leeds would romp that Europa group’. The highlights of this throbber were the following;

- Morelos is a donkey and a madman.

- Not one rangers player would get in the Leeds team.

- championship is the 5th best league in Europe.

- Gerrard will jump from rangers as soon as a championship club shows any kind of interest.

And the absolute fucking astonishgly brilliant (to quote another madman) cherry on the cake was...........

Rangers went bust anyway, Leeds didn’t.

I actually had to explain to a Leeds fan and season ticket holder they went through the exact same insolvency event as we did. They denied this and said “it can’t be true as you had to start at the bottom league again and we didn’t”. Absolute frightening naivety from a dyed in the wool fan who is a doctor and obviously not thick yet was spouting this pish.

I don’t know how bears on here live down in England. I really couldn’t handle such utter morons continually comparing us to absolute dross down there they claim are big clubs.
Simple question of “some results for Rangers and Celtic in Europe this week?” from me - this person has regularly stated they think both of us are top end division one teams in England at best. So yes I was baiting them.

Got the usual ‘didn’t watch it’, ‘diddy competition against crap clubs no one has heard of’. Usually back and forwards about Porto in CL last year etc. But there really was no debating with this clown. ‘Leeds would romp that Europa group’. The highlights of this throbber were the following;

- Morelos is a donkey and a madman.

- Not one rangers player would get in the Leeds team.

- championship is the 5th best league in Europe.

- Gerrard will jump from rangers as soon as a championship club shows any kind of interest.

And the absolute fucking astonishgly brilliant (to quote another madman) cherry on the cake was...........

Rangers went bust anyway, Leeds didn’t.

I actually had to explain to a Leeds fan and season ticket holder they went through the exact same insolvency event as we did. They denied this and said “it can’t be true as you had to start at the bottom league again and we didn’t”. Absolute frightening naivety from a dyed in the wool fan who is a doctor and obviously not thick yet was spouting this pish.

I don’t know how bears on here live down in England. I really couldn’t handle such utter morons continually comparing us to absolute dross down there they claim are big clubs.
I live in England (Plymouth) and also forms s fair bit of time in the Midlands with work.
I have never come across that level of ignorance. In fact I have found the opposite. Lots of Wolves fans in my work thinking if we drew them in the EL that it would be a cracking draw and think it could go either way.
 

Valley Bluenose

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Send him this, from his local paper. They went bust in 2007 and the liquidation was completed THIS YEAR.


Also, the Championship isn’t the ‘5th best league in Europe’ in terms of ability. It may well be the 5th richest in terms of finances, but that’s a completely different measure,

EDIT: From a Rangers perspective, interesting to note that despite the lengthy process Leeds liquidation only resulted in fees of £1m for the Liquidators. Ours cost are astronomical in comparison.
 

Bowery Boy

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Send him this. They went bust in 2007 and the liquidation was completed THIS YEAR.


Also, the Championship isn’t the ‘5th best league in Europe’ in terms of ability. It may well be the 5th richest in terms of finances, but that’s a completely different measure,
The general standard of the championship is garbage. It is certainly competitive and gruelling due to its size and schedule but the overall quality isn't anywhere near what they think it is.
 

mark hateley

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What would a Leeds fan know about European football in fairness
They were runners up in the 70s and wom the intertoto cup twice in the 60s and 70s.

They also got to the semis of the CL in 2001 odd I think.

But anyone under 45 wouldn't remember them in europe apart from that season nearly 20 years ago.

Leeds are not exactly setting the heather on fire since they were relegated made insolvent and came back up. They seem to have stalled at their level.
 

helicopter-sunday

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We would take Leeds apart with this current team, and that's without the finances that are on offer down in England.

When you see some of the shite in the English Premier League, it really is hard to believe how they big up their game so much.

Sheffield Utd and Brighton are top half ffs.

Burnley, Bournemouth, Newcastle, Southampton, Watford, Norwich, Palace. Don't tell me they'd finish above us given level finances.
 

Yankeeger

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Simple question of “some results for Rangers and Celtic in Europe this week?” from me - this person has regularly stated they think both of us are top end division one teams in England at best. So yes I was baiting them.

Got the usual ‘didn’t watch it’, ‘diddy competition against crap clubs no one has heard of’. Usually back and forwards about Porto in CL last year etc. But there really was no debating with this clown. ‘Leeds would romp that Europa group’. The highlights of this throbber were the following;

- Morelos is a donkey and a madman.

- Not one rangers player would get in the Leeds team.

- championship is the 5th best league in Europe.

- Gerrard will jump from rangers as soon as a championship club shows any kind of interest.

And the absolute fucking astonishgly brilliant (to quote another madman) cherry on the cake was...........

Rangers went bust anyway, Leeds didn’t.

I actually had to explain to a Leeds fan and season ticket holder they went through the exact same insolvency event as we did. They denied this and said “it can’t be true as you had to start at the bottom league again and we didn’t”. Absolute frightening naivety from a dyed in the wool fan who is a doctor and obviously not thick yet was spouting this pish.

I don’t know how bears on here live down in England. I really couldn’t handle such utter morons continually comparing us to absolute dross down there they claim are big clubs.

Cool story bro
 

Steveger

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To be fair it depends what mood the Rangers team is in when we turn up or don't turn up, In Europe we look fantastic at times and we'd beat most if not all championship teams and a good chunk of premiership teams, but if the lazy withdrawn can't be arsed Rangers turn up then we could get a lucky draw at Barnsley.
 

Blu_ultra

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The ignorance of the average English football supporter is astonishing. They seem to equate quality with revenues. There is no way that Leeds could compete with Porto/Feyenoord or Lazio. How many of the Leeds team are internationals? How many have won a major trophy? They have a very modest average crowd, haven't won anything for years and play in the 2nd tier.
 

Walterego

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Official Ticketer
I’ve lived and worked in England for a long time now.
Work all over and have only found Leeds to be generally unfriendly and have a false sense of importance.
Leeds would get beat home and away by this Rangers team. Same as the last time and probably by a more convincing margin.
 

Coza

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Send him this, from his local paper. They went bust in 2007 and the liquidation was completed THIS YEAR.


Also, the Championship isn’t the ‘5th best league in Europe’ in terms of ability. It may well be the 5th richest in terms of finances, but that’s a completely different measure,

EDIT: From a Rangers perspective, interesting to note that despite the lengthy process Leeds liquidation only resulted in fees of £1m for the Liquidators. Ours cost are astronomical in comparison.
I pointed out to said doctor I was an accountant who paid unbelievable attention to the goings on for rangers and as a result had read up on Leeds etc down south. I gave them a step by step summary of why events were near identical including sending them companies house screenshots of 2007. Think once I had utterly destroyed them they just moved onto how Leeds would hammer us. It was laughable.

I checked last night. 6th richest league in Europe. But as I said to them it’s above the Dutch league yet take 10 teams from Holland and 10 championship teams. Form a 20 team league and play it out. Top 4 positions are Dutch clubs and they would dominate the top ten. Money doesn’t mean better. They accepted Ajax would win it ‘just’ but they thought top ten would be English clubs.
 

Recoba

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Official Ticketer
An Ally McCoist 3rd division outfit and a clueless Pedro team destroyed Championship Bristol City and Sheffield Wednesday in friendlies
Exactly, and we took care of Derby and Wigan easily in the summer

They are not on our level and that includes the teams at the top of the Championship
 

Valley Bluenose

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I pointed out to said doctor I was an accountant who paid unbelievable attention to the goings on for rangers and as a result had read up on Leeds etc down south. I gave them a step by step summary of why events were near identical including sending them companies house screenshots of 2007. Think once I had utterly destroyed them they just moved onto how Leeds would hammer us. It was laughable.

I checked last night. 6th richest league in Europe. But as I said to them it’s above the Dutch league yet take 10 teams from Holland and 10 championship teams. Form a 20 team league and play it out. Top 4 positions are Dutch clubs and they would dominate the top ten. Money doesn’t mean better. They accepted Ajax would win it ‘just’ but they thought top ten would be English clubs.
They are either idiots - though their profession suggests otherwise - or they have to be winding you up. Nobody is that stupid and able to function as a Doctor surely?

Then again...
 

gersandproud

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Simple question of “some results for Rangers and Celtic in Europe this week?” from me - this person has regularly stated they think both of us are top end division one teams in England at best. So yes I was baiting them.

Got the usual ‘didn’t watch it’, ‘diddy competition against crap clubs no one has heard of’. Usually back and forwards about Porto in CL last year etc. But there really was no debating with this clown. ‘Leeds would romp that Europa group’. The highlights of this throbber were the following;

- Morelos is a donkey and a madman.

- Not one rangers player would get in the Leeds team.

- championship is the 5th best league in Europe.

- Gerrard will jump from rangers as soon as a championship club shows any kind of interest.

And the absolute fucking astonishgly brilliant (to quote another madman) cherry on the cake was...........

Rangers went bust anyway, Leeds didn’t.

I actually had to explain to a Leeds fan and season ticket holder they went through the exact same insolvency event as we did. They denied this and said “it can’t be true as you had to start at the bottom league again and we didn’t”. Absolute frightening naivety from a dyed in the wool fan who is a doctor and obviously not thick yet was spouting this pish.

I don’t know how bears on here live down in England. I really couldn’t handle such utter morons continually comparing us to absolute dross down there they claim are big clubs.
I've had 37 years of it mate & it doesn't get any better - in fact it's been worse the last few years

However it does get easier to spot those that know what they're talking about & those that only employ wind-up tactics to hide their lack of knnowledge - your quack friend is obviously in the 2nd camp
 

cooprfc

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Rangers, and Celtic for that matter, would finish top two in the Championship easily. They'd both probably set record points. It's a ridiculously poor league overhyped beyond belief.

I'd go as far as to say there's a few SPFL clubs who would comfortably stay in that division too. Filled with dross.
 
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