Dalglish worries about potential stripping of titles awarded

Kaiser

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There can be no other answer here.
Any reason offered for bringing the season to an early close, is now debunked on the spot.
There really was no need for this.
If we’d kept playing, chances are that they’d have won the league, on the park.
So, was there another external influence at play here?
Like a substantial bonus from New Balance that had a completion date?
Or likely that their new super duper retail deal was dependent upon winning NIAR as they would issue a commemorative mhanky rag?
 

eastneuk56

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Legendary striker Kenny Dalglish has admitted concern that a positive judgement for Hearts and Partick Thistle in their legal battle with the SPFL could lead to a challenge over titles awarded last season.

The M8 alliance will shortly face SFA arbitration to decide the legality of their forced relegation with eight games still to play.

Three arbitrators from a legal background will go through the SPFL decision making process to relegate the two clubs and decide what restitution, if any, should be made.

And Dalglish is concerned that if the clubs get a favourable judgement and relegation is scrapped, it could end up causing challenges to "null and void" titles won by Celtic, Dundee United, Raith Rovers and Cove Rangers.

He told The Sunday Post : "If the judgment goes in favour of the clubs, then good luck to them.

"Their endeavour and fight against the SPFL will have led them to getting the result they wanted.

"But such a ruling may well open the door to many, many decisions in the SPFL’s four divisions being called into question.

"For example, if the relegation of Hearts from the Premiership, and Thistle from the Championship, is ruled to be unlawful, what’s to stop a club challenging the outcome at the top of the table as well?

"What’s to stop them asking that any titles given before the fixture schedule had been completed should also be ruled null and void?

"The argument would be that the same rules must apply to every place in the league, and not just the issue of relegation.

"The same applies to the handing out of European places.

"The past few weeks have been bad enough for the reputation of Scottish football.

"But this scenario could lead to our game becoming absolutely chaotic.

"Everything could well all end up in the air, and lead to even more legal challenges.

"It would leave the Premiership’s scheduled start date of August 1 in serious doubt."
Sounds like a plan to me.
 

vinnie

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"For example, if the relegation of Hearts from the Premiership, and Thistle from the Championship, is ruled to be unlawful, what’s to stop a club challenging the outcome at the top of the table as well?
Exactly Kenny! Wonder how many of your tim worshippers have figured this out :))
 

Mind Your Own

Active Member
Null and void was the only option available to ensure that well worn phrase ‘sporting integrity’ was maintained unless the season was played to a finish.

Instead we have witnessed institutional corruption on a grand scale to ‘award’ them the title by hook or by crook.
You are spot on, my friend.
 

vinnie

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Celtic should be stripped of ALL honours won during the paedophile years.
Never figured out how this works tbh.

Such a scandal and crime means trophies won by players - who haven’t yet been proved to be involved or of any other criminal activity resulting in a fixing or unfair advantage because some coaches at a boys club, that were protected by said club - should have titles removed?

Is this just sour grapes over their nonsense whinging about our “ebt years”?

Have we failed as a support to avoid tit for tat with an entity unworthy of our equal?
 

Mind Your Own

Active Member
Never figured out how this works tbh.

Such a scandal and crime means trophies won by players - who haven’t yet been proved to be involved or of any other criminal activity resulting in a fixing or unfair advantage because some coaches at a boys club, that were protected by said club - should have titles removed?

Is this just sour grapes over their nonsense whinging about our “ebt years”?

Have we failed as a support to avoid tit for tat with an entity unworthy of our equal?
What's good for the goose, my friend.
 

Vader

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Pretty much every other league in Europe is completing their season on the pitch. Celtic didn't want to risk that, despite being in a dominant position at the top, and so here we are.
 

The_Irrepressibles

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Of course this is what should happen immediately. Even in Belgium they took the title back automatically when their relegations were deemed illegal.

I don't think the cabal in this country will give it up so easily. Even though it will expose the agenda and hypocricy even more so than it already is now. They have no shame. Their title will be the next seperate entity.
 

Beer Belly Loyal

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Incredible how the Sunday Post narrative is being completely ignored by all the other rags, sweep sweep nothing to see here.

Used to think the Sunday Post was a joke paper, not now.
 

nemessis

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If the dodgy pricks hadn't been so desperate to hand the team they support a title they didn't win we would not have all this going down.
The SPFL deserve all the bad karma they get, more power to Hearts and Partick they are no friends of mine, but deserve to win this one.
 

Morty

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Honestly can you imagine the anger that would be directed at us in the press if this happened..

How dare we the steal the title from the club like no other :rolleyes: Fat Rod would be distraught.
 

StansgRFC

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How ironic it would be for the filth spawned from the depths of hell to have their tainted title stripped.
 

cooprfc

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I'd rather we focused our energies on denying them the CL money.

The actual title is now irrelevant whether it was awarded or is stripped. Its a sham and everyone knows it.
 

Morty

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I'd rather we focused our energies on denying them the CL money.

The actual title is now irrelevant whether it was awarded or is stripped. Its a sham and everyone knows it.
Didn't UEFA say something about awarding of European spots ? Something about sporting integrity?
 

Laudrup11Cooper

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Legendary striker Kenny Dalglish has admitted concern that a positive judgement for Hearts and Partick Thistle in their legal battle with the SPFL could lead to a challenge over titles awarded last season.

The M8 alliance will shortly face SFA arbitration to decide the legality of their forced relegation with eight games still to play.

Three arbitrators from a legal background will go through the SPFL decision making process to relegate the two clubs and decide what restitution, if any, should be made.

And Dalglish is concerned that if the clubs get a favourable judgement and relegation is scrapped, it could end up causing challenges to "null and void" titles won by Celtic, Dundee United, Raith Rovers and Cove Rangers.

He told The Sunday Post : "If the judgment goes in favour of the clubs, then good luck to them.

"Their endeavour and fight against the SPFL will have led them to getting the result they wanted.

"But such a ruling may well open the door to many, many decisions in the SPFL’s four divisions being called into question.

"For example, if the relegation of Hearts from the Premiership, and Thistle from the Championship, is ruled to be unlawful, what’s to stop a club challenging the outcome at the top of the table as well?

"What’s to stop them asking that any titles given before the fixture schedule had been completed should also be ruled null and void?

"The argument would be that the same rules must apply to every place in the league, and not just the issue of relegation.

"The same applies to the handing out of European places.

"The past few weeks have been bad enough for the reputation of Scottish football.

"But this scenario could lead to our game becoming absolutely chaotic.

"Everything could well all end up in the air, and lead to even more legal challenges.

"It would leave the Premiership’s scheduled start date of August 1 in serious doubt."
Correct.
And if they win…we as a club, must challenge the validity of them being awarded a title they didn’t win.
 

cullybear

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What i don't understand is, what was the reason for them not to play out the league and surely win it, given that there was always going to be this asterisk thing or 8 1/2 titles against it?
 

devilman

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I think we can rest assured that no matter what happens the SPFL will not be taking the title off of their masters.
 

1288Bear

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What i don't understand is, what was the reason for them not to play out the league and surely win it, given that there was always going to be this asterisk thing or 8 1/2 titles against it?
Cash - pure and simple.
They have a £60m wage bill that is only sustainable with CL money or selling one or more of their better players. With the chance that the transfer market could collapse as clubs would be struggling financially they didn't want to take the chance.

Remember their manager has thrown away titles from a similarly strong position both as a player and a manager - helicopter Sunday.

They also have the potential compensation claims to cover.

So they need the extra £1m prize money for the title, the CL cash and the money from the tainted 9 merchandise to pay the bills and didn't want to risk either blowing it or UEFA making a decision that wasn't to their liking.
 

EH47

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Legendary striker Kenny Dalglish has admitted concern that a positive judgement for Hearts and Partick Thistle in their legal battle with the SPFL could lead to a challenge over titles awarded last season.

The M8 alliance will shortly face SFA arbitration to decide the legality of their forced relegation with eight games still to play.

Three arbitrators from a legal background will go through the SPFL decision making process to relegate the two clubs and decide what restitution, if any, should be made.

And Dalglish is concerned that if the clubs get a favourable judgement and relegation is scrapped, it could end up causing challenges to "null and void" titles won by Celtic, Dundee United, Raith Rovers and Cove Rangers.

He told The Sunday Post : "If the judgment goes in favour of the clubs, then good luck to them.

"Their endeavour and fight against the SPFL will have led them to getting the result they wanted.

"But such a ruling may well open the door to many, many decisions in the SPFL’s four divisions being called into question.

"For example, if the relegation of Hearts from the Premiership, and Thistle from the Championship, is ruled to be unlawful, what’s to stop a club challenging the outcome at the top of the table as well?

"What’s to stop them asking that any titles given before the fixture schedule had been completed should also be ruled null and void?

"The argument would be that the same rules must apply to every place in the league, and not just the issue of relegation.

"The same applies to the handing out of European places.

"The past few weeks have been bad enough for the reputation of Scottish football.

"But this scenario could lead to our game becoming absolutely chaotic.

"Everything could well all end up in the air, and lead to even more legal challenges.

"It would leave the Premiership’s scheduled start date of August 1 in serious doubt."
And why are you so "concerned" Kenny?
Are you another that doesn't want to see things handled properly, you prat?
 
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