Those places probably only stay afloat due to Ibrox traffic and Rangers see none or very little of the benefit. When Rangers tried to sell our media rights to FF and H&H I think most of us were right behind it for similar reasons.Because thousands of beers before kick off would be sold in the stadium to people that would normally drink in the pubs on the prw before kick off.
I suspect the response you are seeing from the local landlord proves my point. The club would make money, that means someone else would not be taking that revenueYeah the 100s of clubs in England are all losing money by doing this.
You think the draw of poorer quality beer, at higher prices, in plastic cups will be strong enough to put pubs out of business?Because thousands of beers before kick off would be sold in the stadium to people that would normally drink in the pubs on the prw before kick off.
Absolutely, you seem to agree with what i am saying.Those places probably only stay afloat due to Ibrox traffic and Rangers see none or very little of the benefit. When Rangers tried to sell our media rights to FF and H&H I think most of us were right behind it for similar reasons.
Nailed it sadlyWe can't be trusted in Scotland. The violent arsehole thugs ruin it for the normal people and always will. Then there's the drug use on top of that which would leave it as a recipe for disaster.
I just think that the cost would be prohibitive to do it properly, the Club has or is spending £10m plus on NEH, and also have Blue Sky Lounge, Club 72, and all the other Hospitality Suites.Investing in the infrastructure to eventually turn a profit further down the line and improve the matchday experience seems in line with every other investment and enhancement the club has ever made. They don't just magically spring up in other stadiums.
I suspect you haven’t actually read his posts.I suspect the response you are seeing from the local landlord proves my point. The club would make money, that means someone else would not be taking that revenue
You don't have to be an expert on how much things cost to see that every club down South and abroad manages to do it without it being prohibitive.I just think that the cost would be prohibitive to do it properly, the Club has or is spending £10m plus on NEH, and also have Blue Sky Lounge, Club 72, and all the other Hospitality Suites.
I don't think the extra expense could be justified
How much do posters on here reckon it would cost to put bars in all the Concourses?
Let's see how far apart they all are
You haven't a clue about thisIf only they consulted a random nearby pub owner with no possible incentive to say it won't work.
Yes, that is exactly what I think. Enough people will move their drinking to the stadium that it would cripple some of the pubs in the area.You think the draw of poorer quality beer, at higher prices, in plastic cups will be strong enough to put pubs out of business?
I agree he has not explicitly stated that.I suspect you haven’t actually read his posts.
At no point has he mentioned it being detrimental to local pubs.
It's not Rangers problem to worry about the Pubs on PRW or The Louden or anywhere else for that matterBecause thousands of beers before kick off would be sold in the stadium to people that would normally drink in the pubs on the prw before kick off.
I don’t know what to tell you if you really think that, it’s complete nonsense.Yes, that is exactly what I think. Enough people will move their drinking to the stadium that it would cripple some of the pubs in the area.
Reading the other posts, the landlord in the area seems to agree, thats why he want a much smaller sports bar that would be much more limited in how many clientel it could accomodate.
Think maybe 2015, went to a barca game last season and was still the same.Any idea when that law came in in Spain? Sure at the Seville derby in 2009 I was drinking proper beer. You can drink proper out of the top two tiers over there, been to a few matches and done it. Put me off Spanish Football a bit that you can't drink in top two tiers to tell truth.
Maybe its just me but I'd rather stand in a pub for a few pints rather than the stadium, can take it or leave it however I would probably have a pint at half time, pubs before and after the game for me.Because thousands of beers before kick off would be sold in the stadium to people that would normally drink in the pubs on the prw before kick off.
That's not going to happen. Why would people leave a pub, where you can get a seat and go stand in a concourse, that if everybody went to, you'd never get a pint.It would be from when the gates open which is 90 minutes to 2 hours before kick off.
The bars on prw sell loads of beer in the 2 hours before the game
do you not believe a huge number of those people would drink in the stadium rather than the pub and give money to the club?
Actually, I think they should have built NEH twice the size, there is not enough capacity for fans that want a drink before and after the gamesYes, that is exactly what I think. Enough people will move their drinking to the stadium that it would cripple some of the pubs in the area.
Reading the other posts, the landlord in the area seems to agree, thats why he want a much smaller sports bar that would be much more limited in how many clientel it could accomodate.
I agree. But it would have an effect on them and for some they may not surviveIt's not Rangers problem to worry about the Pubs on PRW or The Louden or anywhere else for that matter
So how much do you think it would cost to have it in all the concourses and how much do you think the Club would make after expensesYou don't have to be an expert on how much things cost to see that every club down South and abroad manages to do it without it being prohibitive.
And you seem clueless when it comes to squaring the circle that every club in Holland, England and Germany manages to sell beer in the stadium without the infrastructure to do so magically coming into existence one day.You haven't a clue about this
So who is going to buy the beer in the stadium?? I am not saying it would cripple all the pubs, but the money moving will cripple someThat's not going to happen. Why would people leave a pub, where you can get a seat and go stand in a concourse, that if everybody went to, you'd never get a pint.
Ive been to plenty games in England, more so at Stamford bridge. There's plenty pubs around the bridge and they're all busy before and after the game. Nobody is allowed to take their drinks into the viewing area and it works just fine.
I actually believe in the American way of doing things, build them all in the same area and more will comeI agree. But it would have an effect on them and for some they may not survive
Complete and utter drivel. I don't see any difference between Scots, mancs, scousers, Geordies etc. This is what decades of government social condition doesWe can't be trusted in Scotland. The violent arsehole thugs ruin it for the normal people and always will. Then there's the drug use on top of that which would leave it as a recipe for disaster.
Couldn’t we get extra seating for outside the NEH, with a decent canopy over it so we could have our very ownActually, I think they should have built NEH twice the size, there is not enough capacity for fans that want a drink before and after the games
Not magically but planning it out, do you have any idea how Ibrox could get a building warrant for this?And you seem clueless when it comes to squaring the circle that every club in Holland, England and Germany manages to sell beer in the stadium without the infrastructure to do so magically coming into existence one day.
Nor sure GCC would be keen on this but I think it would be a great ideaCouldn’t we get extra seating for outside the NEH, with a decent canopy over it so we could have our very own
bear garden.
And thats fine for you, and no doubt many others. But if everyone chooses to continue to drink in the pub it will not make money for the club so they will not do it.Maybe its just me but I'd rather stand in a pub for a few pints rather than the stadium, can take it or leave it however I would probably have a pint at half time, pubs before and after the game for me.
Maybe it isn't about making a profit but improving the match day experience. Going from 130,000 people crushed in like sardines to an all seater cost money and wouldn't really lead to greater profits from ticketing, but it was done. The fact that those clubs were incentivised to do so suggests to me at least it is a profit making venture.So how much do you think it would cost to have it in all the concourses and how much do you think the Club would make after expenses
No but it's hardly going to be my job is it?Not magically but planning it out, do you have any idea how Ibrox could get a building warrant for this?
More can only come if they make the stadium biggerI actually believe in the American way of doing things, build them all in the same area and more will come
They going to have a lid like on a kids cup?
That wouldn't happen in Scotland and doesn't currently happen in England. Fans still drink in pubs before the game and then may have one in the concourse before and maybe another at HT. It's not a particularly convivial experience drinking out of a plastic cup on a freezing cold concourse compared to being in a nice warm pub. It wouldn't replace the pub experience entirely. It's not as if there's no evidence base to draw upon about this.Yes, that is exactly what I think. Enough people will move their drinking to the stadium that it would cripple some of the pubs in the area.
Reading the other posts, the landlord in the area seems to agree, thats why he want a much smaller sports bar that would be much more limited in how many clientel it could accomodate.
From what I've seen, most maybe have a quick pint before kick off or at half time. The vast majority have their favoured pub before the game, much as anywhere else.So who is going to buy the beer in the stadium?? I am not saying it would cripple all the pubs, but the money moving will cripple some
Are we just pretending that bars don't make most of their money from serving drunks here?In theory, I agree that beer should be sold in the stadium before and after the game. It already is in the hospitality suites. What concerns me, and why I think it’ll never happen is some people can be arseholes with drink. And they can become a nuisance. Getting up to the lavvy every 10 minutes, spewing up, talking nonsense, shouting and swearing etc.
Also, purely from a licensing point of view, it’ll be very difficult. One of the conditions is not to serve alcohol to an already intoxicated person. If someone gets lifted for being drunk and disorderly and it’s found that they’ve been getting pished in the stadium, it could have repercussions for the clubs booze licence. Not to mention the agro it may cause if someone’s refused service.
I wouldn't be changing my routine like many others, the way see it is I'd have a pint at half time if it was readily available, no big issue... I think you're reading too much into it because its not going to happen anyway.And thats fine for you, and no doubt many others. But if everyone chooses to continue to drink in the pub it will not make money for the club so they will not do it.
Lets say people have 3 beers in a local pub, but that now becomes 2 in the pub and one in the stadium, for some if the bars that will be significant
I hope your poetry is better than your logicSo who is going to buy the beer in the stadium?? I am not saying it would cripple all the pubs, but the money moving will cripple some
Do it like the epl, you can't take it to your seat.I think I'm the only person that doesn't want it back. I could see it being a nightmare cunts spilling drink around you
Exactly the same experience for me.That's not going to happen. Why would people leave a pub, where you can get a seat and go stand in a concourse, that if everybody went to, you'd never get a pint.
Ive been to plenty games in England, more so at Stamford bridge. There's plenty pubs around the bridge and they're all busy before and after the game. Nobody is allowed to take their drinks into the viewing area and it works just fine.
I am in the same boat. Folk can surely go 90 plus minutes without the need for a drink. UK culture that too many folk need to be pissed out their skull and I know that is generalising but the sad fact is loads ruin it for others. It’s bad enough a European night in the bogs with folk sniffing their brains out without adding more alcohol to the mix.I think I'm the only person that doesn't want it back. I could see it being a nightmare cunts spilling drink around you