Dutch lockdown football

[Galstonian Oranje]

Madness. Lockdown addicts

There's no way back for some

 

[NSB]

Madness. Lockdown addicts

There's no way back for some

I’m in Canada, in my neck of the woods most here seem compliant with rules and regs, but even the most patient have their breaking points.

If we’re to go through this every time COVID mutates, we’re in for a long wait for normality.

What I think about, is how batshit crazy this could get if it actually mutates into something aggressive.

 

[cradletograve]

As i said to other poster, if I want to go a wee drive with missus, or visit family or have them at mine, or meet my mates etc, I'll just do that. Obviously boozers etc closed, not much I can do about that.

You'll still be allowed to do all of that.

 

[Davester]

You'll still be allowed to do all of that.

Not in the first lockdown we weren't.

 

[Minkia]

Totally sole destroying stuff

Definitely something fishy about it.

 

[mikeymols_10]

There hasn’t been any fans at any game in the Netherlands for weeks now

 

[Johnny.mcb]

There hasn’t been any fans at any game in the Netherlands for weeks now

It’s now full lockdown it was announced tonight. Shops , pubs, schools the full bhuna

 

[Guerilla]

It’s now full lockdown it was announced tonight. Shops , pubs, schools the full bhuna

They must be low jabbed. No people would be foolish enough to get double or triple jabbed and then just accept getting locked down for the thing they got jabbed for. Right? You need to have been in a hypnotic state to simply accept that

 

[cradletograve]

Not in the first lockdown we weren't.

Correct again.
You must realise that there is a vaccine program in operation now, and that there wasn't in lockdown 1. When 2000 people a day were dying in the UK.

As the virus mutates ( that's what viruses do) so must the vaccine. You surely realise there is a lag time for humans to identify the mutations and alter the vaccines to combat that mutation. The quicker a virus spreads the more chance it has to mutate. That's why it is mutating more in countries where the vaccination program is not happening at the rate it does in the UK.

 

[Davester]

Correct again.
You must realise that there is a vaccine program in operation now, and that there wasn't in lockdown 1. When 2000 people a day were dying in the UK.

As the virus mutates ( that's what viruses do) so must the vaccine. You surely realise there is a lag time for humans to identify the mutations and alter the vaccines to combat that mutation. The quicker a virus spreads the more chance it has to mutate. That's why it is mutating more in countries where the vaccination program is not happening at the rate it does in the UK.

And if the virus mutates outwith vaccine, it'll need tweaked by scientists. That and trials could take months to test etc. Meanwhile, a more dangerous/faster spreading mutation cuts through population. We would then, undoubtedly be in full lockdown. Without a doubt.

 

[Davester]

Correct again.
You must realise that there is a vaccine program in operation now, and that there wasn't in lockdown 1. When 2000 people a day were dying in the UK.

As the virus mutates ( that's what viruses do) so must the vaccine. You surely realise there is a lag time for humans to identify the mutations and alter the vaccines to combat that mutation. The quicker a virus spreads the more chance it has to mutate. That's why it is mutating more in countries where the vaccination program is not happening at the rate it does in the UK.

Was one of the variants not of UK origin?
A high percentage vaccinated population?

 

[FhillBear]

Was one of the variants not of UK origin?
A high percentage vaccinated population?

Kent variant / alpha

before vaccines.

 

[cradletograve]

And if the virus mutates outwith vaccine, it'll need tweaked by scientists. That and trials could take months to test etc. Meanwhile, a more dangerous/faster spreading mutation cuts through population. We would then, undoubtedly be in full lockdown. Without a doubt.

Not exactly. The vaccine is altered and doesn't need to go through the same tests as the original as most of the test on safety have been undertaken. Think about it the way we treat the annual flu variants.

 

[FriendsDontLie]

I don’t see a point in stopping the leagues.

BCD, having clubs in their bubbles would allow the games to go on.

I think the issue is that bubbles whilst work, the horse has bolted and there are to many players, staff and general important people who will be isolating or with covid for it to continue.

The thought of no football over Christmas and new year is brutal but I am certainly preparing for it

 

[FhillBear]

Not exactly. The vaccine is altered and doesn't need to go through the same tests as the original as most of the test on safety have been undertaken. Think about it the way we treat the annual flu variants.

And as virus mutates the hope and indeed expectation is that it moves from pandemic to endemic, and thus manageable as it becomes seasonal, hopefully less virulent, and can be addressed through annual jabs for those who need it.

Government has been HORRENDOUS at communicating this message as the general expectation now is that this goes on forever, which it won't. I cannot for the life of me understand why there hasn't been clear and concise messaging on the timeline of virology, particularly when there is a vaccine program in place.

A shambles in governance, starting at the very top

 

[R-M]

Don’t question anything, take a third dose of the vaccine and wear the mask. We are only two years in, trust the science.

 

[cradletograve]

Was one of the variants not of UK origin?
A high percentage vaccinated population?

Kent variant.
Vaccination program was not as widespread as it is just now.
The boffins nailed it pretty quickly.
We'll always be one step behind the mutation. Stands to reason. The problem is getting the globe vaccinated, or stopping cross border (i.e. vaccination borders) travel.
The virus needs people to spread it.

 

[NSB]

I think the issue is that bubbles whilst work, the horse has bolted and there are to many players, staff and general important people who will be isolating or with covid for it to continue.

The thought of no football over Christmas and new year is brutal but I am certainly preparing for it

They’ve laid the groundwork for it given the Scot govt’s recent language.

Still, it’ll be amusing to observe the timplosion of no fans on the 2nd.

 

[cradletograve]

And as virus mutates the hope and indeed expectation is that it moves from pandemic to endemic, and thus manageable as it becomes seasonal, hopefully less virulent, and can be addressed through annual jabs for those who need it.

Government has been HORRENDOUS at communicating this message as the general expectation now is that this goes on forever, which it won't. I cannot for the life of me understand why there hasn't been clear and concise messaging on the timeline of virology, particularly when there is a vaccine program in place.

A shambles in governance, starting at the very top

Can't disagree with a single thing in this post.

The problem is that we are dealing with people who are unwilling or unable to grasp these concepts. The information is there. You understand it, clearly. And some others do too. Most people, however, can't fathom it. Most people are pretty ignorant, sadly.

 

[LC1872]

Here or in Holland ?

Prob Holland mate

 

[FhillBear]

Can't disagree with a single thing in this post.

The problem is that we are dealing with people who are unwilling or unable to grasp these concepts. The information is there. You understand it, clearly. And some others do too. Most people, however, can't fathom it. Most people are pretty ignorant, sadly.

Comes down to messaging - and if we are relying on cunts like blowjo or wee nippy to deliver a clear and concise message regards anticipated timeline and virus evolution then we are fùcked.

It won't go on forever. Omicron could actually signal the transition to endemic illness, but time will tell.

 

[FriendsDontLie]

Comes down to messaging - and if we are relying on cunts like blowjo or wee nippy to deliver a clear and concise message regards anticipated timeline and virus evolution then we are fùcked.

It won't go on forever. Omicron could actually signal the transition to endemic illness, but time will tell.

The problem is actually social media which has allowed people to form opinions based on a random lady's front bottom in America telling you that you will grow a third eye if u take a vaccine.

Omicron should see the pandemic go endemic based on its transmisity but what that means for the next 3/4 weeks only god knows

 

[punksnotdead]

They must be low jabbed. No people would be foolish enough to get double or triple jabbed and then just accept getting locked down for the thing they got jabbed for. Right? You need to have been in a hypnotic state to simply accept that

I think the nippy faced one will need to watch what she's doing. I've heard a lot of people saying she can go take a f*"k to herself if she tries to go into lockdown again.

A few weeks ago they were asking people to take strangers into their houses for the cop26 event, now she's talking about another lockdown.

People are sick of it and I think more will break the rules if it happens again.

I'm going for my booster on Monday and I'm not out that much apart from work so a lockdown wouldn't affect me as much as some.

I feel sorry for my 2 sons though. One is 22 and the other is 25 and the thought of being stuck in again is not going down well with them. I can see a lot of the young team having the same attitude especially if they've had the vaccine jags like my two.

Interesting times ahead.

 

[cradletograve]

Comes down to messaging - and if we are relying on cunts like blowjo or wee nippy to deliver a clear and concise message regards anticipated timeline and virus evolution then we are fùcked.

It won't go on forever. Omicron could actually signal the transition to endemic illness, but time will tell.

If all things are equal it comes down to messaging. That's quite correct.

However, as you know, knowledge is power. The last thing those in the corridors of power want is for the masses to be informed. They would much rather have the masses squabbling amongst themselves, than to lay bare the full facts and adopt concerted effort to inform people of the real causes and effects of a viral pandemic and their efforts to combat such a threat.

Much better to have people grateful for a better xmas than last, while laying the foundations for recouping the financial outlay that covid has caused them.

If thing were 'normal', £1.55 for a litre of petrol would be in the news.
If things were normal, the rising rate of inflation would be in the news.
If things were normal, the BOE raise in the interest rate would be in the news.

Meanwhile, some knut apparently cant make the final of Cum dancing, and Ginola is king of the welsh jungle. Ant and Dec are fine and Lineker has managed to get himself a new job (good luck to him in these 'unprecedented times', ha fookin ha). THIS IS THE NEWS??????

Rant over, goodnight.

 

[wee_bear]

If this comes to fruition it will be incredibly frustrating. I’d suggest moving the winter break forward and play from mid January.

Just get the feeling we are being set up for another 2 week (5 month) circuit break.

 

[MaxMK]

So if they stop football till let’s say Feb …. Do they still run the transfer window as planned? Bit crap if teams lose players for bigger games that they would have had players for.

 

[Tagsbear]

They must be low jabbed. No people would be foolish enough to get double or triple jabbed and then just accept getting locked down for the thing they got jabbed for. Right? You need to have been in a hypnotic state to simply accept that

They are miles behind the UK in their vaccine rollout, they're doing a full month lockdown to try and catch up.

I think there will be temporary measures here but not full lockdown, it's likely going to happen because London is hardest hit due to it being the least vaccinated part of the country and there's no way Sturgeon won't miss a chance to join in, or shout about them not caring about Scotland if they don't provide support.

 

[choppy72]

Kicking the can down the road. TBH I could almost understand if they made games BCD, but to shut it completely down would be wrong.

Making games BCD, especially in Scotland where tv income is limited, is a financial nightmare.

Look at our accounts and the Covid impact.

 

[choppy72]

Can't disagree with a single thing in this post.

The problem is that we are dealing with people who are unwilling or unable to grasp these concepts. The information is there. You understand it, clearly. And some others do too. Most people, however, can't fathom it. Most people are pretty ignorant, sadly.

Wasn’t helped by the faux macho “Scotland is pursuing a zero Covid strategy” rhetoric for much of 2020.

Gave many people the idea that we could defeat the virus up in Scotland whilst the reckless English fell sick.

 

[Grei9]

Call the league now then!

 

[ghoulishworm]

No-one's saying don't question anything though.

There's questioning things and there's being a tin foil hat wearing borderline swampy that spends all his time on social media and forums, spouting conspiracies and thinking they know better than everyone else in Government, the NHS, World Health Board, specialists etc.

If you trust the experts, that doesn't make you a sheep.

You don't even have to agree with the restrictions either, but believe it's not something they are taking likely.

I've heard from day one this is about money and that the vaccines and the tests are a big business and industry (which is true) but at the peak of the pandemic it cost the UK Government billions per week in furlough money alone and that's before getting started on the economy.

In the UK, Billions per week cost, all for some companies to make hundreds of millions each off the vaccines? it doesn't make sense.

Did you ever watch Dopesick mate,it shows how the large companys make millions out of medicine.

 

[Union Jack Pillow]

If all things are equal it comes down to messaging. That's quite correct.

However, as you know, knowledge is power. The last thing those in the corridors of power want is for the masses to be informed. They would much rather have the masses squabbling amongst themselves, than to lay bare the full facts and adopt concerted effort to inform people of the real causes and effects of a viral pandemic and their efforts to combat such a threat.

Much better to have people grateful for a better xmas than last, while laying the foundations for recouping the financial outlay that covid has caused them.

If thing were 'normal', £1.55 for a litre of petrol would be in the news.
If things were normal, the rising rate of inflation would be in the news.
If things were normal, the BOE raise in the interest rate would be in the news.

Meanwhile, some knut apparently cant make the final of Cum dancing, and Ginola is king of the welsh jungle. Ant and Dec are fine and Lineker has managed to get himself a new job (good luck to him in these 'unprecedented times', ha fookin ha). THIS IS THE NEWS??????

Rant over, goodnight.

This post is 100% spot on for me

 

[GazzaG]

We are about 10 weeks away from two years of this shit. Getting absolutely sick of it.

3 weeks to flatten the curve.

 

[fresh_whipped]

This season is finishing earlier than usual so that next season can start earlier than usual because of the decision to play a world cup in December. So if games are stopped for a month or so it will be 3/4 games a week for some teams.

 

[R P McMurphy]

We are about 10 weeks away from two years of this shit. Getting absolutely sick of it.

And yet absolutely nothing has changed despite everyone being vaccinated.

Governments everywhere still resorting to shutting countries down and further ruining the economy which is already fucked.

 

[Peachy Catboy]

And as virus mutates the hope and indeed expectation is that it moves from pandemic to endemic, and thus manageable as it becomes seasonal, hopefully less virulent, and can be addressed through annual jabs for those who need it.

Government has been HORRENDOUS at communicating this message as the general expectation now is that this goes on forever, which it won't. I cannot for the life of me understand why there hasn't been clear and concise messaging on the timeline of virology, particularly when there is a vaccine program in place.

A shambles in governance, starting at the very top

Totally. I can't understand why the clear messages from the likes of Whitty don't get more prominence. The print media and main tv have gotten hysterical this last six months and the feeding frenzy on Johnson just intensifies it.

They were talking about endemic worldwide by 2024. We were getting closer until this last bump but it could certainly be good news after this wave. We just need to build back in a different fashion. All economies are struggling with inflation and instability whilst this is ongoing.

 

[Twosignals]

On the news don’t know how to post the link, Holland announce full lockdown until 19th January , pubs, restaurants , theatres, stadiums, schools the whole shooting match unfortunately I wonder if we will end up doing the same. Two families only for Christmas Day and Boxing Day.

Could today be the last we see our team until after the winter break who knows

Covid: Dutch go into Christmas lockdown over Omicron wave https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59713503

Does that mean if it happens here, Our Authorities Will Allow Us The League, after all we have president!!!! LOL

 

[Johnny.mcb]

Youve got to ask what’s the point of the huge vaccine programme If we are all going to be locked down again and I understand this train of thought. I feel as if I’ve got vaccines coming out of my ears at my age between the flu jabs the two Oxfords then the booster what is next you wonder

 

[Artful Dodger]

So see the previous variants are they gone? Is it just this new one now? I’m confused. You don’t hear of anyone dying from the previous covid variants.
Football will stop just in time for timmy to get their squad fit again. But nothing ever goes their way says chip on the shoulder fc.

 

[Bearsdenloyal]

Kent variant / alpha

before vaccines.

No one ever called the first one the wuhan variant

 

[Biniaro11]

Just give us the title then. That’s how it works.

 

[GeckoBear29]

Yep, agreed mate and with no end in sight it’s depressing as %^*&.

Vaccines are tHe way ou… oh wait

 

[Bearsdenloyal]

They are miles behind the UK in their vaccine rollout, they're doing a full month lockdown to try and catch up.

I think there will be temporary measures here but not full lockdown, it's likely going to happen because London is hardest hit due to it being the least vaccinated part of the country and there's no way Sturgeon won't miss a chance to join in, or shout about them not caring about Scotland if they don't provide support.

London has a young population and very ethnically diverse

Third of Londoners ‘are not vaccinated against Covid’

Some areas of London have a two-dose vaccine rate as low as 39 per cent

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Hap Hapablap]

Lots to ponder for the idiots running our game. Don't be surprised to see todays cup final being the last football until the end of January. Their favourites get to be smug going into the new year with a trophy, they get players back from injury and also strengthen in the transfer market for the rearranged game against us at their midden, possibly rearranged sometime just before the football was supposed to start again after the winter break.

 

[Johnny.mcb]

Lots to ponder for the idiots running our game. Don't be surprised to see todays cup final being the last football until the end of January. Their favourites get to be smug going into the new year with a trophy, they get players back from injury and also strengthen in the transfer market for the rearranged game against us at their midden, possibly rearranged sometime just before the football was supposed to start again after the winter break.

Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if every bit of that comes to fruition

 

[Realger34]

Sick of this pish, whole situation is depressing as f.uck.

 

[St Andrews Bear]

Never forgive the bastarding Chinese for this shite. And to avoid doubt the scumbags released this on us deliberately

 

[Bearsdenloyal]

Sick of this pish, whole situation is depressing as f.uck.

Whole country are now

Can't plan anything

 

[Johnny.mcb]

Sick of this pish, whole situation is depressing as f.uck.

It really is beyond depressing. Clicked on the bbc news website there with my porridge and wish I hadn’t. London overwhelmed , govt calling meetings etc. It’s only heading one way now. The panic cannot be stopped. Boxing Day is absolutely ruined with no football , we’ve all had vaccines , but it seems not to be enough now. Where does it end

 

[BagoBorealis]

They should find a fucking cure

It’s important!

I think they are trying.

Is that you Super Hans?