Mark daly at it again
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RenfrewBear72
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My understanding (which could be wrong) was he harassed 1 boy verbally, the boy told his father who was a cop, the cop went straight to Walter who called the police to inform them (they did %^*& aw) and ensured Neely was fired?
We need someone around the club at the time to put the record straight and go after those accusing Walter, and others, of wrong doing.
Just for the record if this did happen I will be completely disgusted at those in charge at the time.
We need someone around the club at the time to put the record straight and go after those accusing Walter, and others, of wrong doing.
Just for the record if this did happen I will be completely disgusted at those in charge at the time.
bbc just announcing rangers never reported neely to the police after sacking. (see bbc article).We said we did.They are obviously try to deflect on to us.
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BBC News - Rangers 'covered up' reasons for abuse claim coach's departure https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-50087600
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BBC News - Rangers 'covered up' reasons for abuse claim coach's departure https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-50087600
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orjan_persson
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Still trying for that equaliser, eh?
ChildOfGoth
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Is there a statement by Rangers saying Neely was reported to Police ?? Can you post it if u have it thanks.
sofakineazy
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oh look a new member.
mdingwall
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It’s never pleasant to have to confront the sickness of child abuse in football.
It’s even more unpleasant to find a section of fans of a club hoping and praying that children were abused at another club in order to deflect from an ongoing, decades-long, history of abuse by what may have been a series of random individuals but which increasingly looks like a linked group at the club they support.
Sadly, this sickness also infects some journalists in Scotland, and elsewhere, who in pursuit of a story have over the last few years sought to pressurise victims into making statements tailored not to unveil the truth but to attempt to muddy the waters and create a situation where ‘one club was as bad as the other.’
I wouldn’t accuse Daly of any of the above but it is instructive to give that background as the small coterie of journalists working in this area are well-known to one another. By repetition and suggestion hunches and prejudice may become ‘facts.’ That is the culture.
By their very nature, predatory paedophiles are secretive and manipulative - often retaining some control of their victims even into adulthood. The most helpful way to encourage victims to come forward is the pursuit of the truth and the examination of the evidence by the police and courts.
With regard to Daly’s latest story it is instructive to re-familiarise ourselves with the facts. Whilst at Rangers there have been two alleged victims of Gordon Neely and one of Harry Dunn - the number of charges and convictions I leave to journalists to inform us of.
The facts with regard to one of Neely’s victims are reasonably well-known - a parent brought an incident to the notice of the club - the same day Neely was called to a meeting with Souness, Walter Smith and former security executive and ex-police officer Alistair Hood. He was sacked.
Despite the parent not wishing to report the incident to the police Alistair Hood’s advice was that it should be - and this was done. 30 years ago that would have been the Strathclyde force. Given Police Scotland’s recent record in losing files it comes as no surprise that they can’t find paper files from a predecessor organisation about an incident 30 years ago. However, we do have two living witnesses to that meeting.
Daly then reports a story about a club employee confronting the child and complaining about the complaint about Neely. This story is again instructive. In claiming the club was negligent it actually reinforces the argument - as soon as a complaint was made Neely was sacked.
The Rangers News clipping about Neely departure is being used in a manner which would lead you to believe the club were complicit in his behaviour. It’s very short and to the point - and why would a Rangers News employee be expected to know the ins and outs of his departure when it’s the subject of a report to the police about an incredibly serious matter which may, or may not, turn out to be true?
The embarrassment for Celtic fans, is of course, the fawning coverage complete with presentations, pictures and shaking of hands which accompanied Torbett’s departure. And, of course, Torbett was welcomed back.
Lastly, the implication is clearly given that Rangers facilitated Neely continued involvement in football when he set up a private vehicle to run soccer classes. No club, or individual, had or has the ability to stop the activities of a private individual when the police can’t. That is an impossibilist scenario.
It’s even more unpleasant to find a section of fans of a club hoping and praying that children were abused at another club in order to deflect from an ongoing, decades-long, history of abuse by what may have been a series of random individuals but which increasingly looks like a linked group at the club they support.
Sadly, this sickness also infects some journalists in Scotland, and elsewhere, who in pursuit of a story have over the last few years sought to pressurise victims into making statements tailored not to unveil the truth but to attempt to muddy the waters and create a situation where ‘one club was as bad as the other.’
I wouldn’t accuse Daly of any of the above but it is instructive to give that background as the small coterie of journalists working in this area are well-known to one another. By repetition and suggestion hunches and prejudice may become ‘facts.’ That is the culture.
By their very nature, predatory paedophiles are secretive and manipulative - often retaining some control of their victims even into adulthood. The most helpful way to encourage victims to come forward is the pursuit of the truth and the examination of the evidence by the police and courts.
With regard to Daly’s latest story it is instructive to re-familiarise ourselves with the facts. Whilst at Rangers there have been two alleged victims of Gordon Neely and one of Harry Dunn - the number of charges and convictions I leave to journalists to inform us of.
The facts with regard to one of Neely’s victims are reasonably well-known - a parent brought an incident to the notice of the club - the same day Neely was called to a meeting with Souness, Walter Smith and former security executive and ex-police officer Alistair Hood. He was sacked.
Despite the parent not wishing to report the incident to the police Alistair Hood’s advice was that it should be - and this was done. 30 years ago that would have been the Strathclyde force. Given Police Scotland’s recent record in losing files it comes as no surprise that they can’t find paper files from a predecessor organisation about an incident 30 years ago. However, we do have two living witnesses to that meeting.
Daly then reports a story about a club employee confronting the child and complaining about the complaint about Neely. This story is again instructive. In claiming the club was negligent it actually reinforces the argument - as soon as a complaint was made Neely was sacked.
The Rangers News clipping about Neely departure is being used in a manner which would lead you to believe the club were complicit in his behaviour. It’s very short and to the point - and why would a Rangers News employee be expected to know the ins and outs of his departure when it’s the subject of a report to the police about an incredibly serious matter which may, or may not, turn out to be true?
The embarrassment for Celtic fans, is of course, the fawning coverage complete with presentations, pictures and shaking of hands which accompanied Torbett’s departure. And, of course, Torbett was welcomed back.
Lastly, the implication is clearly given that Rangers facilitated Neely continued involvement in football when he set up a private vehicle to run soccer classes. No club, or individual, had or has the ability to stop the activities of a private individual when the police can’t. That is an impossibilist scenario.
BSPECIAL
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John,not his real name says mark daly was the abused lad. Hope this is not true.
BSPECIAL
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Not very good at keeping evidence are the polis
Slim Jim
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Rangers 'covered up' reasons for abuse claim coach's departure
By Mark Daly & Craig WilliamsBBC Disclosure
Image captionGordon Neely, pictured during his time at Ibrox, died in 2014
New evidence has emerged suggesting Rangers FC covered up the reasons why a former youth coach accused of child sex offences left the club.
Rangers have consistently said they sacked Gordon Neely in 1991 after a complaint from worried parents and then reported him to the police.
But the new evidence shows that is not what the club said publicly at the time - and Neely's alleged victim insists a police report was never made.
Rangers have yet to comment.
Gordon Neely coached children at Hutcheson Vale, Hibernian and Rangers in the 1980 and 90s. A BBC Scotland investigation in 2017 revealed the extent of his abuse at those three clubs, including allegations that Hibs failed to pass on concerns about his behaviour when Neely moved to Rangers in 1986.
Neely would carry on abusing at Rangers until a complaint was made in 1991 which led to his dismissal.
Rangers told the BBC in 2017 that Neely was sacked and reported to the police. Two months ago, the club told The Sun: "It was important Rangers took both steps without delay to address this matter."
Image captionThe BBC has obtained an article in the club's newspaper
However, this has been called into question after the BBC obtained an article in the club's newspaper marking his departure, which made no mention of abuse concerns and wished him "every success in the future."
The boy who made the complaint which led to Neely's sacking has broken his silence and says Rangers' statements that a police report was made are "total lies".
'What just happened?'
Former Rangers youth team player John (not his real name) says he fell victim to Neely in 1991.
One night before training, when he was aged 14, he says he was told to go and see Neely in his office over an apparent breach in discipline.
John said: "[Neely] says: 'Well there's two ways we can deal with this… I can go and tell your parents and you'll never play for Rangers again. Or we can do it my way which is that I'll take you in this office, pull your trousers down, and spank your bum'… And I said: 'Well, we'll do it your way.'
"And he went and snibbed the door… took down my pants and he bent me over his knee and I can always remember his hand going up...
"I shut my eyes expecting the thud. But just at that he said: 'That's enough… go and get changed and go for your training.' So I don't know whether something's spooked him… but that's what he done.'
"I was… confused, a bit 'what just happened there? What have I done?' I've not done anything wrong. I was just, I couldn't believe it."
'They didn't go the police'
John told his parents. They phoned Ibrox and were invited to a meeting with the then manager and assistant manager, Graeme Souness and Walter Smith. He says the initial meeting took place in Souness' car, across from Ibrox.
He says the meeting then continued in Souness' office and Neely was brought in and confronted.
John said: "[Neely's] face just fell when he saw me. Mr Souness said: 'This boys says you had him over your knee.' He said: 'No I didn't boss, no, no.' I broke down and said: 'You did so.'
Neely later confessed, and Souness sacked him on the spot.
Since 2016, Rangers has insisted it also reported Neely to the police.
Image captionNeely had a youth development role with Hibs in the early 1980s
"Total lies," said John. "No, they didn't go the police.
"When I made my statement to the police [in 2016] they said they couldn't find any trace of any record at all going back to what Rangers are saying.
"Nobody came to speak to me either when I was that age. That's how I know nothing was reported to the police."
Martin Henry, who led the SFA review into child abuse in football, told the BBC his review had been "unable to confirm either way whether an actual formal report was made to Strathclyde police at that time".
Wished 'every success in the future'
But despite Rangers' claims that Neely was sacked and reported to the police, that's not what they told the public.
In an edition of the in-house weekly newspaper Rangers News on 20 March 1991, a story titled "Neely Moves On" appears on page two.
It states that Neel "resigned last week after spending four years at Ibrox".
It continues: "Neely, who was previously with Dundee United and Hibernian, has decided to go into business.
"The club wishes him every success in the future."
Image captionThe article appeared in Rangers News in March 1991
When shown the article, John told the BBC: "Well there you go. On one hand they tell you they went to the police. And on the other hand, he went with their best wishes. A paedophile? Unbelievable. A cover-up."
Martin Henry said the article was "concerning," and was "new information" that his review had not previously been aware of.
He added: "It would concern me if any institution knew that somebody presented a potential risk to young people and didn't follow it up with due care. And from what I've read that appears to be the case.
"I can only construe it could well be that this was a public relations attempt to just explain Mr Neely's departure and to do it in a way that was as less compromising as possible."
Mr Henry's full SFA report will be published this year.
'It takes something away from you'
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A week or two after Neely left the club, John says that another coach came into the Ibrox dressing room to speak to his team.
John said the man barged in and said: "Right, there's somebody in here, and you know who you are, that's been telling lies about my best friend."
John said: "I knew straight away it was me they were referring to… I just put my head down.
"I didn't go back. How could I?
"It affected me. I came back to football, to Dundee United, but [on] maybe my second training session there was something missing. I didn't want it.
"It takes something away from you - trust. I decided to stop. I just lost interest, I suppose."
'I hope lessons can be learned'
In 2017 the BBC revealed that Neely went into private coaching after leaving Rangers, and continued to abuse well into the 1990s.
Another former youth player says he was abused by Neely for four year during the 1990s, at Neely's home in Perthshire.
He told the BBC: "It is very disappointing to learn that Gordon Neely appears to have been protected from investigation by the clubs… leaving him free to continue to abuse children and young adults.
"The fact Neely was able to continue to promote himself as a trusted and respected youth coach directly created a situation which led to my abuse.
"Considering Neely's death, my only hope is that lessons can be learned from this and that clubs involved in abuse will be investigated to find out how this was allowed to happen."
'I'd like an apology'
John, who is now in his 40s, is pursuing a legal claim against Rangers. His lawyer, Daniel Canning from Thompsons, told the BBC: "Our client has shown great courage in coming forward and speaking about his experience as a child at Rangers. It was not an easy thing for him to do.
"Secrecy, misinformation and a failure to take decisive action have always been the circumstances that have allowed child abuse to take place and abusers to continue abusing."
Neely died in 2014 from cancer and never faced justice.
But John says that some things could still be put right.
"I was only a wee boy at the time. [It'll be] 29 years next March… I'd like an apology - but will I see that? Probably not."
By Mark Daly & Craig WilliamsBBC Disclosure
Image captionGordon Neely, pictured during his time at Ibrox, died in 2014
New evidence has emerged suggesting Rangers FC covered up the reasons why a former youth coach accused of child sex offences left the club.
Rangers have consistently said they sacked Gordon Neely in 1991 after a complaint from worried parents and then reported him to the police.
But the new evidence shows that is not what the club said publicly at the time - and Neely's alleged victim insists a police report was never made.
Rangers have yet to comment.
Gordon Neely coached children at Hutcheson Vale, Hibernian and Rangers in the 1980 and 90s. A BBC Scotland investigation in 2017 revealed the extent of his abuse at those three clubs, including allegations that Hibs failed to pass on concerns about his behaviour when Neely moved to Rangers in 1986.
Neely would carry on abusing at Rangers until a complaint was made in 1991 which led to his dismissal.
Rangers told the BBC in 2017 that Neely was sacked and reported to the police. Two months ago, the club told The Sun: "It was important Rangers took both steps without delay to address this matter."
Image captionThe BBC has obtained an article in the club's newspaper
However, this has been called into question after the BBC obtained an article in the club's newspaper marking his departure, which made no mention of abuse concerns and wished him "every success in the future."
The boy who made the complaint which led to Neely's sacking has broken his silence and says Rangers' statements that a police report was made are "total lies".
'What just happened?'
Former Rangers youth team player John (not his real name) says he fell victim to Neely in 1991.
One night before training, when he was aged 14, he says he was told to go and see Neely in his office over an apparent breach in discipline.
John said: "[Neely] says: 'Well there's two ways we can deal with this… I can go and tell your parents and you'll never play for Rangers again. Or we can do it my way which is that I'll take you in this office, pull your trousers down, and spank your bum'… And I said: 'Well, we'll do it your way.'
"And he went and snibbed the door… took down my pants and he bent me over his knee and I can always remember his hand going up...
"I shut my eyes expecting the thud. But just at that he said: 'That's enough… go and get changed and go for your training.' So I don't know whether something's spooked him… but that's what he done.'
"I was… confused, a bit 'what just happened there? What have I done?' I've not done anything wrong. I was just, I couldn't believe it."
'They didn't go the police'
John told his parents. They phoned Ibrox and were invited to a meeting with the then manager and assistant manager, Graeme Souness and Walter Smith. He says the initial meeting took place in Souness' car, across from Ibrox.
He says the meeting then continued in Souness' office and Neely was brought in and confronted.
John said: "[Neely's] face just fell when he saw me. Mr Souness said: 'This boys says you had him over your knee.' He said: 'No I didn't boss, no, no.' I broke down and said: 'You did so.'
Neely later confessed, and Souness sacked him on the spot.
Since 2016, Rangers has insisted it also reported Neely to the police.
Image captionNeely had a youth development role with Hibs in the early 1980s
"Total lies," said John. "No, they didn't go the police.
"When I made my statement to the police [in 2016] they said they couldn't find any trace of any record at all going back to what Rangers are saying.
"Nobody came to speak to me either when I was that age. That's how I know nothing was reported to the police."
Martin Henry, who led the SFA review into child abuse in football, told the BBC his review had been "unable to confirm either way whether an actual formal report was made to Strathclyde police at that time".
Wished 'every success in the future'
But despite Rangers' claims that Neely was sacked and reported to the police, that's not what they told the public.
In an edition of the in-house weekly newspaper Rangers News on 20 March 1991, a story titled "Neely Moves On" appears on page two.
It states that Neel "resigned last week after spending four years at Ibrox".
It continues: "Neely, who was previously with Dundee United and Hibernian, has decided to go into business.
"The club wishes him every success in the future."
Image captionThe article appeared in Rangers News in March 1991
When shown the article, John told the BBC: "Well there you go. On one hand they tell you they went to the police. And on the other hand, he went with their best wishes. A paedophile? Unbelievable. A cover-up."
Martin Henry said the article was "concerning," and was "new information" that his review had not previously been aware of.
He added: "It would concern me if any institution knew that somebody presented a potential risk to young people and didn't follow it up with due care. And from what I've read that appears to be the case.
"I can only construe it could well be that this was a public relations attempt to just explain Mr Neely's departure and to do it in a way that was as less compromising as possible."
Mr Henry's full SFA report will be published this year.
'It takes something away from you'
Image copyrightPA MEDIA
A week or two after Neely left the club, John says that another coach came into the Ibrox dressing room to speak to his team.
John said the man barged in and said: "Right, there's somebody in here, and you know who you are, that's been telling lies about my best friend."
John said: "I knew straight away it was me they were referring to… I just put my head down.
"I didn't go back. How could I?
"It affected me. I came back to football, to Dundee United, but [on] maybe my second training session there was something missing. I didn't want it.
"It takes something away from you - trust. I decided to stop. I just lost interest, I suppose."
'I hope lessons can be learned'
In 2017 the BBC revealed that Neely went into private coaching after leaving Rangers, and continued to abuse well into the 1990s.
Another former youth player says he was abused by Neely for four year during the 1990s, at Neely's home in Perthshire.
He told the BBC: "It is very disappointing to learn that Gordon Neely appears to have been protected from investigation by the clubs… leaving him free to continue to abuse children and young adults.
"The fact Neely was able to continue to promote himself as a trusted and respected youth coach directly created a situation which led to my abuse.
"Considering Neely's death, my only hope is that lessons can be learned from this and that clubs involved in abuse will be investigated to find out how this was allowed to happen."
'I'd like an apology'
John, who is now in his 40s, is pursuing a legal claim against Rangers. His lawyer, Daniel Canning from Thompsons, told the BBC: "Our client has shown great courage in coming forward and speaking about his experience as a child at Rangers. It was not an easy thing for him to do.
"Secrecy, misinformation and a failure to take decisive action have always been the circumstances that have allowed child abuse to take place and abusers to continue abusing."
Neely died in 2014 from cancer and never faced justice.
But John says that some things could still be put right.
"I was only a wee boy at the time. [It'll be] 29 years next March… I'd like an apology - but will I see that? Probably not."
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giogaddi
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Let's have a full and independent public inquiry. If Rangers have acted inappropriately then let's get it out in the open and compensation should be paid to the victim. Let's also get everything out in the open from the other side of the city. The groundwork is clearly being laid to paint this as 'everyone in Scottish football was responsible', let's draw a line under it, learn lessons and move on. Absolutely fcuking not. All the evidence suggests that a paedophile ring was operating within Celtic FC, which the club has subsequently covered up for decades, and even re-employed the worst abuser. There is no equivalence.
Valley Bluenose
RTV? Completed it mate!
They don’t dispute Rangers immediately sacked Neely I note.
The story is based upon two things - an article in the Rangers News saying Neely resigned (rather than saying nothing or saying he was sacked). Plus the fact that when the lad went to the Police in 2014 they had no record of a report - not unusual given the length of time passed and the fact that there was absolutely no corroborating evidence. It would be different now but, sadly, not in those days
The story is based upon two things - an article in the Rangers News saying Neely resigned (rather than saying nothing or saying he was sacked). Plus the fact that when the lad went to the Police in 2014 they had no record of a report - not unusual given the length of time passed and the fact that there was absolutely no corroborating evidence. It would be different now but, sadly, not in those days
MSF
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The claim is the club never went to the police. The victim said we never, and the police said they have no record of it.
If we never, I’d like to think the fans will take a completely different stance to the mentally challengeds, and question the club on why this never happened.
Deny and deflect is the mentally challengeds way. Not ours.
If we never, I’d like to think the fans will take a completely different stance to the mentally challengeds, and question the club on why this never happened.
Deny and deflect is the mentally challengeds way. Not ours.
The Golden God
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I don't believe the police. Just putting that out there.
Subway Bear
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Claims about police involvement one way or the other are just that, claims. Difficult to prove if no paperwork, didnt mean it wasnt reported and just not followed up on.
Rangers News story is pretty damming to be honest if true. We wished Neeley luck knowing what we knew, not great.
Rangers News story is pretty damming to be honest if true. We wished Neeley luck knowing what we knew, not great.
The Dude
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If an independent inquiry only highlights what happened at one club then things are seriously wrong.
Despite the parent not wishing to report the incident to the police Alistair Hood’s advice was that it should be - and this was done. 30 years ago that would have been the Strathclyde force. Given Police Scotland’s recent record in losing files it comes as no surprise that they can’t find paper files from a predecessor organisation about an indecent 30 years ago. However, we do have two living witnesses to that meeting.
I am not doubting this was done but is there irrefutable proof of this?
I would like to be 100% sure this was dealt with appropriately.
I am not doubting this was done but is there irrefutable proof of this?
I would like to be 100% sure this was dealt with appropriately.
Dr Steve Brule
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You'd think that would be a bit odd considering the victim's father was a copper or ex-copper (I forget which exactly)?
Valley Bluenose
RTV? Completed it mate!
His claim though, seems to be entirely based upon the fact that when he went to the Police in 2014 they couldn’t find a report - if, indeed one existed - from around 25 years before.
Personally, I’m more inclined to believe that if a report was made and not followed up on because there was no corroborating evidence then it isn’t hard to believe the Police would have disposed of (or lost in layman’s terms) that report.
mdingwall
Administrator
You've already been told.
The higher echelons of the club are hardly likely to tell a junior reporter in the Rangers News how to handle a news story whilst such allegations are being investigated.
Alistair Hood, himself a former high-ranking policeman, insisted against the wishes of a parent that a complaint be made and he did so.
yosser hughes
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exactly ,this is the opportunity for the club to call for a full and totally non partisan public enquiry to take place as soon as possible,and no one can accuse them of "point scoring"
MSF
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In that Neely was called in to the meeting & fired on the spot? Yeah, that clearly happened and isn’t being disputed.
But why did Rangers News then “wish him success” in his departure note? I’d like answers on that.
Northampton_Loyalist
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I 100% want my club to face this absolutely head on and to demand that an outside agency comes in and investigates what happened. I want this regardless of what goes on across the city. If this story is accurate (and I am fully aware that it is a single side to a complex story) then it reflects extremely badly on us as a whole and I want that damage to be repaired in whatever manner is required.
mdingwall
Administrator
People at the club have been urged to do so for a long time and have chosen to deal with issues in a private and legalistic manner. That's not the course I would favour but I can understand why they would do so that way.
mdingwall
Administrator
No-one has mentioned phone calls.
MSF
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Indeed, deal with it the right way like City did.
Goggs21
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Mark Daly did a one hour documentary on child abuse in Scottish Football
Half hour on Celtic and an equal amount of time on Rangers
This alone tells me he is anything but impartial
People were saying at the time he was doing his best to uncover child abuse
My thoughts then and I have seen or heard nothing to change my mind is that he is doing his best to apportion blame and appease his fellow Celtic supporters
These people are incapable of being impartial
They are part of a cult that encourages them to deflect and turn a blind eye
They protect their own at all costs
Why did he not interview Kelly or McGinn as part of his documentary if he wants to get to the bottom of what went on........maybe it’s to close to home or maybe that’s to simple or just maybe he knows he would be hammering another nail into the Celtic abuse cases
Half hour on Celtic and an equal amount of time on Rangers
This alone tells me he is anything but impartial
People were saying at the time he was doing his best to uncover child abuse
My thoughts then and I have seen or heard nothing to change my mind is that he is doing his best to apportion blame and appease his fellow Celtic supporters
These people are incapable of being impartial
They are part of a cult that encourages them to deflect and turn a blind eye
They protect their own at all costs
Why did he not interview Kelly or McGinn as part of his documentary if he wants to get to the bottom of what went on........maybe it’s to close to home or maybe that’s to simple or just maybe he knows he would be hammering another nail into the Celtic abuse cases
Subway Bear
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Probably one sheet, filed into a folder, no follow up action, archived and never seen again. A copper in 2014 would have used a computer search and went oh well, nothing there.
mdingwall
Administrator
When someone left the club when the Rangers News was being published it was normal for their departure to be noted in that formulaic manner. The view may have been taken - I am speculating here - that not to have done so would raise questions and draw attention to the issue whilst it was being handled by the police.
williewoodburn
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And don t forget, Corbett's Trophy Centre continued to receive significant monies from Celtic, an arrangement cloaked in dubiety.
walt mcmurty
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Given Alistair Hood’s background i am certain that this was put on record to the Police . The club should lead from the front here in their calls for a full and independent inquiry .
Pep_x
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AndythephotoDr
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Here is the difference between them and us. If this went on at Ibrox Rangers fans would want it investigated and the truth to come out.
I don’t care which team it is it’s disgusting these perverted bastards got away with their depraved acts.
the Neely case annoys me as the story goes before he joined us he was at it at Hibs yet he was given a reference when he joined us.
I don’t care which team it is it’s disgusting these perverted bastards got away with their depraved acts.
the Neely case annoys me as the story goes before he joined us he was at it at Hibs yet he was given a reference when he joined us.
Blues and Royals
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They're angling at ultimately dishing out equal punishments to both clubs similar to the Scottish cup final fiasco with Hibs.
And the Rangers board weren 't very good at tackling that one head on either.
And the Rangers board weren 't very good at tackling that one head on either.
Sadly not. He passed away from a heart attack in 2006.
A new member really .Ask talktalk who i am .
