No.
Le Guen wanted out about 3 games into the season.
Ferguson didn’t behave like a Rangers captain though.
Le Guen wanted out about 3 games into the season.
Ferguson didn’t behave like a Rangers captain though.
It’s bizarre the abuse Barry Ferguson takes on this board. A proper Rangers legend and a proper Rangers man through and through. He did what needed to be done because Le Guen didn’t understand our club. Similar to Wallace and Miller slaughtering the frauds at Hampden that day, Ferguson got it spot on and deserves way more respect than people give him on here.
It was all smoke and mirrors by Murray. There was never any chance of those players joining us but he was using his friends in the MSM to pull the wool over our eyes.
Turned out Le Guen was not the miracle worker Murray thought. And yes Ferguson contributed to him leaving but he was never ever going to succeed in Scotland, even if he had Sir Walter's or Advocaats teams he just didn't have it.
Looking back it is amazing the success we had after PLG left, considering the amount of downsizing that we were going through at the time.
There was also a rumour that there was a lack of defensive training and all tackling in training was banned.To be a half decent centre back you have to attack balls in the air. Svenson acted as if he was scared to head the ball. Also it helps if you don’t turn your back when the fuckin thing is coming towards you.
Your right about the no tackle training. I remember Phil Bardsley got fined for taking out someone, I think it was Sionko.There was also a rumour that there was a lack of defensive training and all tackling in training was banned.
Correct, Ferguson behaviour throughout his Rangers career is questionable to say the least.Le Guen tried to resign in September 2006, again at start of December then engineered a situation which meant Murray had no choice.
Simply put, he could never have been a good Rangers manager because very quickly he realised he’d made a bad decision and didn’t WANT to be Rangers manager.
This is not to excuse some of Ferguson’s behaviour at the time.
Ferguson was running to his pals in the press at every opportunity. You know the ones that fucking hate us.I’m quite educated on it to be honest, rather than needing a history lesson or to be told how to think about Barry, cheers though
As someone who had to watch and suffer the “Le Guen era” I was delighted by his exit, and Ferguson’s return
Ferguson was right to bury Le Guen, Le Guen went out his way to try and scapegoat him for his own means, as he did with Rae, Le Guen was a shameless arsehole
Le Guens narrative about Ferguson was fairy tail nonsense - it was a total buzz to move on from him.
Ferguson was running to his pals in the press at every opportunity. You know the ones that fucking hate us.
Give me a Richard Gough type captain every day of the week over Ferguson
A proper Rangers legend doesn't get asked to leave the club by our greatest ever manager because of his behaviour when representing our country.It’s bizarre the abuse Barry Ferguson takes on this board. A proper Rangers legend and a proper Rangers man through and through. He did what needed to be done because Le Guen didn’t understand our club. Similar to Wallace and Miller slaughtering the frauds at Hampden that day, Ferguson got it spot on and deserves way more respect than people give him on here.
No issue with him running to people who hate our club? Aye ok thenNo issue with it at that time.
Le Guen was systematically attempting to remove Ferguson to create a scenario where he looked liked a victim for his own ends.
As I said before, he would have sold Ferguson with no idea of a replacement, no idea where the team was going, no plan to stay long term, just simply selling one of our best players for nothing other than to work his own way out the door.
He set after Ferguson for nothing other than to ease his own exit, it was %^*& all to do with a supposed football strategy or want to turn Rangers around.
No issue with him running to people who hate our club? Aye ok then
He was made a scapegoat for what happened on international duty. Is Allan McGregor not a Rangers legend because he was involved in that?A proper Rangers legend doesn't get asked to leave the club by our greatest ever manager because of his behaviour when representing our country.
If you are the captain of Rangers and Scotland it should be the biggest honour in Scottish football , his behaviour was a disgrace and those defending and bring Scott Brown into the argument are an embarrassment. Who wants to compare Scott Brown to any Rangers captain.
A proper Rangers legend doesn't %^*& off to Blackburn 5 weeks after signing a 5 year contract.
A proper Rangers legend wouldn't go running to his Celtic loving pals in the press to tell stories.
DefinitelyIMO he was getting sacked Anyway
He was only with us for about 6 months, he hardly worked his ticket...........he was just a shite manager.PLG had a list of targets iirc.
Murray reneged on his pre-August promises.
PLG worked his ticket.
That’s how I remember it.
Zidane !!!! BwahahahahahaChat of Zidane as well I recall and Sidney Govou was on a plane to Glasgow daily according to the rags.
Whilst I do have a lot of time for Barry, he was happy to leave for Blackburn, before returning 'home'. That will always grate with some.It’s bizarre the abuse Barry Ferguson takes on this board. A proper Rangers legend and a proper Rangers man through and through. He did what needed to be done because Le Guen didn’t understand our club. Similar to Wallace and Miller slaughtering the frauds at Hampden that day, Ferguson got it spot on and deserves way more respect than people give him on here.
His career post-Rangers made a mockery of Speirs' book title on him - "The Enigma." He wasn't an enigma at all. He just got lucky at his first job and dined out on it for a while. It just so happened that the Rangers players who worked with him found that out first.
Whilst I do have a lot of time for Barry, he was happy to leave for Blackburn, before returning 'home'. That will always grate with some.
I always remember Spiers literally jizzing over him and how amazing his management & tactics was for months when as soon as I seen his summer signings I had my doubts. I reckon the stark difference between how little Spiers thought of Gerrard and how much he still loves Le Guen showed how little he knows about football and hes clearly a Celtic supporter.
Also remember how long Le Guen pursued Sebo for and Rangers had to keep uping our bids and ended up one of the worse strikers that we paid money for.
The one part of Speirs' book that is genuinely interesting is the pursuit of Sebo. A comedy of errors.
Speirs' affection for PLG was what probably motivated him to write a book to explain how it went wrong. Unsurprisingly his conclusion isn't that he just wasn't very good.
To be fair, I could out think Bain in a transfer situation I reckon.I'm sure the Austria Vienna GM says something along the lines of him and his board being incredulous at how easy Bain was to manipulate and take the piss out of with the fee.
We started off at £400,000. We ended up paying £1.8m.
To be fair, I could out think Bain in a transfer situation I reckon.
For a so called Rangers legend, I’ve hardly ever seen Ferguson take anything to do with us in the last 10 years.
I'm sure the Austria Vienna GM says something along the lines of him and his board being incredulous at how easy Bain was to manipulate and take the piss out of with the fee.
We started off at £400,000. We ended up paying £1.8m.
In Sunderland till I die, and they’re trying cut the clubs running costs only to find a %^*& off Cryo chamber which costs thousands to run.The other "yep, I could totally believe that" story about Bain and negotiations around that time was when we chased Luciano Figueroa from Rosario Central and the player's agent and the club chairman said he spent more time telling them how expensive his shoes were than he did trying to get the deal over the line
It’s a legit shambles some would have a player like Gaza before him in a “greatest 11” there is no logical or sensible reason for that conversation and I mean that in praise of Ferguson rather than to down talk GazzaIt should be enough, plenty that Ferguson is one of our better individual players and a winning captain.
It should be enough he drove us to some incredible achievements.
It's never enough for some though. Every ex-player somehow needs to be the second coming of Struth or they are cannon fodder for some.
Ferguson went on the pitch and gave us everything week in week out. That should be enough.
Throughout world football there are legends that their clubs don't use their achievements to lambast them. They thank them and don't expect the world from them in retirement.
Only we do that.
I get that as a club we have high standards. But what's the point in them if all we ever do is use them to berate folk.
Not every Rangers player needs to be a mix of Souness and Laudrup. Not every captain needs to be a brilliant human alongside being a brilliant player.
Ferguson gets way way more shite than he should on here, simply because he had a selfish burning desire to win. Yet folk cannot get their head around when the jersey comes off that selfishness and desire might not translate well into how he carries himself in retirement or that.
To want Ferguson to be any different would be having to deny him all the traits that made him a winner.
I don't give a %^*& how he acted towards PLG, he got the job done.
He very much always got the job done in our shirt.
Some folk need their head checked man.
I wouldn't send bain out to buy ice cream in this heatwaveTo be fair, I could out think Bain in a transfer situation I reckon.
Sums it up exactly.
No doubting Barry could be a pain in the arse at times but a strong manager can handle that, as Walter proved, PLG simply couldn’t. His complete lack of success after he left us proved PLG simply wasn’t very good.