Name the midfielders
Yesterday it should have been Sterling, Diomande, Raskin.Name the midfielders
Not sure how many times this needs said ffs.Did you read the other thread?
Yilmaz was fit, he came on and should have started. If he had to come off after half time and it’s 0-0, that’s an improvement on where we were. That game was the season, leaving someone on the bench was madness.
Lawrence is nowhere near as good a player as cantwell, who only a couple of weeks ago was our creator in a semi final.
So neither of your arguments hold to logic, or at least the kind of logic our manager should be applying.
My team would have been:
Butland
Tav Souttar Davies yilmaz
Lundstram Sterling Diomande
Cantwell Dessers silva
If Lawrence was going to play, it had to be in the forward 3, not in midfield.
The managers’ loyalty to lundstram at raskin’s expense meant raskin couldn’t really be considered, I’m hoping that being forced means we can use him instead of lundstram in the cup final, as well as Sima ahead of Dessers.
Let me know where you buy those hindsight glasses eh?Yesterday it should have been Sterling, Diomande, Raskin.
Agree. No team sets up with a RB as the main attacking outlet. Get a backline that fucking defends and keeps clean sheets. Let's task the wingers, strikers and attacking midfield for goals.
If he loses the fans he will be a dead man walking. I still think he can and will turn things around but he needs to be ruthless in the summer in getting shot of the underperforming core we haveHe won't be sacked if he doesnt but he's going to start to lose the fans if we don't
Not sure how many times this needs said ffs.
YILMAZ WAS NOT FIT ENOUGH TO START.
In what world do you think the manager would leave a fully fit Yilmaz out for the guy he’s had as THIRD choice left back behind Yilmaz and Sterling?
As for Cantwell, If he starts him and gets the same nothing performance we’ve been getting from him the last couple of months, you would have been on here screaming “Lawrence has been brilliant when he’s came on, he should have started”
You can clutch at straws to find reasons to blame the manager all day, but here are the reasons we struggled yesterday:-
EIGHT first XI regulars injured or unfit to play 90
Lack of threat in the box
Second top goal scorer injured
Team saturated with loser mentality
John Lundstram
Michael Beale
Certainly not based on any evidence anyway.Don’t know why but I fully expect us to win the final!
Mate I respect you as a bear, but saying he “looked fit” when he came on is ridiculous. You are making a snap judgement (through anger) from your TV screen and ruling out what our manager, coaching staff and sport science guys see every day and know about the players fitness.Capital letters or not, Yilmaz didn’t look unfit to play when he came on (unsurprisingly he improved us). What was he being saved for? If he didn’t last the 90, he’d still have been better starting. Hes been training for 2 weeks and came off the bench over a week ago.
As for Lawrence, no you’re wrong. I, and many others said before the game he was a ridiculous selection, especially as part of midfield 3.
Our manager doesn’t have it easy. He does have an inefficient forward line and a lot of injuries. However, the his job is to get the most from what he has… he has failed since the Benfica loss to do that, with bizarre team selections and long ball tactics, which against a side with a half decent midfield results in wave after wave of attack to defend.
Lundstram and Beale are also culpable, but Clement is not blameless, as much as you’re desperate for him to be.
Mate I respect you as a bear, but saying he “looked fit” when he came on is ridiculous. You are making a snap judgement (through anger) from your TV screen and ruling out what our manager, coaching staff and sport science guys see every day and know about the players fitness.
You are not qualified to make an assessment on a players overall condition, based on how he “looks” when he comes on as a sub.
This forum is full of professional coaches and fitness experts it seems. I’ve seen a fanny but it doesn’t make me a gynecologist.
It was proven he was able to do so over 30 minutes. That doesn’t mean he was capable of doing it for 90.Ffs man. He came on and made a positive contribution.
Therefore, he was proven able to do so.
It was proven he was able to do so over 30 minutes. That doesn’t mean he was capable of doing it for 90.
That needs to start in the 3 games. Show he’s learned from his mistakes, play players he trusts and find the winning side for the cup final.If he loses the fans he will be a dead man walking. I still think he can and will turn things around but he needs to be ruthless in the summer in getting shot of the underperforming core we have
Losers mentalityNo he’s until he has his own players I don’t think we should judge him too harshly.
I'd agree but he needs to bring in his own playersThat needs to start in the 3 games. Show he’s learned from his mistakes, play players he trusts and find the winning side for the cup final.
Probably correct but it will only accelerate the negative narrative.Clement doesn't need to won the final.to define his time here so far.
The f.cking players do however.
He does of course.I'd agree but he needs to bring in his own players
We've said that about the last few managers and here we are again
Plenty of fans will still give him time , maybe the majority of fans will.He does of course.
But the way he’s setting up and playing with the players at his disposal is currently below par. Rightly or wrongly, if he fails on his 4th attempt to set up differently and beat Celtic then fans will lose belief.
I can't believe people are describing an old firm final as a free hit when we have failed to win the previous 3
Is that really where we are?
Every day mate well said.Not sure how many times this needs said ffs.
YILMAZ WAS NOT FIT ENOUGH TO START.
In what world do you think the manager would leave a fully fit Yilmaz out for the guy he’s had as THIRD choice left back behind Yilmaz and Sterling?
As for Cantwell, If he starts him and gets the same nothing performance we’ve been getting from him the last couple of months, you would have been on here screaming “Lawrence has been brilliant when he’s came on, he should have started”
You can clutch at straws to find reasons to blame the manager all day, but here are the reasons we struggled yesterday:-
EIGHT first XI regulars injured or unfit to play 90
Lack of threat in the box
Second top goal scorer injured
Team saturated with loser mentality
John Lundstram
Michael Beale
The Rangers job will never change. You win the old firms and you are a success, if you don't then eventually it ends in losing the job. We are never going to become a Brentford or Brighton were a manager can build a project over 3-4 years while getting beat.Regardless of your opinion on Clement it's becoming clear that the Rangers job, though still a great honour, is becoming a role that operates under near impossible circumstances.
For the 3rd season in a row the rumblings have started that their are doubts about the manager - a lot of these are caveated with "I'm not saying I want him sacked" but it's inevitably going to end up that way as confirmation bias will start to kick in and any error or dropped point will just embolden this opinion.
We're in a cycle of binning managers mid season to work with squads who have been put together using truly terrible recruitment and has suffered awful squad management.
I can't believe we're here again.
Gerrard was appointed pre-season and got a full rebuild from scratch.The Rangers job will never change. You win the old firms and you are a success, if you don't then eventually it ends in losing the job. We are never going to become a Brentford or Brighton were a manager can build a project over 3-4 years while getting beat.
Gerrard got time but he also won 2 of the 4 old firms in his first season in management. It gave the fans the feeling that if he could get the better of them it wouldn't be too long before he got a league title.
We will go into an OF hoping to "see something" as in a defeat but seeing "something" and taking a positive from that?This cup final he'll get a pass on. There are too many among us who will say wait till it's his team.
He'll need to win one of his next 2 league games against them for me or he's taking a seat in the departure lounge and he's just waiting on his gate being called.
This cup final we need to see 'something'.
If the cup final sees him again pick Sterling for right wing and Lundstram is brought back in to the starting midfield... Then I think we are fecked and we might have backed the wrong horse - again.
I completely agree, but I hope this is clearly appreciated by those backing Clement as well.Gerrard was appointed pre-season and got a full rebuild from scratch.
Whatever happens we have to stop appointing managers mid season, we're in constant loop of failure doing it.
He's on his way to losing the hearts and minds of the support though with his OF record.I completely agree, but I hope this is clearly appreciated by those backing Clement as well.
I totally agree the Oct/Nov appointments never work as unless they win the league they carry the baggage of bad results into the new season and it becomes impossible.Gerrard was appointed pre-season and got a full rebuild from scratch.
Whatever happens we have to stop appointing managers mid season, we're in constant loop of failure doing it.
Gerrard was appointed pre-season and got a full rebuild from scratch.
Whatever happens we have to stop appointing managers mid season, we're in constant loop of failure doing it.
The problem with that though is when you burn through managers you get a reputation - managers will then only take the job on a long term deal or with terms that include a bumper pay off.I totally agree the Oct/Nov appointments never work as unless they win the league they carry the baggage of bad results into the new season and it becomes impossible.
What we really need to stop is handing out multi year contracts to managers. It needs to be shorter term deals that don't cost us millions if it goes wrong.
I agree, but again we could be in this situation come November. I am not convinced by Clement, but we cannot sack a manager during the season, and it's not great that it seems something that happens if he loses ground in the early part. We need to be clear who leads us next season, and make sure we have that person throughout the season, in my opinion.He's on his way to losing the hearts and minds of the support though with his OF record.
Rangers fans will just not have a manager that cannot beat Celtic.
I'm not going to argue that point obviously, my wider question is what do we do next? Get another guy in in September/October to firefight with a failing squad?
People are basically happy to give Clement the rebuild but it's all going to come down to 1 OF game (1st one next season) - what kind of plan is that?