auldyin
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He will always be the MSP if he is the 2nd on the list which he has been for the last 2 Scottish elections. He is a list MSP not electedHe won't say anything about it
Unless he want's to be your former MSP
He will always be the MSP if he is the 2nd on the list which he has been for the last 2 Scottish elections. He is a list MSP not electedHe won't say anything about it
Unless he want's to be your former MSP
Hi Mate,My email:
Good evening Mr Greene,
I am emailing to request a response from you in relation to the various examples of hateful, anti Monarchist chanting heard from various Scottish football team supporters over the last week.
As a member of the Conservative and Unionist Party, I would hope that you share my views that said conduct( irrespective of allegiance), is wholly unacceptable.
Will you highlight said conduct to the First Minister and Justice Minister and seek to elicit a response as to how their party will deal with such matters?
Will you be making a formal request to Police Scotland to investigate said conduct, and be appraised of the outcome?
How do you feel personally about such examples of disrespect?
I look forward to your response.
Yours,
I remember Hearts fans being lifted at Hampden on BOTP charges when booing and jeering a minute silence for the Pope. This minute silence was demanded by Celtc, even though the Pope was a foreign entity and nothing to do with Britain.
Whilst that is probably correct, this has been a massive PR disaster and one that can open a door fora frank debate and testing of the waters on the legal system in this country and the two tiered system it appears to be.I probably hold a juvenile view of all our MSP’s but, I think the majority are lazy and just do enough to get by
All non-essential political activity has been suspended due to the national period of mourning.He is duty bound to answer constituents - asking him clearly about the reason why his noted lack of action has happened and how he intends to redress it would be my course of action.
Kill them with the sword they fight with
They could prevent the offensive banners being brought in.I am not sure what the police can do about it really. It’s certainly disrespectful but I think you would struggle to argue sectarian. Yes the Queen was the head of the Protestant church but plenty normal* folk have no time for the Royal Family and they are not all sectarian.
*By normal I mean not scummy Celtic fans.
Ardrossan you say?He’s mine, but I haven’t thought of looking at his response/lack of. I will now. He’s headquartered in Ardrossan.
What's ridiculous.Absolutely ridiculous. They make up 16% of the population, and hardly any of them go to church.
Booed the pope because they’re prods,Wonder what the groin brigades reaction to that would have been.
Hearts fans must be atheists then... booing the Queen and the pope !!!
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Does he do his surgery at the unionist club .He’s mine, but I haven’t thought of looking at his response/lack of. I will now. He’s headquartered in Ardrossan.
Their behaviour is a sectarian breach of the peaceI am not sure what the police can do about it really. It’s certainly disrespectful but I think you would struggle to argue sectarian. Yes the Queen was the head of the Protestant church but plenty normal* folk have no time for the Royal Family and they are not all sectarian.
*By normal I mean not scummy Celtic fans.
I just wonder is Shadow Justice Minister Jamie Greene any poster on the this forum's MSP? I ask this because I am struggling to recall him ever getting on his feet to condemn the actions of Celtic FC fans and the Inability of Police Scotland to actually do their jobs. This weekend Dundee Utd, Hibs and Aberdeen fans sang sick , disgusting songs about the passing of the Queen and today, we saw the predictable banner from the Tramps with their support, also singing abusive and offensive songs about the Queen's passing.
I am wondering why the Shadow Justice Minister has not been on Social media to condemn them all and to ask questions of Police Scotland with regards to the offensive behaviour on show to all both yesterday and today. It would be good if he was someone's MSP so, they could ask him to question the Justice Minister and FM, to demand that Police Scotland open investigations in to all incidents.
He has been on social media.To be fair to Jamie, all Scottish Conservative MSPs have been in a self imposed purdah due to the mourning period for Her Majesty.
I think the difference is that there was a lot of them singing it yesterday and the police aren’t going to wade in and arrest hundreds of them just like they don’t at Ibrox when the Union Bears for example sing f the pope. It would cause chaos trying to arrest that many at the time. That was my initial point which appears to have been taken out of context.Their behaviour is a sectarian breach of the peace
Six Hearts fans were charged with this for jeering the minute’s silence for the Pope
I fail to see what’s different in these two situations
One can’t be sectarian and one can
He, and the rest of the Scottish Conservative MSP’s, have only been active regarding the passing of Her Majesty. They have not commented on anything political.He has been on social media.
This is to do with the passing of the Queen .He, and the rest of the Scottish Conservative MSP’s, have only been active regarding the passing of Her Majesty. They have not commented on anything political.
I think the difference is that there was a lot of them singing it yesterday and the police aren’t going to wade in and arrest hundreds of them just like they don’t at Ibrox when the Union Bears for example sing f the pope. It would cause chaos trying to arrest that many at the time. That was my initial point which appears to have been taken out of context.
I have did that many times and never got a reply. The shadow justice minister could show up the two tiered justice system.Why not message the actual Justice Secretary?
That’s never stopped James DornanHe's not going to condemn anything/anyone that may affect him in the polls.
That's how politicians work, sadly.
Today,there should be widespread condemnation from MSP's regarding the behaviour of United fans and Scum fansThat’s never stopped James Dornan
Well done mate. I am waiting on my reply back from Greene.I never emailed Jamie Greene, but after the two replies I received from Conservative MSPs on another matter, I decided to go straight to Douglas Ross.
Basically I asked him to condemn, in both Parliaments, the actions of fans of all the Scottish Clubs that showed such hatred towards the Queen?
I also asked that he ask questions of both the St Boo security and the Police as to how a large banner with more bile on it got into the stadium?
Below is his response.
Dear xxxxxxx
Thank you for taking the time to write to me.
Her Majesty The Queen was a national treasure who represented the vey best of our United Kingdom throughout her entire life and her loss will be felt dealy across Scotland, the United Kingdom and around the World.
Please be assured that I take the matter you have raised in your email seriously, understand the concerns you have raised and have noted the points you have made.
Thank you again for contacting me.
Kind regards,
Douglas
I haven't heard anything, not even a response to the email, have you heard anything mate?Just emailed him. I’ll post the response here.
Actions speak louder than words Douglas. In otherwords, it would have meant a lot more for you to state that you'll be raising the matter formally.I never emailed Jamie Greene, but after the two replies I received from Conservative MSPs on another matter, I decided to go straight to Douglas Ross.
Basically I asked him to condemn, in both Parliaments, the actions of fans of all the Scottish Clubs that showed such hatred towards the Queen?
I also asked that he ask questions of both the St Boo security and the Police as to how a large banner with more bile on it got into the stadium?
Below is his response.
Dear xxxxxxx
Thank you for taking the time to write to me.
Her Majesty The Queen was a national treasure who represented the vey best of our United Kingdom throughout her entire life and her loss will be felt dealy across Scotland, the United Kingdom and around the World.
Please be assured that I take the matter you have raised in your email seriously, understand the concerns you have raised and have noted the points you have made.
Thank you again for contacting me.
Kind regards,
Douglas
Totally correct mate and well done to you for making an effort.I emailed Murdo Fraser and so have a lot of people I know so hopefully he is the rignt person to address this. My aunt and I have both sent lengthy emails and I believe he has already responded to my aunt however, I forgot to include my home address and the reply email states quite clearly that only emails including all address details will receive an official response. I am based in Germany so didnt think of including my address! Any way, the more people that write, the better.
Nothing yet.I haven't heard anything, not even a response to the email, have you heard anything mate?
I think that's pretty rubbish, he doesn't even have an acknowledgement for mails he receives.Nothing yet.
Yes I found that weird too.I think that's pretty rubbish, he doesn't even have an acknowledgement for mails he receives.
If he doesnt reply, then I will be writing to him again.Yes I found that weird too.
He for me is a disgrace of a shadow justice minister and not just for the fact he has not answered our mails with any response. I am also going to to email him about his non response and about the sectarian " Hun" term and why the justice system fails to recognise it in the same way as it does the Fe-nian term.Me too. Outrageous that he’s not even send a “holding” response even, buying himself time to take action.
He is a list MSP and he is not going to "lose" his seat because he is No 2 in the West list of Tories. A wee bit like Murdo who also has never been elected maybe 10 to 12 times he has been beaten But he is high up in the list Mid Scotland and Fife list so he will never "Lose" his seat--- Never trust a ToryHe for me is a disgrace of a shadow justice minister and not just for the fact he has not answered our mails with any response. I am also going to to email him about his non response and about the sectarian " Hun" term and why the justice system fails to recognise it in the same way as it does the Fe-nian term.
Did I say he was going to lose his seat? You don't need to explain to me what he is mate, I know what Type of MSP he is. I was saying I think he is a rank rotten shadow Justice Minister.He is a list MSP and he is not going to "lose" his seat because he is No 2 in the West list of Tories. A wee bit like Murdo who also has never been elected maybe 10 to 12 times he has been beaten But he is high up in the list Mid Scotland and Fife list so he will never "Lose" his seat--- Never trust a Tory
I meant he has nothing to lose thats what i was meaningDid I say he was going to lose his seat? You don't need to explain to me what he is mate, I know what Type of MSP he is. I was saying I think he is a rank rotten shadow Justice Minister.
I know what you meant mate. As I said more than a few post ago, he needs to start earning his wages now.I meant he has nothing to lose thats what i was meaning
I always say to people if you are a list MSP after 2 terms sorry time to goI know what you meant mate. As I said more than a few post ago, he needs to start earning his wages now.
Jamie Greene MSP: Queen's death is a fundamental loss for United Kingdom
SINCE my last article the United Kingdom has experienced a fundamental loss.www.ardrossanherald.com
Local paper .
I have been having a look at his twitter account and he has said some lovely words about the Queen but, these words then become hollow when he doesn't act or open his mouth on those (Dundee Utd) that not behaved in an offensive manner towards the Queen's passing but who also used sectarian language also towards her.Wonder if he’s had a lot of emails?
I have been having a look at his twitter account and he has said some lovely words about the Queen but, these words then become hollow when he doesn't act or open his mouth on those (Dundee Utd) that not behaved in an offensive manner towards the Queen's passing but who also used sectarian language also towards her.
Totally agree with you, I am tempted to say something to him on Twitter. He will get a few more days and then if not even a generic reply, then I will say somethingAgreed. There was no doubt he would be as affectionate towards the Queen as all of us on here, but dare I say, that’s the easy part. Taking action and raising the issue in regards to the knuckledraggers, is what we need and want. He’s blotted his copy book by not even responding imo.
Because whether we like it or not. The scum are far more pro active than us. Much of our support would shrug their shoulders at the anti Protestant sectarian antics of him and do noting to try and boot/vote him out of office.That’s never stopped James Dornan
You can get all the contact details for the shadow Justice Minister in the OP if you also want to contact him.Because whether we like it or not. The scum are far more pro active than us. Much of our support would shrug their shoulders at the anti Protestant sectarian antics of him and do noting to try and boot/vote him out of office.
I wish I could be as politically savvy as you.He is a list MSP and he is not going to "lose" his seat because he is No 2 in the West list of Tories. A wee bit like Murdo who also has never been elected maybe 10 to 12 times he has been beaten But he is high up in the list Mid Scotland and Fife list so he will never "Lose" his seat--- Never trust a Tory