You would have had a better discussion had you not claimed that the Park board “hadn’t delivered anything of note” which frankly is rubbish and, no matter what you said, an unfair criticism. I will always be grateful to King for what he did to save the club. But he made his choices - as was his right - and needs now to stay in the background. Park has achieved a lot in his short time as Chairman - 55, EL and funding have been mentioned by posters - the other, almost as important - was the cinch victory against the SPL and SFA.See that would explain it. It could be Park is just more sensible with money and has a more difficult situation to navigate because of the hand dealt after King left. I thought we could have a conversation about it but clearly FF can’t handle anything that remotely resembles a criticism.
I'd have King - or someone like him - back tomorrow.
He's not perfect, but he is a big, big miss.
Aye, we're really worried about the Parks commitment to the club when they have stumped up £17m in shares and loans.Whether it’s general unrest from the lack of transfer activity or a genuine observation I can’t help but feel that a large section of the support is becoming more and more distrusting of this board.
The 150th celebrations weren’t handled well at all followed by the Australian debacle. Then we’ve had the last 3 transfer windows. I get that this one isn’t finished yet, so it shouldn’t count but you’d have expected some money spent and players in the door by now. Considering the qualifiers. (The 3 since DK left?)
So, why the sudden uptake in bad boardroom decisions and activity? For me it looks like there’s a correlation between the decline of our off-field ability and Dave King leaving.
I just wanted to know what the general opinion is on this and why it’s not really talked about that much? Douglas Park hasn’t delivered anything of note since taking over other than perhaps a noticeable tightening of the purse strings.
I’ll await the “hello Mr King” first reply but to be honest it’s not really a formed opinion just something I’ve been thinking about and would like some more insight on.
'Tight as two coats of paint'. I keep reading this about the same guy. Mind-bogglingAye, we're really worried about the Parks commitment to the club when they have stumped up £17m in shares and loans.
The disturbing part is that I think a lot of them are actually adults.Jeez, the Kerrydale Sabotage Network really are working overtime right now.
How long until the schools are back?
The disturbing part is that I think a lot of them are actually adults.
Well, in the numerical sense.
Didn't King do most of our transfers in installments and we seem to be still paying for some of them.
It might explain the lack of playing squad investment these past 12 months.
All transfers are pretty much done in installments.Didn't King do most of our transfers in installments and we seem to be still paying for some of them.
It might explain the lack of playing squad investment these past 12 months.
Give it a rest ffs!Whether it’s general unrest from the lack of transfer activity or a genuine observation I can’t help but feel that a large section of the support is becoming more and more distrusting of this board.
The 150th celebrations weren’t handled well at all followed by the Australian debacle. Then we’ve had the last 3 transfer windows. I get that this one isn’t finished yet, so it shouldn’t count but you’d have expected some money spent and players in the door by now. Considering the qualifiers. (The 3 since DK left?)
So, why the sudden uptake in bad boardroom decisions and activity? For me it looks like there’s a correlation between the decline of our off-field ability and Dave King leaving.
I just wanted to know what the general opinion is on this and why it’s not really talked about that much? Douglas Park hasn’t delivered anything of note since taking over other than perhaps a noticeable tightening of the purse strings.
I’ll await the “hello Mr King” first reply but to be honest it’s not really a formed opinion just something I’ve been thinking about and would like some more insight on.
I don't know if it's just post admin or not, but certainly ever since then there seems to be a plethora of budding 'accountants' in our mix incapable of understanding a set of accounts.
For some, it seems, a season is just the same as fiscal year. Ie it starts, whatever happens happens, & then come the start of the new season you start from scratch again & nothing that went before it matters.
If only that were true.
If I'm being unfair on the OP then I'll apologise, but he seems to be slanting it in a way that DK no longer being on the board is where the problems have started from.
Again, if only that were true.
DK, in conjunction with the 3 bears, was the right man, at the right time, with the business aggression that we needed. 100%. I wholeheartedly thank him for his contribution.
Whether through choice, or a forcing of his hand, he could no longer invest, although that did not stop him spending the clubs cash.
Now whether that was right or wrong is a matter of opinion, but anyone could surely understand why fellow investors would be at least irked by that, and I really wouldn't blame them for that.
What is also true, is that the initial investment in the playing staff was front loaded. It's a fact.
With the current board we have bears who have invested a significant sum of cash, who have delivered 55, kept together (rightly or wrongly) a squad that reached a European final, plugging the financial holes we've had along the way, dealing with an empty stadium for a year, & finally sorted out the fat bastard as well.
They have also made mistakes during that time, Australia the big one for most I imagine.
I often feel like the people having a go at them must either have selective, short, or childlike memories.
But that's all just my opinion.
...and title 55. A European final. Our first Scottish cup in decades. But other than that....Douglas Park hasn’t delivered anything of note since taking over other than perhaps a noticeable tightening of the purse strings.
Since King left we have seen #55 delivered, a European final followed by our first Scottish cup win in a long time. Then there is the small matter of huge investment brought in to the club and relative financial stability. Our year end has just passed and we will show a profit.Whether it’s general unrest from the lack of transfer activity or a genuine observation I can’t help but feel that a large section of the support is becoming more and more distrusting of this board.
The 150th celebrations weren’t handled well at all followed by the Australian debacle. Then we’ve had the last 3 transfer windows. I get that this one isn’t finished yet, so it shouldn’t count but you’d have expected some money spent and players in the door by now. Considering the qualifiers. (The 3 since DK left?)
So, why the sudden uptake in bad boardroom decisions and activity? For me it looks like there’s a correlation between the decline of our off-field ability and Dave King leaving.
I just wanted to know what the general opinion is on this and why it’s not really talked about that much? Douglas Park hasn’t delivered anything of note since taking over other than perhaps a noticeable tightening of the purse strings.
I’ll await the “hello Mr King” first reply but to be honest it’s not really a formed opinion just something I’ve been thinking about and would like some more insight on.
“Peasant “"Ooh that nice Mr King from up at the manor house - he always raised his hand to wave when I doffed my cap from the gutter as his Rolls drove by ...."
Seriously, can we all stfu about this being a poor transfer window. Our departures if there are any will mostly be going to England which isn’t going to change its time frame fr transfers to suit those from the diddy countries euro qualifiers. Calm the fcuk downWhether it’s general unrest from the lack of transfer activity or a genuine observation I can’t help but feel that a large section of the support is becoming more and more distrusting of this board.
The 150th celebrations weren’t handled well at all followed by the Australian debacle. Then we’ve had the last 3 transfer windows. I get that this one isn’t finished yet, so it shouldn’t count but you’d have expected some money spent and players in the door by now. Considering the qualifiers. (The 3 since DK left?)
So, why the sudden uptake in bad boardroom decisions and activity? For me it looks like there’s a correlation between the decline of our off-field ability and Dave King leaving.
I just wanted to know what the general opinion is on this and why it’s not really talked about that much? Douglas Park hasn’t delivered anything of note since taking over other than perhaps a noticeable tightening of the purse strings.
I’ll await the “hello Mr King” first reply but to be honest it’s not really a formed opinion just something I’ve been thinking about and would like some more insight on.
As helpful as the op, to be fair!Helpful mate.
I think this post shows the purpose of your op.See that would explain it. It could be Park is just more sensible with money and has a more difficult situation to navigate because of the hand dealt after King left. I thought we could have a conversation about it but clearly FF can’t handle anything that remotely resembles a criticism.
It’s not his money though.Dougie park is as tight as two coats of paint I am not surprised we aren’t spending.
Dave King showed how much he values money over Rangers in the league run in as usual he could not keep himself out the papers at a crucial time for the club.Whether it’s general unrest from the lack of transfer activity or a genuine observation I can’t help but feel that a large section of the support is becoming more and more distrusting of this board.
The 150th celebrations weren’t handled well at all followed by the Australian debacle. Then we’ve had the last 3 transfer windows. I get that this one isn’t finished yet, so it shouldn’t count but you’d have expected some money spent and players in the door by now. Considering the qualifiers. (The 3 since DK left?)
So, why the sudden uptake in bad boardroom decisions and activity? For me it looks like there’s a correlation between the decline of our off-field ability and Dave King leaving.
I just wanted to know what the general opinion is on this and why it’s not really talked about that much? Douglas Park hasn’t delivered anything of note since taking over other than perhaps a noticeable tightening of the purse strings.
I’ll await the “hello Mr King” first reply but to be honest it’s not really a formed opinion just something I’ve been thinking about and would like some more insight on.
I'd have King - or someone like him - back tomorrow.
He's not perfect, but he is a big, big miss.
Heard that as well.Dougie park is as tight as two coats of paint I am not surprised we aren’t spending.
Glad you clarified that because we’re definitely looking at child like IQ’s.The disturbing part is that I think a lot of them are actually adults.
Well, in the numerical sense.
That remains to be seen though, does it not?I think the OP has a point.
To have the season we had last season, get compensation for the previous management, the Patterson money and reaching a European final and we are under 4 week away from the first test of the season and we haven’t made any improvements in an ageing and squad that we will be asking to go to the well for the 5th season in a row.
The old saying goes if nothing changes nothing changes.
We are making the same mistakes we seen across the city make in by gone seasons and we laughed at them for it.
We really are taking another gamble.
I second thatI'd have King - or someone like him - back tomorrow.
He's not perfect, but he is a big, big miss.
Yes, £17m, plus, spent by him.Heard that as well.
I’d probably have agreed but, it is he who chose to leave us.I second that
All clubs do transfers in instalmentsDidn't King do most of our transfers in installments and we seem to be still paying for some of them.
It might explain the lack of playing squad investment these past 12 months.
He’s the Chairman he will have a big say In the decision.It’s not his money though.
Also, how much of his own money did he spend to get to this point
King lost £20 million via David Murray 20 years ago which likely equates to £50 million in todays terms.Did King not leave us/Park in a bit of a mess in terms of funding. I seem to remember chat about something like a 25mil funding hole Park had to fill.
Could be talking absolute rubbish.
Its a loan, shares etc.Yes, £17m, plus, spent by him.
Incredibly tight.
Line one, yes I know he’ll have a massive influence but it’s not a dictatorship at the club.He’s the Chairman he will have a big say In the decision.
He’s plenty of money and if it wasn’t for his boys he probably wouldn’t have spent much at all.
Yes, £17m, plus, spent by him.
Incredibly tight.
I’m don’t think King gave Murray £20m to lose.Its a loan, shares etc.
King lost £20 million to Murray , never to be seen again.
In todays money that could be £50 million.
Let’s put it this way, I was about his Hamilton dealership a lot when he had his own office in it one round from the Oden as I say it’s his money his call but he won’t spend a penny he doesn’t have to.Line one, yes I know he’ll have a massive influence but it’s not a dictatorship at the club.
Line two is a bit too subjective and I’m not sure of the answer either way.
They all did it was a big fanfare regardless though both King and ENIC or whatever they were called ploughed a shit load in and never seen another penny King then came back and invested same again if not more because he wanted to put us back on top which he did.I’m don’t think King gave Murray £20m to lose.
I’d have though he’d have seen this as an investment.
Let’s put it this way, I was about his Hamilton dealership a lot when he had his own office in it one round from the Oden as I say it’s his money his call but he won’t spend a penny he doesn’t have to.