John,not his real name says mark daly was the abused lad. Hope this is not true.Saying we lied about his departure
Quote from old Rangers news
Kid who was molested states we never contacted police
Neely allegedly went on to further abuse outwith football
Rangers should now lead calls for full public enquiry
Not very good at keeping evidence are the polisIs there a statement by Rangers saying Neely was reported to Police ?? Can you post it if u have it thanks.
Ironically could be the best thing to happen when all the bog trotters in the East end start screaming for justice. The only way forward would be an independent enquiry which will highlight the disgusting behaviour of 1 club and 1 club only.
The claim is the club never went to the police. The victim said we never, and the police said they have no record of it.
If we never, I’d like to think the fans will take a completely different stance to the mentally challengeds, and question the club on why this never happened.
Deny and deflect is the mentally challengeds way. Not ours.
The claim is the club never went to the police. The victim said we never, and the police said they have no record of it.
If we never, I’d like to think the fans will take a completely different stance to the mentally challengeds, and question the club on why this never happened.
Deny and deflect is the mentally challengeds way. Not ours.
Is there a statement by Rangers saying Neely was reported to Police ?? Can you post it if u have it thanks.
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I want to know why this was reported in the Rangers News that way it was.
I also want to know specifics on the report to the police - Who reported it, how and when.
I want my club to deal with this swiftly and openly.
exactly ,this is the opportunity for the club to call for a full and totally non partisan public enquiry to take place as soon as possible,and no one can accuse them of "point scoring"Saying we lied about his departure
Quote from old Rangers news
Kid who was molested states we never contacted police
Neely allegedly went on to further abuse outwith football
Rangers should now lead calls for full public enquiry
In that Neely was called in to the meeting & fired on the spot? Yeah, that clearly happened and isn’t being disputed.Both Walter and Souness have never varied in their recollection of events.
exactly ,this is the opportunity for the club to call for a full and totally non partisan public enquiry to take place as soon as possible,and no one can accuse them of "point scoring"
Would it be common for police to keep files on phone calls that happened almost 30 years ago?
Indeed, deal with it the right way like City did.I 100% want my club to face this absolutely head on and to demand that an outside agency comes in and investigates what happened. I want this regardless of what goes on across the city. If this story is accurate (and I am fully aware that it is a single side to a complex story) then it reflects extremely badly on us as a whole and I want that damage to be repaired in whatever manner is required.
His claim though, seems to be entirely based upon the fact that when he went to the Police in 2014 they couldn’t find a report - if, indeed one existed - from around 25 years before.
Personally, I’m more inclined to believe that if a report was made and not followed up on because there was no corroborating evidence then it isn’t hard to believe the Police would have disposed of (or lost in layman’s terms) that report.
In that Neely was called in to the meeting & fired on the spot? Yeah, that clearly happened and isn’t being disputed.
But why did Rangers News then “wish him success” in his departure note? I’d like answers on that.
And don t forget, Corbett's Trophy Centre continued to receive significant monies from Celtic, an arrangement cloaked in dubiety.It’s never pleasant to have to confront the sickness of child abuse in football.
It’s even more unpleasant to find a section of fans of a club hoping and praying that children were abused at another club in order to deflect from an ongoing, decades-long, history of abuse by what may have been a series of random individuals but which increasingly looks like a linked group at the club they support.
Sadly, this sickness also infects some journalists in Scotland, and elsewhere, who in pursuit of a story have over the last few years sought to pressurise victims into making statements tailored not to unveil the truth but to attempt to muddy the waters and create a situation where ‘one club was as bad as the other.’
I wouldn’t accuse Daly of any of the above but it is instructive to give that background as the small coterie of journalists working in this area are well-known to one another. By repetition and suggestion hunches and prejudice may become ‘facts.’ That is the culture.
By their very nature, predatory paedophiles are secretive and manipulative - often retaining some control of their victims even into adulthood. The most helpful way to encourage victims to come forward is the pursuit of the truth and the examination of the evidence by the police and courts.
With regard to Daly’s latest story it is instructive to re-familiarise ourselves with the facts. Whilst at Rangers there have been two alleged victims of Gordon Neely and one of Harry Dunn - the number of charges and convictions I leave to journalists to inform us of.
The facts with regard to one of Neely’s victims are reasonably well-known - a parent brought an incident to the notice of the club - the same day Neely was called to a meeting with Souness, Walter Smith and former security executive and ex-police officer Alistair Hood. He was sacked.
Despite the parent not wishing to report the incident to the police Alistair Hood’s advice was that it should be - and this was done. 30 years ago that would have been the Strathclyde force. Given Police Scotland’s recent record in losing files it comes as no surprise that they can’t find paper files from a predecessor organisation about an incident 30 years ago. However, we do have two living witnesses to that meeting.
Daly then reports a story about a club employee confronting the child and complaining about the complaint about Neely. This story is again instructive. In claiming the club was negligent it actually reinforces the argument - as soon as a complaint was made Neely was sacked.
The Rangers News clipping about Neely departure is being used in a manner which would lead you to believe the club were complicit in his behaviour. It’s very short and to the point - and why would a Rangers News employee be expected to know the ins and outs of his departure when it’s the subject of a report to the police about an incredibly serious matter which may, or may not, turn out to be true?
The embarrassment for Celtic fans, is of course, the fawning coverage complete with presentations, pictures and shaking of hands which accompanied Torbett’s departure. And, of course, Torbett was welcomed back.
Lastly, the implication is clearly given that Rangers facilitated Neely continued involvement in football when he set up a private vehicle to run soccer classes. No club, or individual, had or has the ability to stop the activities of a private individual when the police can’t. That is an impossibilist scenario.
You've already been told.
The higher echelons of the club are hardly likely to tell a junior reporter in the Rangers News how to handle a news story whilst such allegations are being investigated.
Alistair Hood, himself a former high-ranking policeman, insisted against the wishes of a parent that a complaint be made and he did so.
Is Alistair Hood still alive?
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