Dorrans has had a set back

Herrera, Pena, Wallace, Dorrans and Rossiter.

How much has that cost us with very little return in the past 12-18 months. :(

£4m or so on wages maybe. Plus transfer fees of the Mexican’s.

If it wasn’t for bad luck - we’d have no luck!!!

Though it’s not all attributed to luck.
 
Porto Loyal said:
And what would be the benefit to us?
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Time and money saved, again, I'm not saying we should look at this, more highlighting that is a very real option when players have long term injury concerns, or injuries that run them close to the end of their contract.
 
Jimmy Jazz said:
So an injured player is to just accept a pay off and give up the treatment and rehabilitation that they were promised in their contract (and in Dorrans' case also give up playing for his boyhood team)?

If we are seen to be just giving up on players and chucking them on the scrap heap when they are having injury problems, how is that going to look to our signing targets of the future?

Think about it.
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An injured player approaching the end of his career who has nothing left to offer you mean?

So we just blindly pay him up a few million because he’s a good bear?

If anything the fact he’s a Rangers supporter should be the reason why he does walk away rather than use up funds that could be better spent elsewhere.

We’re not talking about a 22 year old here with bags of potential on a low wage.

Plus your point on other players not wanting to come here if we were to mutuallly agree the release of an injured older player is just total bullshit.
 
Drumchapel-Bear said:
That thug Power has potentially ended his career after Dorrans waiting his whole life to get his dream move to Rangers. Gerrard rates him very highly as well and he'd have got a chance to cement a place this season if he was fit.

The f*cking thug didn't even get booked for the assault on Dorrans as well.
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Same guy that was allowed to aim his studs at Ryan Jacks face last week. Wonder what time he supports?
 
What's the story said:
What a shocking signing Dorrans has turned out to be. I know through no fault of his own but it's been a shocker.
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Agree , not the players fault at all but when money is tight it feels as though we are paying out big salary and not insignificant transfer fee for very little return. To be honest SG should have kept his mouth shut until he could give some context on the setback and what impact it has on seeing the player this season.
 
Morelos20 said:
An injured player approaching the end of his career who has nothing left to offer you mean?

So we just blindly pay him up a few million because he’s a good bear?

If anything the fact he’s a Rangers supporter should be the reason why he does walk away rather than use up funds that could be better spent elsewhere.

We’re not talking about a 22 year old here with bags of potential on a low wage.

Plus your point on other players not wanting to come here if we were to mutuallly agree the release of an injured older player is just total bullshit.
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No. We continue to pay his wages because he has a contract. How would you feel if your work got rid of you because you were unwell or injured regularly?

He is a Rangers fan but he also has a family to support. I'm not pretending he'd be homeless within a week if we got shot of him, but with him not having access to treatment and rehabilitaiton at Rangers, who knows when he'd be fit again and how long it would take him to find another club.

Also it's got nothing to do with him being a bear. I've argued this point until I'm blue in the face about Rossiter on here aswell.

My last point is not bullshit. It's hard enough trying to attract players to come here without telling them they're out the door if they have a couple of bad injuries aswell.
 
Jimmy Jazz said:
No. We continue to pay his wages because he has a contract. How would you feel if your work got rid of you because you were unwell or injured regularly?

He is a Rangers fan but he also has a family to support. I'm not pretending he'd be homeless within a week if we got shot of him, but with him not having access to treatment and rehabilitaiton at Rangers, who knows when he'd be fit again and how long it would take him to find another club.

Also it's got nothing to do with him being a bear. I've argued this point until I'm blue in the face about Rossiter on here aswell.

My last point is not bullshit. It's hard enough trying to attract players to come here without telling them they're out the door if they have a couple of bad injuries aswell.
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My job doesn’t require me to be in peak physical condition and tbh if I was off sick for two seasons I probably would be looking at the sack!

How long do we rehabilitate him then? End of current contract give him another contract until he is fit?

Every club in the world makes decisions on older players for the good of the club, in all honesty as harsh as it sounds I don’t really care what he does to get fit if he’s not a Rangers player he’s rich I’m sure he’d get the correct treatment.

Rossiter has years ahead of him and won’t be on a high wage I’d give him time to see how his body copes with regular football but there is no room for sentiment with anyone that isn’t contributing and giving us value for money.

Nah your not changing my mind on that one, can never imagine a player saying “I was going to go to Rangers but after they released Dorran’s after two years of injuries and 4 appearances I decided against it” not a chance.
 
Morelos20 said:
An injured player approaching the end of his career who has nothing left to offer you mean?

So we just blindly pay him up a few million because he’s a good bear?

If anything the fact he’s a Rangers supporter should be the reason why he does walk away rather than use up funds that could be better spent elsewhere.

We’re not talking about a 22 year old here with bags of potential on a low wage.

Plus your point on other players not wanting to come here if we were to mutuallly agree the release of an injured older player is just total bullshit.
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Do you understand what a contract is? We're "blindly" paying his wages because it's illegal not to do so.
 
Leif Erikson said:
Do you understand what a contract is? We're "blindly" paying his wages because it's illegal not to do so.
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Oh really?

Obviously you fud, I’m saying if he’s not going to be fit and available do we blindly continue to pay him or do we explore options to end his time here.

I’m guessing you probably knew that and are just being awkward but if not I’ll explain more for you in the future petal.
 
Morelos20 said:
My job doesn’t require me to be in peak physical condition and tbh if I was off sick for two seasons I probably would be looking at the sack!

How long do we rehabilitate him then? End of current contract give him another contract until he is fit?

Every club in the world makes decisions on older players for the good of the club, in all honesty as harsh as it sounds I don’t really care what he does to get fit if he’s not a Rangers player he’s rich I’m sure he’d get the correct treatment.

Rossiter has years ahead of him and won’t be on a high wage I’d give him time to see how his body copes with regular football but there is no room for sentiment with anyone that isn’t contributing and giving us value for money.

Nah your not changing my mind on that one, can never imagine a player saying “I was going to go to Rangers but after they released Dorran’s after two years of injuries and 4 appearances I decided against it” not a chance.
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End of his current contract, yes. Players sign contracts for security long term and I doubt many players agree to deals that will see them out the door if they have lengthy injuries. Like it or not it is the club's duty to look after their employees.

It is unfair to expect a player to just walk away from their contract if they are injured through no fault of their own and act in a professional manner, which to my knowledge Dorrans does. If he was a lay-about and is unfit because he is pished all the time like Pena then fair enough.

Don't get me wrong I'm not mad about paying him a fortune for very little in return either. But the club has to be seen to be looking after our players properly, and we will continue to do so.
 
Jimmy Jazz said:
End of his current contract, yes. Players sign contracts for security long term and I doubt many players agree to deals that will see them out the door if they have lengthy injuries. Like it or not it is the club's duty to look after their employees.

It is unfair to expect a player to just walk away from their contract if they are injured through no fault of their own and act in a professional manner, which to my knowledge Dorrans does. If he was a lay-about and is unfit because he is pished all the time like Pena then fair enough.

Don't get me wrong I'm not mad about paying him a fortune for very little in return either. But the club has to be seen to be looking after our players properly, and we will continue to do so.
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Fair enough, imo I’d say two years full sick pay, rehab and access to facilities is a reasonable point to say we’ve tried our best this isn’t going to work out.

You think differently which is what this place is about, would be boring if we all had the same opinions.
 
Morelos20 said:
Oh really?

Obviously you fud, I’m saying if he’s not going to be fit and available do we blindly continue to pay him or do we explore options to end his time here.

I’m guessing you probably knew that and are just being awkward but if not I’ll explain more for you in the future petal.
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Alright then genius, let's explore the options:

1) He stays here until his contract expires, we pay his wages in full.

2) We end his contract now, and pay his wages in full.

If you can think of any other ideas I'm all ears. There's no way he's walking away from a contract, Rangers fan or not.
 
Drumchapel-Bear said:
That thug Power has potentially ended his career after Dorrans waiting his whole life to get his dream move to Rangers. Gerrard rates him very highly as well and he'd have got a chance to cement a place this season if he was fit.

The f*cking thug didn't even get booked for the assault on Dorrans as well.
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Can only hope that we can write this season off and possibly a chance of him making a return next season with a pre season under his belt to get back to fitness. Must be heartbreaking as a fan and player sitting in the stands desperate to be involved.
 
Will be happy to cut him loose in all honesty

For the money he’ll be on, he has to be one of our most expensive waste of money signings in recent times
 
Sir Walter said:
Will be happy to cut him loose in all honesty

For the money he’ll be on, he has to be one of our most expensive waste of money signings in recent times
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Not really his fault Power f*cked his ankle up then Murty rushing him back ended up with him needing an operation to fix the issue is it?
 
SouthsideRangers said:
Time and money saved, again, I'm not saying we should look at this, more highlighting that is a very real option when players have long term injury concerns, or injuries that run them close to the end of their contract.
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We still have to pay them their contracted wages, so t doesn't save us anything
 
Sad to hear this, hopefully it's not too bad.

A fully fit Dorrans challenges for Arfields position and probably takes it.

Really hope he can get fit for us.
 
Leif Erikson said:
Alright then genius, let's explore the options:

1) He stays here until his contract expires, we pay his wages in full.

2) We end his contract now, and pay his wages in full.

If you can think of any other ideas I'm all ears. There's no way he's walking away from a contract, Rangers fan or not.
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Your not in a position to say what he would or wouldn’t do unless you’re the man himself, I never said it would be straight forward or easy but I’d be asking the question.

Bruno Alves has contributed more to Rangers than Dorran’s but we were all allowed to say let’s move him on or get rid asap, funny that.
 
Alan Power really did a number on him, didn't he? Followed it up with a both feet off the ground straight legged, studs up boot to Jack's face. A total of one yellow card for both incidents too.
 
I have a great deal of sympathy for Dorrans,Grezda and Rossiter.They didn't sign themselves,or injure themselves either.
I thought Rossiter was worth the risk given the outlay and his age,no-one could have possibly forseen the extent his injuries would become.

Dorrans and Grezda were a much higher risk imo,and those that sacntioned those signings should be to some degree-accepting their part in those decisions being made.
 
Jimmy Jazz said:
There is always some cretin who says "just pay him off" or "just cut our losses" in these types of threads. Does my box in. You can't just cancel a player's contract because they are injured. Everyone should know that by now.
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It's always the same guys too. They've got absolutely f*ck-all to contribute otherwise.
 
Got some quality in midfield but he's not getting any younger and his injuries are concerning come to a compromise and let him play in a slower less physical league
 
Some posters seem to think we can amend contract law to suit ourselves. It's just another example of the hysterical over-reaction that is continually spouted on here. No player would sign a contract which would allow a club to get rid of them if they're unfortunate to be long term injured.
 
Gung-Ho said:
Dorrans had an undelying issue when he signed for us.Heard from a source his career was over wen we sighed him .Hope its all shit as he's a good player.
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Who’s your source, mystic meg? Dorrans got injured from a tackle from a thug. So if your source saw that coming fancy asking them this weeks lottery numbers for me??
 
Given his age and the length of time he has been out it is inevitable that he will pick up a few niggles as he builds up his training load.

Hopefully it is nothing too serious and he can make it back soon.
 
I really hope It's nothing too serious this time. I watched back the highlights of the Vilareal game over there earlier and his run to play in Arfield at the end was superb. He's just what we need in my opinion.
 
Morelos20 said:
An injured player approaching the end of his career who has nothing left to offer you mean?

So we just blindly pay him up a few million because he’s a good bear?

If anything the fact he’s a Rangers supporter should be the reason why he does walk away rather than use up funds that could be better spent elsewhere.

We’re not talking about a 22 year old here with bags of potential on a low wage.

Plus your point on other players not wanting to come here if we were to mutuallly agree the release of an injured older player is just total bullshit.
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I’m sure insurance covers the wage of long term injuries? So there’s absolutely no need for a pay off.
 
I don't know if he is a Celtic fan but he has now done two reckless tackles on our players.

The tackle to injure Dorrans was a shocker and nothing happened to him.

Nothing surer that he will be booked for his first tackle against them.
 
YorkshireBlue said:
Sad to hear this, hopefully it's not too bad.

A fully fit Dorrans challenges for Arfields position and probably takes it.

Really hope he can get fit for us.
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I was told last week he was seeing another specialist didn’t post it on here or elsewhere.That’s his 2nd visit to specialist this season and his 3rd overall as I’m sure he went to one after Aberdeen game when he pulled up at the end of last season.I think it’s fair to say he may be finished.Hope I’m wrong.
 
Craig McColl said:
I was told last week he was seeing another specialist didn’t post it on here or elsewhere.That’s his 2nd visit to specialist this season and his 3rd overall as I’m sure he went to one after Aberdeen game when he pulled up at the end of last season.I think it’s fair to say he may be finished.Hope I’m wrong.
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I'm hoping you're wrong as well mate.

Sure it was the last time we played St Johnstone at Ibrox when he came on and instantly looked very comfortable on the ball in the final third and noticeably a level above.

He has that creativity and guile we've been lacking from midfield to forward.

If he's done, even for the season, I hope Davis can get up to speed and show the form of his past.
 
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