Jan Wouters on Roy Makaay's coaching

Macca said:
Him and the fella who scored the hat trick looked like world beaters and were exactly what we were missing. They had energy and desire in spades
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Aye they did but unfortunately they can only do it a few times a season. They don’t exactly act like top pros either. Big fish in a wee slimy pool.
 
I think he will stay tbh with Murty leaving their could well be a reshuffle going on I think he wants to do his bagged now more and he had something to offer tbh he has something to offer paying unless we don't know something
 
Defoe's extension was waste of money. I'll be surprised if he has genuine intentions of coaching. He should have been at our game, not sitting in Sky studios.
 
Sakala will be hit and miss as he continues to find his feet here.
Roofe may never get a consistent run of games due to constant niggles and injuries.
Morelos is overweight and out of form and desire.

Until we are able to sign a new striker I’d be looking at getting JD involved for sure.
 
LucyBlue said:
Loyalty?

He has a player contract. He can't choose to just leave.
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I think his big fat paycheque might have played a part in his loyalty.

In my opinion there's quite a bit of disharmony in our squad with the likes of Kamara and Goldson demanding more money because they see others getting top dollar while contributing little. Its not just Defoe. There's been a few others given bumper deals.
 
LOL 133 said:
I think his big fat paycheque might have played a part in his loyalty.

In my opinion there's quite a bit of disharmony in our squad with the likes of Kamara and Goldson demanding more money because they see others getting top dollar while contributing little. Its not just Defoe. There's been a few others given bumper deals.
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Who can really blame players, who were outstanding last year, for expecting more money than John Lundstram? An absolute clusterfuck of a signing.
 
Problem is Morelos sees himself in a bigger league. He does not seem to comprehend that by the way he is playing and attitude he is showing teams will lose interest in him. If he knuckled down played well for the rest of the season he would get his move. The way things are going he will go at end of the season but not to a team or league that he really wants.
 
Who takes the training tomorrow. Will Gio have a more hands on role essentially replacing Gerrard and Beale if big Roy is more of a attacking specialist? Or is this Roy venturing into overall coaching?
 
TheScotty said:
Sakala will be hit and miss as he continues to find his feet here.
Roofe may never get a consistent run of games due to constant niggles and injuries.
Morelos is overweight and out of form and desire.

Until we are able to sign a new striker I’d be looking at getting JD involved for sure.
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Sakala will always be a hit or a miss. He was busy yesterday after coming on but when it mattered, his play was awful. Sclaff at goal, miss timed a ball in the box that went over his head, tried 3/4 step overs and the last step over resulted in him failing to take the ball and surrendering possession. A cross that my 5 year old would have delivered with more pace and accuracy.

After his hat trick he was the second coming of Mo Salah. He’s 24, still extremely raw and inconsistent.

I think Makaay and GvB may foster him/take them under their wing better than the previous management and it will be interesting to see how van Bronckhorst utilises him - wide, through the middle?
 
dudzo said:
Who takes the training tomorrow. Will Gio have a more hands on role essentially replacing Gerrard and Beale if big Roy is more of a attacking specialist? Or is this Roy venturing into overall coaching?
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Yeah it sounds to me like Gio is going to be a lot more of a coach on the training pitch than Gerrard. Basically doing the role of Beale until we get in his assistant.
 
Riquelme said:
Who can really blame players, who were outstanding last year, for expecting more money than John Lundstram? An absolute clusterfuck of a signing.
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The problem is we dont have more money to give them and anyway Im not in favour of paying footballers tens of thousands of pounds every week. How much money do they need?

Its just my opinion but Im convinced some of our "legends" dont "get it" and couldnt give a flying feck if we win or lose.

If you need proof watch the Hibs game again. We'd have won if we'd started with the young hungry guns like Patterson, Bassey, Wright, Sakala and Hagi.
 
BrooklynBlue said:
Defoe's extension was waste of money. I'll be surprised if he has genuine intentions of coaching. He should have been at our game, not sitting in Sky studios.
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Was he at Sky yesterday?

Who the hell okayed this embarrassing arrangement?! Love JD but the second he showed his preference to being a pundit rather than around match days his contract should have been terminated. What kind of a half arsed commitment message does this send!
 
Hurricane Run said:
Morelos at his best is in a different stratosphere to Nisbet. I know hes frustrated this season, but if MaKaay can get him firing again, or, dare i even say improve him? Thats the best scenario, his value rises and we can cash in during the summer, after lifting 56
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That Morelos doesn’t exist anymore, it maybe did a couple of years ago but not now. And yes when you look at the game on Sunday there, there was one clear better striker on the park and it wasn’t Morelos. Nisbet outclassed him which is sad to say given how much better he used to be than him.
 
rfc_chris_rfc said:
That Morelos doesn’t exist anymore, it maybe did a couple of years ago but not now. And yes when you look at the game on Sunday there, there was one clear better striker on the park and it wasn’t Morelos. Nisbet outclassed him which is sad to say given how much better he used to be than him.
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The fact he has played at that level means he is capable of playing at it again. He might need to move to get back to it, but hes obviously capable - unless you are genuinely suggesting a player peaked at 23, which is almost unheard of.

Cant agree at all with your last sentence. Morelos was poor but Nisbet was a non-factor. He never even had a shot on goal. Dont even remember hearing his name mentioned in the 2nd half. Just cause Alfie was pish doesnt mean you need to throw out the hyperbole regarding Nisbet.
 
Hurricane Run said:
Morelos at his best is in a different stratosphere to Nisbet. I know hes frustrated this season, but if MaKaay can get him firing again, or, dare i even say improve him? Thats the best scenario, his value rises and we can cash in during the summer, after lifting 56
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I think a lot of the problems with Morelos this season has been partly how Gerrard was playing him and partly tactics. Having him come deep for the ball mean't that he was away from the penalty box and then our tactics of slowly moving the ball out to the wings and a high ball in did not play to his strengths.

I think we need to wait and see how GVB does things before writing Alfie off. I don't think he has been as bad as the FF 'experts' suggest.
 
Hillheadbear said:
I think a lot of the problems with Morelos this season has been partly how Gerrard was playing him and partly tactics. Having him come deep for the ball mean't that he was away from the penalty box and then our tactics of slowly moving the ball out to the wings and a high ball in did not play to his strengths.

I think we need to wait and see how GVB does things before writing Alfie off. I don't think he has been as bad as the FF 'experts' suggest.
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Inclined to agree to a certain extent. He needs to stay on the last man more. Teams have adjusted to him dropping deep. Now the sag off him instead of going with him. The whole team have been off it as well, which suggests some sort of issue within the dressing room too, lack of hunger maybe?

Where i think Morelos is to blame mostly though, is effort and intensity. He used to defend well from the front and even when he wasnt playing well, defenders knew they were in a game. So hes the only one that can solve that issue. Hopefully Gio can find his hunger and passion again. If he does, ive no doubt we will see that Morelos again.
 
Fergie90 said:
"Especially with the small details. He’s excellent at coaching how to move in and around the box.”

Big Roy won't believe his eyes when none of the strikers enter the box in training.
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Too busy shooting nerf guns
 
Big Negri said:
Give him the B team, I think we need some experience in there
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The B team are doing absolutely fine without someone who has been a coach for 5 minutes, unless it’s to specifically work with Alegria, Weston and Ure.

Even then, Defoe has no track record of being a good coach as being a good player doesn’t always transition into being a good coach.

Suppose it could be useful as the players would like working with him, but there’s nothing wrong with the current set up.

(I may have misinterpreted your post, if I have then I apologise mate)
 
I see the FF myth that JD is our first team striker coach is still going strong? Amazing that someone can post something and lot's just run with it as a fact.

Wilson said in an RTV interview earlier in the season, when asked about JD's role at the club, something along the lines of the following...

Jermain is still a registered player, who trains fully as a player every day, but does a bit of coaching with the youths on the side to help him gain coaching experience.

At no point has he ever been appointed our first team striking coach. Almost certain SG didn't even have a dedicated strikers coach.
 
JD has only just started his coaching career and was JD not more involved with coaching the youths until the coaching staff did their flit.
I don’t think we can hold JD responsible for our misfiring and assume Roy is his replacement
 
L&D RSC said:
I see the FF myth that JD is our first team striker coach is still going strong? Amazing that someone can post something and lot's just run with it as a fact.

Wilson said in an RTV interview earlier in the season, when asked about JD's role at the club, something along the lines of the following...

Jermain is still a registered player, who trains fully as a player every day, but does a bit of coaching with the youths on the side to help him gain coaching experience.

At no point has he ever been appointed our first team striking coach. Almost certain SG didn't even have a dedicated strikers coach.
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It's hardly a myth, he literally takes the striker drills in the pre match warm up wearing the coaching gear and hasn't been in a match day squad for %^*& knows how long. It's pretty obvious that if he ever does do any coaching, which he clearly has been, it's primarily striker and attacking based.
 
HMS.Temple.Garden said:
he can be thanked for his services and moved on unless he is doing his badges here.

that goal against Livingston will also be a world class memory.
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Honestly, man.

That Livi goal was one of the sexiest finishes I have ever seen. Right up there with the like of Bergkamp vs Argentina, Newcastle etc.
 
Lovenkrands Dug said:
It's hardly a myth, he literally takes the striker drills in the pre match warm up wearing the coaching gear and hasn't been in a match day squad for %^*& knows how long. It's pretty obvious that if he ever does do any coaching, which he clearly has been, it's primarily striker and attacking based.
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He did yesterday. But if that was his remit, then no way would SG have let him go and do Sky duties whilst we were playing.

Of course his coaching will be striker based (where in my post did you think it was any other position?) but his main coaching duties are with the youths as RW has told us in an interview.

He trains fulltime as a player, so at what point was he also coaching the first team?
 
I think Maakay will do wonders for the likes of Fashion who are willing to listen and learn, for someone like Morelos I suspect not so much. His problems have nothing to do with a lack of technique or decision making.
 
OzzyGersman said:
I don’t think it necessarily spells the end for JD. As has been mentioned on the forum he has recently become engaged to a Scottish woman who has a young daughter in school. I think his intention will be too stay and so long as GVB can find a role for him, he’ll probably stay on as a coach.

He also has a contract as a registered player in the squad so who knows… maybe Roy Makaay will look at him in training and think he’s the best finisher in the squad still.
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I was thinking that, they played quite a older strikers to good success at Feyenoord.
 
I hope Makkay can get Alfie back to his best.
Personally I think the last management team have over coached Alfie and this has taken away something from his game.
The aggressive lunatic that was always on the shoulder of the CBs and buzzing about the box is the Alfie we need, not the over coached player being told to drop deep in order to try and play more football.
Hopefully Makkay can coach this out of him and get him back to doing what he does best.
Leave the more naturally talented players to do the work outside the box.
 
Fergie90 said:
"Especially with the small details. He’s excellent at coaching how to move in and around the box.”

Big Roy won't believe his eyes when none of the strikers enter the box in training.
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Task one. A guided tour of the box. I wonder if he will provide them with a brochure with pictures in it.
 
L&D RSC said:
He did yesterday. But if that was his remit, then no way would SG have let him go and do Sky duties whilst we were playing.

Of course his coaching will be striker based (where in my post did you think it was any other position?) but his main coaching duties are with the youths as RW has told us in an interview.

He trains fulltime as a player, so at what point was he also coaching the first team?
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Is that the case? I thought he was only doing pre-season full time to gauge where he's at and then was doing bits of coaching here and there. I swear I've seen photos of him wearing coaching gear around the first team as well.
 
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