SuffolkGer
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Keane was a great hard man around the Lee Dixons, Gary Nevilles and Gareth Southgates of the game but not close to a list of real nutters such as Duncan Ferguson.
I think Richard Gough tells a story when playing with Everton when he'd put RK on his arse an stood over him and said 'I thought you were a hard man'? and no quip back.Keane would have shit himself if he had gone up against the hard men of the 60s and 70s.
Wasn't hard in his defeats against Gers and eventually got himself deliberately sent off in a friendly after Gers fans were giving him a hard timeI mind watching Strachen and McAllister both saying Cantona was nuts and everybody at Leeds were terrified of him
Charlton said Edwards was the best ever so don't go by what a player comments.When Jimmy Greaves calls you ‘the most complete professional footballer I have ever known’, I reckon that says it all.
Roy Keane is a kid on.
Fair enough. Whose word do you take? Greaves or Charlton? I know who I’d be inclined to favour.Charlton said Edwards was the best ever so don't go by what a player comments.
if you download the original pic you can also see a young Terry Venables watching the scuffle from afar!Two of my favourite Leeds players Bremner and Giles in the background. Both had reputations as hard men in their own way.
But both recognizing MacKay was taking this to another level.
Just out of interest, are there many highlight reels of MacKay playing still about? Would be interested in seeing both him and the "Ghost of White Hart Lane" when at their best. Hard to believe but it's more than 50 years since these guys played.
Both on here, also Baxter,Caldow,Wilson and Henderson.
If you have not heard of Mackay you cant say Keane ya absolute trumpet. Think about it , it makes no sense ,jesus hI've never heard of Mackay so for only that reason I'm going to say Keane. I would like to see Keane locked in a room with an angry Dunc Ferguson though.
Definitely no a hard man he shat it at Ipswich after trying to act the hard man with Jonathan Walters when Walters offered him out for a square go he shat it and threatened to report him to the policeI wouldn't class keane as hard more of a dirty player who looked for revenge on players who either took the piss or left 1 on him. Like most have said not in some of the hardmens shoes that have been mentioned
If he was that famous as a hardman or any other reason then I would undoubtedly heard of him. Think about it.If you have not heard of Mackay you cant say Keane ya absolute trumpet. Think about it , it makes no sense ,jesus h
Bulletproof? I've a feeling you are going to get shot down for that statement and rightly so too.If he was that famous as a hardman or any other reason then I would undoubtedly heard of him. Think about it.
But if you have not heard of him how on earth can you pick one over the other. Take a second move your head side to side and bang those two brain cells together and you might get a sparkIf he was that famous as a hardman or any other reason then I would undoubtedly heard of him. Think about it.
That was a brilliant watch. Thanks for that. Wee Willie Henderson was outstanding but so were they all.
Maybe you should Google the word opinion. I made a choice on what I know-wether it be the right or wrong one doesn't matter as its an opinion. Last message on the matter as your "brain cell" comment shows the level of your retorts. The time would be better spent talking to my dog.But if you have not heard of him how on earth can you pick one over the other. Take a second move your head side to side and bang those two brain cells together and you might get a spark
Keane would never have tried that shit with Bremner.Dave MacKay by a mile. For my fellow auld beats, can you imagine Keane grabbing Billy Bremner by the shirt with that growl on his face?
Keane would have shit himself if he had gone up against the hard men of the 60s and 70s.
Enjoyed watching that. Thanks for posting.
Boasting about trying to end a guys career because you couldn’t handle him tackling you isn't hard, it's fùcking cowardice.The game has been tamed so much that Keane is regarded as a hard man when the reailty is that if he had played in the era when hard men were in abundance he wouldn't have been noticed. But when a hard wee basturt like Bremner empties his bowels when confornted by an angry Mackay then you know you're talking about a real hard man. But players like Mackay and Harry Davis were hard not dirty. Keane was often just plain dirty.
Dave Mackay hated that photo. He said it made him look like a bully, which he most certainly wasn't. The reason he lost his temper was because he had just returned from a leg break and he felt Bremner was targeting the leg he had broken.Dave MacKay by a mile. For my fellow auld beats, can you imagine Keane grabbing Billy Bremner by the shirt with that growl on his face?
Says a lot about Bremner.Dave Mackay hated that photo. He said it made him look like a bully, which he most certainly wasn't. The reason he lost his temper was because he had just returned from a leg break and he felt Bremner was targeting the leg he had broken.
Cantona is one of those underrated players in every aspect of his game.I mind watching Strachen and McAllister both saying Cantona was nuts and everybody at Leeds were terrified of him
Where does that place Ian McColl, who let MacKay know what being hard was all about on his first visit to Ibrox as a Hearts player.Going by reputation, (as I never saw him play) I'd say Dave MacKay would chew him up and spit him out.
Hard as they come, apparently.
Maybe you should Google the word opinion. I made a choice on what I know-wether it be the right or wrong one doesn't matter as its an opinion. Last message on the matter as your "brain cell" comment shows the level of your retorts. The time would be better spent talking to my do
CorrectDave Mackay. No contest.
My overriding memory of Jones was him trying to be hard on Gladiators and looking like an arsehole. Got to give him credit for making the most of his opportunities though.MacKay. The extremely limited (but very hard) Vinnie Jones dominated Keane when Wimbledon played Manchester UTD back in the mid 90s. Keane was an excellent player but MacKay was much harder.
That would be a bit hard when he didn't play with Rangers, shake my head.Dave MacKay all day, every day.
Right up there with the Greatest Ranger.
MacKay easily the best, Billy Bremner second.Just a random question, probably right out of the blue I suppose meant for FFers of my vintage.
Who was the best footballer/ captain / hard man —-
Dave MacKay or Roy Keane?
You missed out Terry Hurlock...no seriously I think back in the day, someone would have sorted Keane out...no problem.Mackay , Keane may have been the hardest of this generation , there were several in the 70s much harder , souness case Harris Bremner Giles .
Keane was shitey feart of Patrick Viera.Mackay , Keane may have been the hardest of this generation , there were several in the 70s much harder , souness case Harris Bremner Giles .
Seriously did you expect anyone on a Rangers forum to actually say Keane?
Oh my goodness you really are a brain donor. To make an informed opinion you have to have knowledge of the full subject matter NOT just half of the content of the said subject. I would say think about it but it is obvious you have the education level of a football boot.Maybe you should Google the word opinion. I made a choice on what I know-wether it be the right or wrong one doesn't matter as its an opinion. Last message on the matter as your "brain cell" comment shows the level of your retorts. The time would be better spent talking to my dog.