Calderwoodloyal
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Positive loyalBig Phil with his own team will scud the arses of those manky rats next season after a cup double this season.
While a lot of what you say is true, there's very little evidence to suggest he hasn't just benefitted from the same bounce that both Gio and Beale did before the wheels came off.Part of me can't believe this is even up for debate, the other part of me is surprised it has taken as long. It's a nonsense. 3, maybe 4, of the starting 11 from today are likely to start or even be here next year. We've played almost a month with no natural wingers and Wright and McCausland as the back up off the bench when we need goals neither of whom are known for. Yilmaz being injured caused us almost as many issues as Sima, Cortes and Matondo being out did. Now, after today we are down to one fit centre back. We've been forced to play players who are out of contract shortly. It's been a shitshow for months yet he's still kept us in the race until today. He gets minimum the full season next season and a chance to not only build his own team but an entire squad.
That’s just bizarre.100% faith in him.
He’ll lead us to glory next season.
Based on what ?100% faith in him.
He’ll lead us to glory next season.
I don't remember them dealing with the same injury issues, clawing back a league deficit, winning a trophy or wasting millions on guffMajor alarm bells for me.
He's now done nothing Beale and Gio didn't do when they first took over, and he doesn't seem to understand the glaring midfield issue against them.
It's worrying.
Ffs let’s move onto a new manager every 6/ 9 months.No faith in him at all. Too early to sack him but its obvious where it is going.
Based on what? I think he is capable but he is not deserving of 100% faith or anywhere near it. I might have more faith when he can actually figure out how to beat that mob. The performance at Ibrox concerned me an was only reinforced today.
I would say the jury is out. It wouldn't take much to be better than Beale.
This. After the damage done by Beale. This was always going to be a free swing. The fact we got within touching distance of the title with this squad speaks volumes. Clements the man, but needs to bring his own stamp and players to the club to succeed.100% faith in him.
He’ll lead us to glory next season.
That’s just bizarre.
Genuinely, why?
True, and the pressure to get things right from the start will be on him, especially if we don't win the SC.We had almost identical threads to this last year with Beale with people blaming all the defeats on Gio's pre season and injuries. It was claimed it would all turn around just as soon as he got his own players in.
A good many good points there.While a lot of what you say is true, there's very little evidence to suggest he hasn't just benefitted from the same bounce that both Gio and Beale did before the wheels came off.
Beale didn't manage to win a trophy but he didn't have the benefit of entering at a stage where celtic had already been eliminated.
He's managed to keep pace with celtic in the league but they've hardly been pulling up trees themselves. And when it came to the crunch, questions were asked of him as a manager that he didn't have the answers for.
Some of his decisions in the last few weeks have been more than questionable. Scott Wright in the old firm game at Ibrox. Lawrence over Cantwell, a mistake he repeated today.
Yes, we've had injuries. Yes, the squad lacks quality. But it's his job to find answers. Motherwell, Ross County and Dundee were inexcusable. A bad result in a title run in can happen but three? With two defeats against your only rivals on top of that? Obviously there's going to be questions.
And another thing. We are crap. No style of play, no patterns, no energy, no press. We don't look one bit drilled or coached. I appreciate that he came in during the season but it's been months and it looks like, ball dinked around the back before a long diagonal into the corner.
The leeway he does get is that he's inherited the worst Rangers squad since Gerrard. Recruitment has been horrific. If that isn't sorted, he won't succeed, it's as simple as that. We've already committed a small fortune to signing Diomande, a player himself with everything to prove. We need players in pretty much every area of the pitch and while every signing is a gamble, we're going to need a very high success rate.
The cup final is absolutely massive for Clement now. Win it and a slow start next year could be forgiven as long as it looked like there was progress and he was building something. He'd have 2 trophies and a fair amount of goodwill in the bank.
Lose the game, a slow start in the league and the first old firm at the piggery, having lost the 4 previous ones? We've seen that movie enough times in the last few years.
Why did Gerrard get so much time? We were good to watch. We got at teams, played on the front foot. Competed with celtic, at least in a one off game, from pretty much the moment he walked in the door. And we were constantly improving. We had set backs, shat the bed a few times but you could at least see what the gameplan was.
Based on what ?
This. After the damage done by Beale. This was always going to be a free swing. The fact we got within touching distance of the title with this squad speaks volumes. Clements the man, but needs to bring his own stamp and players to the club to succeed.
The people saying no style of play and tactics
He hasn't the players to play his style so tried to win by any means possible
People have also forgotten that he delivered us the league cup in Dec too.People are obviously blind to these facts.
Clawing back the deficit to handing them the title with games to spare. Aye f**king greatI don't remember them dealing with the same injury issues, clawing back a league deficit, winning a trophy or wasting millions on guff
Yes, so much of this stuff is literally a cut and paste of the same nonsense we got last year. Beale was without doubt a dud of a manager, the fact that Clement is in more of the less the same place should alarm people, but they’ve created this narrative of “clawing back” which sees us one less point behind that he started and Celtic having dropped considerable points to other clubs in that time.There was a very big thread about 12 months ago started by Empire saying the exact same about Beale.
As things stand Clement’s record is no better than Beale’s last season.
He’ll only get that time if he beats Celtic.It will likely take at least 2 or 3 transfer windows for the squad to be Clement's. Whether or not he'll be afforded that amount of time is debatable. Needs to drop the long ball pish for a start, will be interesting to see what we look like against them in next season's first OF game - that will tell us a lot.
Wasn't long ago people were Saying first actual manager since sir WalterYes, so much of this stuff is literally a cut and paste of the same nonsense we got last year. Beale was without doubt a dud of a manager, the fact that Clement is in more of the less the same place should alarm people, but they’ve created this narrative of “clawing back” which sees us one less point behind that he started and Celtic having dropped considerable points to other clubs in that time.
He has to win the SC or he goes to Parkhead early next season with his job on the line.
To have 100% faith in a guy who’s failed to win any of his first three games against Celtic, losing two of them while overseeing an eight point negative swing in the league in a matter of weeks?Why is it bizarre ?
Genuinely, why ?
You don’t remember Gio winning a trophy? Losing Lawrence, Ridvan & Goldson?I don't remember them dealing with the same injury issues, clawing back a league deficit, winning a trophy or wasting millions on guff
Sterling actually played good when moved backToday, and the last few matches, have shaken my belief in Clement.
Sterling not in midfield has been done to death, Lawrence and Lundstram starting is close to unforgivable, did it before and exactly the same thing happened !
The amount of runs that O’Riley and McGregor did off of our players either points to poor coaching, or bad players that keep getting picked.
PC’s insistence that he wants to coach corner drills is another weakness; teams that have specialists get results, our return is pitiful.
To have 100% faith in a guy who’s failed to win any of his first three games against Celtic, losing two of them while overseeing an eight point negative swing in the league in a matter of weeks?
100%?
Kilmarnock really delivered it if you’re being honest.People have also forgotten that he delivered us the league cup in Dec too.
Let’s use this as an example - today what could he have done differently in the midfield ? Hindsight says Raskin for Lundstram but realistically that was unlikely
So what other choices did he have?
He’s playing with someone else’s team barring Diomande
It will depend who he gets rid of imoThe summer window will define his career with us, he simply won't get more time if he males an @rse of it.
Why the fück would we care what they call him?When the tims are calling him the baldy Beale then you’ve got to wonder. Big red flags starting to appear for me now.
You say that but I doubt you wanted to keep Pedro, Murty, Gio or Beale.Ffs let’s move onto a new manager every 6/ 9 months.
Unless we can magic up 60/80 million to spend on top quality players ANY manager will need at least 3 transfer windows to overhaul a squad.
What quality of managers will be tempted to come to us in the future if they know they will be given limited funds compared to Celtic and be given no time to build a team before they are out on their arse.
I think my team would have done better tbh. I still trust him but I think he has some silly blond spots.
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Tav souttar Davies ridvan
Dio lundstrum sterling
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Ridvan was fit for the bench so should have played first 60 for me. I’d have played two roaming tens and matched up in the middle.
That is spot on.Ffs let’s move onto a new manager every 6/ 9 months.
Unless we can magic up 60/80 million to spend on top quality players ANY manager will need at least 3 transfer windows to overhaul a squad.
What quality of managers will be tempted to come to us in the future if they know they will be given limited funds compared to Celtic and be given no time to build a team before they are out on their arse.
Steady on cowboy.I’m 100% behind him.
He won the league cup.
He’s had his hands tied behind his back with injuries and pish Beale signings.
He could win the Scottish cup in a fortnight.
Are you writing him off without bringing his own players in and implementing his own style of play ?
You wanting a new manager every season ?
Get behind him.
How often has he started scott wright. He had no other optionsHe wont. Still be starting Scott wright, Tav and goldson.
Steady on cowboy.
The guy gets the summer to bring in his own players and, hopefully, implement his own style of play - that’s an absolute given - but do I have 100% faith in him to succeed?
Absolutely not, and to do so after the painful lessons of the past couple of years is just blind faith, IMO.