Not to say that I hope it happens but we do have something of a millstone round our neck in that we have to sign X amount of Scottish players (I don't think there's any way we'd have signed Scott Wright if that wasn't the case) and of all the current Scottish players who play in a position in which we're currently short I suppose it could be argued that he fits the bill the best.I'm surprised to see so many people suggest that we've had 'dicks' play for us before therefore we could put up with this guy.
Nobody has ever disrespected a Rangers player to the degree that Porteous has and subsequently joined the team and played alongside that player. (Refering to his Morelos painting and all that nonsense). Signing him would be a massive "f88k you" to a current player and be a terrible indictment of the respect the club has for its playing staff. Can't believe so many people can just step over that issue.
For what its worth, i dont think he's coming to us in a million years but it is interesting/surprising/dissapointing to see how much crap supporters are prepared to accept just to get a player in.
There's thousands of footballers out there - we don't have to pick this c88nt.
I’d seriously doubt anyone is going to give their ST up because we may or may not be interested in signing Ryan Porteous
They missed out glassing lassies.RYAN PORTEOUS is a name that is on the minds of both Rangers and Celtic fans for a number of reasons.
Whether it be after one of his trademark no-nonsence tackles, post-match comments or stand-out displays in the heart of the Hibs backline - he isn't far away from either either Celtic or Rangers fans' thoughts.
Keevins was rolling it out a couple of weeks ago. He was saying it was a definite. Hate the old clown so hopefully he is wrong.Jim Duffy started on the Xmas port early hopefully.
everyone has got a past, an no one is an Angel, but this guy is just a total scumbag, end of. And let’s not forget, a total liability and a really crap centre half.They missed out glassing lassies.
Look at the state of the tramp as he arrives at court.
Interesting development.Sorry if it has already been posted, but Porteous has now deleted all Rangers related posts he had on Instagram
He's a lifelong Hibs fan, so that would be quite difficult.He'd need to roll out the boyhood rangers snaps sharpish ala Jason Cummings. I did see he said Ibrox was his favourite stadium he has played in which surprised me at time.
Re. the bit in bold, you say that but we did sign Joey Barton...I know some folk are saying it's a 'done deal' etc, but I just can't see it happening. Here's why:
1) If the rumours are true, then at the very most it could only be a verbal agreement as nothing can be signed until January.
2) I just can't see Beale rubber stamping the signing, considering he was at the club when we seen the very worst of Porteus' antics against us.
3) Following on from point 2, I'd hazard a guess that Beale believes he has a chance of keeping Morelos beyond this season. There's no way he's bringing Porteus into the fold while Alfredo is here. Not to mention the others in the squad that can't go him (Borna, Tav etc). It would be a massive risk to the harmony of the squad bringing him here. Beale is not daft.
I wouldn't be surprised if Ross Wilson and Porteus' representatives HAD been having talks behind the scenes and terms verbally agreed etc, but I think the arrival of Michael Beale changes everything.
I’m not sold on Porteous but the point you make on the 3 players we have missed is a spot on.You understand we have to sign Scottish players to make our home grown quota, yes? And if so, who, in your opinion, is available that meets the criteria of being
A. Scottish trained and
B. Good enough
We have missed the boat with Ferguson, Doig and Hickey. We can't keep standing on the harbourside thumbing our noses at what Scottish talent there is left.
Porteous is 23, played over 150 games for Hibs, would be free or nominal fee, is a current internationalist and, given the disdain he has shown towards us, must know that he would have to work exceedingly hard to win us over, and be worthy of a place in the team.
From a business point of view, it takes all the boxes and makes sense.
This home grown quota bollocks requires that we look at players we previously might have looked away from.
What did Barton ever do against us, prior to him signing? Who in our squad hated him?Re. the bit in bold, you say that but we did sign Joey Barton...
The point was more that we were all were aware of his character and behaviour and still signed him anyway.What did Barton ever do against us, prior to him signing? Who in our squad hated him?
Totally different situation.
Bit of history revision there mate. We were all happy at the prospect of signing Brown when it looked like he was coming to us. So much so that we were all singing "We're gonna take Scott Brown" at Easter Road. The he's shite Thompson is better only happened after they went their separate ways.I’m going to go against the baying mob here by saying that I remember us all scoffing at the scum taking Brooninho. We all said, he’s shite. He’s utterly limited. Plastic hardman. Kevin Thomson is far better (which he was, incidentally, although his injuries really affected his career). All the same stuff I’m now hearing about Porteous. I’m not saying Lego was a word beater, but it’s also wrong to say he was utter dung.
For what it’s worth, I think Porteous will become a very accomplished player in due course, once he irons the abject stupidity of some of his challenges out of his game.
I’ll simply say that I just want to see a winning Rangers team on the pitch, and we are definitely soft at the centre right now. Would he help that? Probably, but we’ll just have to wait and see. He may not be signing anyway.
My point is nothing to do with just character. It's more to do with his actions specifically against Rangers - both on and off the field. It's about how he's currently perceived in the dressing room and how it would affect squad harmony, should he arrive.The point was more that we were all were aware of his character and behaviour and still signed him anyway.
It's probably not uncommon in football that managers sign players that they've had run ins with in the past. If Beale thinks we can get a turn out of the player then he'll want him signed.
We ultimately don't really know how he's perceived in the dressing room. It wouldn't surprise me if they think he's an arsehole but it could be that they all rate him and want him signed. We've no way of knowing and they're not going to come out and tell us.My point is nothing to do with just character. It's more to do with his actions specifically against Rangers - both on and off the field. It's about how he's currently perceived in the dressing room and how it would affect squad harmony, should he arrive.
An aggressive centre half who can score from set pieces. No thanks. I would prefer us to sign a small centre half who doesn’t go up for corners and passes it the the right back all the time.Completely against the grain, but I’d be signing him for free. In fact, I’d maybe even be offering them a small fee in January to get him sooner. One thing we are is short of centre backs. Would be good to get him in and settled under the new manager as well.
He still has a lot of potential although he’s now 24 he has to start fulfilling it.
It would probably be best for him to head south. But he’s the kind of person who could thrive with us
It's a fair assumption to make, that he's not liked in our dressing room by at least a few.We ultimately don't really know how he's perceived in the dressing room. It wouldn't surprise me if they think he's an arsehole but it could be that they all rate him and want him signed. We've no way of knowing and they're not going to come out and tell us.
Porteous couldn't lace big Marv's boots.An aggressive centre half who can score from set pieces. No thanks. I would prefer us to sign a small centre half who doesn’t go up for corners and passes it the the right back all the time.
In all seriousness, I do think Porteous is limited but so were so many that played for us but we’re what we needed for the SPL dross.
Novo and big Marv spring to mind
Just keep your seat and boo him thenThey won't need to worry about replacing the seats that are getting ripped out for disabled access if this scumbag signs for us ill not be back.
Maybe because it's not a done deal.Not sure why you can't post that he has agreed to sign./done deal.
Absolutely a fair assumption, but footballers view the game differently from fans. Assuming they want what's best for the team, if they think he's a good player they might want him on their side rather than against them, whereas we just think he's a bell end and don't want him anywhere near us.It's a fair assumption to make, that he's not liked in our dressing room by at least a few.
Footballers may view the game differently from fans, but they're not robots and it would still be difficult to welcome someone they disliked into a harmonious dressing room.Absolutely a fair assumption, but footballers view the game differently from fans. Assuming they want what's best for the team, if they think he's a good player they might want him on their side rather than against them, whereas we just think he's a bell end and don't want him anywhere near us.
But anyway hopefully the players also think he's a bell end and he ends up nowhere near us
So was I, when this was posted yesterday. The fact it's still here would suggest there's a bit more to it than "Jim Duffy says". It would be unexpected to say the least.Footballers may view the game differently from fans, but they're not robots and it would still be difficult to welcome someone they disliked into a harmonious dressing room.
We'll see what happens, but I'm very confident he'll not be coming to us.
As I said before, it wouldn't surprise me if moves have been made in the background and discussions are well down the line, but I'd be amazed if that wasn't while Gio was still here.So was I, when this was posted yesterday. The fact it's still here would suggest there's a bit more to it than "Jim Duffy says". It would be unexpected to say the least.
Mo Johnston was a fine footballer.We signed Mo Johnston. The fans accepted him. A far more toxic character than Porteous will ever be. Oh and when I say he was toxic I do not mean his religious background.
Scott Brown was garbage for Celtic until about 2012.I’m going to go against the baying mob here by saying that I remember us all scoffing at the scum taking Brooninho. We all said, he’s shite. He’s utterly limited. Plastic hardman. Kevin Thomson is far better (which he was, incidentally, although his injuries really affected his career). All the same stuff I’m now hearing about Porteous. I’m not saying Lego was a word beater, but it’s also wrong to say he was utter dung.
There may be reasons to dislke him but let's not make stuff up.He did not assault a woman with a glass object.There was a fracas and he threw a plastic tumbler which hit a woman.Ime not defending it but let's not over exaggerate things in an attempt to justify you're opinion.We have also had players that have been on the wrong side of the law regarding assaulting a woman,fighting in pubs and kebab shops etc so let's not get all holier than thou.It is a NO from me a cowardly thug that assaults a woman with a glass weapon is not what any decent fan wants at his/her Club, the mhedia were very quiet about the whole affair , any sort of incident if he signed for us this would be ramped up 10 fold.....although the boxing matches with him and Alfredo every day in training would be worth watching....would make Hartson v Bercovic look like a pillow fight.
If the manager wants the player in it really doesnt matter what you or any other supporters think mate.He can %^*& off, he’s not wanted
We had players during Walters time that should have been thrown out the door. Small example. Player arriving an hour before a game absolutely pished.There may be reasons to dislke him but let's not make stuff up.He did not assault a woman with a glass object.There was a fracas and he threw a plastic tumbler which hit a woman.Ime not defending it but let's not over exaggerate things in an attempt to justify you're opinion.We have also had players that have been on the wrong side of the law regarding assaulting a woman,fighting in pubs and kebab shops etc so let's not get all holier than thou.
Aye just the fact he scored against us for our biggest enemy and ran away thumping his chest to celebrate.Don't remember him assault any of players or getting red cards
giving away penaltys
Kenny Miller was a footballer
Have we ever had a player have 5 red cards in a season?5 red cards a season if he wears blue
Jack had 4 albeit 2 were rescindedHave we ever had a player have 5 red cards in a season?
If we're having to sign Porteous for this reason whilst letting the likes of Ferguson go to Serie A then simply put it's another difficult question that could easily be aimed at our increasingly questionable recruitment.You understand we have to sign Scottish players to make our home grown quota, yes? And if so, who, in your opinion, is available that meets the criteria of being
A. Scottish trained and
B. Good enough
We have missed the boat with Ferguson, Doig and Hickey. We can't keep standing on the harbourside thumbing our noses at what Scottish talent there is left.
Porteous is 23, played over 150 games for Hibs, would be free or nominal fee, is a current internationalist and, given the disdain he has shown towards us, must know that he would have to work exceedingly hard to win us over, and be worthy of a place in the team.
From a business point of view, it takes all the boxes and makes sense.
This home grown quota bollocks requires that we look at players we previously might have looked away from.