26 minutes or something.
Weston played for Blackpool’s first team.
I’m not necessarily disagreeing, because physically he’s developed a lot more than most his age.
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Weston played for Blackpool’s first team.
I’m not necessarily disagreeing, because physically he’s developed a lot more than most his age.
Hurricane Run
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When i read threads like this, i genuinely dont think half of you realise how good our first team is.
MilngavieLoyal
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Worth having him in the squad for the qos game?
Bring him on when we’re a few goals up?
Bring him on when we’re a few goals up?
Davieblue
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Have you seen him?? Just wondering how he’s miles away
ObanBear1872
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If he keeps performing for the B team then I hope he’ll be in match squad for the upcoming cup game against QOTS.
He seems to be the real deal. Got high hopes for him!
He seems to be the real deal. Got high hopes for him!
Herbie53
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Not a bad shout mate, would like to see McCann and Lowry playing in that game too.
Leo_Ger
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Bonnyrigg Rose won the Lowland League last season.
Alloa Athletic of League One battered them 5-0 in the Scottish Cup.
TheFrenchTank
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The fact he's 16 and has the physicality of someone much older is frightening, he's got five more years of growing.
MilngavieLoyal
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Not sure how far away Lowry is at the moment, last I heard, he was injured.
Somemightsay
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I find it funny all these people saying age isn't important, if he's good enough he's old enough etc have probably only seen 3 clips of him on twitter.
Weston scored about 40 goals for the B team at 18 last season and was nowhere near the first team. The quality of the lowlands league is horrific.
If the management team thinks he's good enough then he'll be involved but a few goals against amateurs won't dictate that.
Weston scored about 40 goals for the B team at 18 last season and was nowhere near the first team. The quality of the lowlands league is horrific.
If the management team thinks he's good enough then he'll be involved but a few goals against amateurs won't dictate that.
Clubdeckg
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Looking forward to seening how Weston gets on at Partick
GR6Ger
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Stating if you good enough you’re old enough i funny is it? Seems like common sense to me.
Not seeing him play doesn’t change that statement.
ald
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There is. But that makes a generalisation about the B team. Watch that B team and you can see that most of them are young lads, not men. They have the physique of youths. IMHO Lovelace is different. To me, he looks like he has the physique to handle men’s football as well as plenty of talent. Now it is early yet; he has only been with us a couple of months. Maybe his form will dip. Maybe he’ll pick up an injury or two. Maybe others will step up and move past him. But if I was betting on the next one - after King, Lowry and McCann - to make the step up then my money is on Lovelace and I won’t be surprised if he is only tracking 6 months or so behind them.
CoplandFront4
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I'd have him on the bench against Queen of the South. Boy looks like a future superstar.
RangersEasyOK!
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Hopefully Weston scores and gets a good run at Thistle as looked a class apart for the B team all the way through.
Playing that higher level of opponent and full time players should help strengthen them.
scottishcampbell
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Regular training with the 1st team would massively improve him
I'm not disputing his talent or anything its clear from the highlights I've saw of him he looks one for the future. My point is more we had similar noise round Alegria last season for example (I appreciate different players etc) and he went on loan and done nothing. Lovelace's next step if he keeps doing well will be a loan in January to a better level.
Highway Star
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A good bit away.
There's a huge gulf between B team opposition and 1st team opposition.
He's certainly too good for the B team though, so maybe a good 6 month loan in the Scottish Championship would be the next realistic step.
ald
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You might be right re a loan. I am not so sure he won’t be one of the ones who skips that step however. I didn’t actually sense much noise around Alegria last season but maybe there was. I don’t think he was even viewed as one of the better B team players. To me, Lovelace looks a totally different quality to Alegria.
Regardless, if Lovelace comes through at all we’ll all be delighted. If he does it at an early stage then we’ll all be even more delighted.
BoyciesDa
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The OP stays in New Zealand
NDC bear forever
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The one size fits all approach people have with regards to youth development confuses me. If the rumours of Lovelace impressing the management in training are true I really doubt he’s ‘miles away’. One 16 year old player isn’t at the same stage of development as another 16 year old.
Btw, is Lovelace the youngest player in the B-Team?
Btw, is Lovelace the youngest player in the B-Team?
Ranger1003
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Anyone that has seen alegria and this lad and even tries to compare them need a serious eye test. Lovelaces movements,touch is way ahead. Boy looks really really good.
bilkobear
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Agree.
If the lad can cope with first-team football and he is capable of scoring at that level, then he is in the frame.
Derek Johnstone is the prime example of the adage that if you are good enough, then you are old enough.
This lad didn't leave the first team squad at Millwall to come up to Scotland and settle for our B Team.
Gio will be more than aware of his goalscoring exploits.
Teuchterblue
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I'm always reminded of David Moyes describing a 16 year old Wayne Rooney as a boy with a man's body. Some 16 year olds develop physically quicker than others. DJ is another who springs to mind. With Lovelace getting a few minutes with Millwall's first team I assume he's more physically developed than most 16 year olds. Still, it doesn't mean he's yet ready for regular football against fully grown adults.
He's played first team football in a better league than ours.
Not really miles away on that alone before his excellent B Team form.
The lad will get his nod before Xmas without a doubt.
Highway Star
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Agree with this it's fairly ridiculous when folks try and claim a 16 year old doing well for us 50 years ago means this one will too.
TerrySilverLoyal
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2 year deal is it?
What about Alex O’Hara, Alfie Conn, Derek & Barry Ferguson? All in my lifetime made their Rangers debuts at 16 or 17.
Barry Ferguson was 19.
Most likely. Haven’t seen it confirmed anywhere though.
Highway Star
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Are you counting the BCD game against Queens Park reserves as a 1st team game?
I really like the look of Lovelace, but that's a bit of a jump mate.
perthtruebluetwo
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what has his age got to do with anything?
bailliestontrueblues
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Nothing.
ssblue
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Most young players are held back and allowed to develop due to their physicality and game understanding rather than ability. As you know virtually all do not make it top level.
The physicality aspect does not apply with Lovelace. The game understanding probably does.
Time will tell but IMO he is already far and away our best U19.
Hopefully he continues to learn the game and we have a star.
I haven’t been able to make any of the B team games of late, so can’t comment on how he compares to the other players we have.
Agree with the physicality point.
bilkobear
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It doesn't mean that.
It simply means that it is possible.
HamiltonBear
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Exact same was said about Patterson, King, Lowry and McCann. It comes down to the individual - how much he wants it. Some rise to the challenge, many don't. We might see him training with the 1st team and decisions will be made then.
Of course it's possible, but the individual situations could not be further apart.
MainStandLoyal
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Can’t be any longer than 2 until he signs a professional contract at 18.
I thought they could only sign two year deals at 16 myself, however @Valley Bluenose found something on the SFA site that says 3 years.
bilkobear
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Why?
Why are they so different?
Alex Scott played and scored in his first game at 17, what age did Willie Henderson first appear in a Rangers jersey and there’s many more, only we go by age, what happened to abilities
Valley Bluenose
RTV? Completed it mate!
They can sign a pro contract at 16 or, more precisely, at school leaving age. I thought two years max, same as you guys. However, I got bored and had a look around the SFA Rules and it seems I was wrong. I was, like you, convinced it was a maximum contract of two years. In fact I’m near certain that’s what Rangers routinely offer. However, here’s what it says in the SFA Handbook Page 199, and it seems it’s 3 years when u18 and 5 years when over 18:
4.3 A Player, who is under 18 years of age at the date of signing as a Professional Player upon the Registration Form may only be registered for a period not exceeding 3 years. Any clause referring to a longer duration within the relative agreement between the Player and the Club shall not be recognised and in such circumstances, the Player’s registration shall cease after 3 years, from the date of the signing as a Professional Player upon the Registration Form.
4.4 The registration of a Player who is 18 years of age and over at the date of signing the Registration Form may be registered for a period up to but not exceeding 5 years from the date of the signing of the Registration Form. Agreements of any other length shall only be permitted if consistent with national laws.
