Martin O'Neill wants the away fans allocation restored at Ibrox and Parkhead

Aww Skew said:
Selfish? I presume you’ve not read my messages where I said ensuring all ST holders were catered for was my primary concern?

I might be in a minority on FF but funnily enough, FF doesn’t represent the fanbase as a whole

Out of interest, do you go to away games?
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There's no way you can do both.
 
Thought there was no old firm? No special treatment. No more Rangers keepers having them behind them every game. Keeping the ball. Throwing on another.

It’s great having our fans all around at home games.
 
Jan Wyck said:
We'll talk about it after Police Scotland have apprehended the scum fans who bottled two young Rangers fans, and after the trial of the eight Celtc fans who hung effigies of Protestants at the piggery.
So not any time soon then.
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how about not talking about it at all . if it could be done none of the scum should be allowed to darken our door ....none
 
ItsInTheNet said:
MARTIN O'NEILL has pleaded with Celtic and Rangers to bring back proper away crowds in Old Firm fixtures for next season.

The former Hoops gaffer believes the derby is a game unlike any other in the world.

However, the Northern Irishman admits the crunch match does not feel the same with limited away supporters for the games - which has been the case for two seasons prior to this year's Covid shutout.

Of course the highly-anticipated derbies haven't been the same in the 20/21 season due to having no fans in grounds at all in line with the Government's coronavirus restrictions.

The 63-year-old now wants to see the pair bury their hatchet over the situation ahead of the new campaign and agree to restore sizable away allocations.

Speaking to the Press Box podcast: "That WB Yeats quote about 'a terrible beauty is born' I think sums up the fixture.

"There is nothing like Celtic v Rangers with a full stadium. There is something there that other derby games just don't have.

"I think of the Manchester derby, which I've played in, or Liverpool-Everton, or Liverpool-Manchester United, and I still don't think there is anything to compare with the Old Firm.

"I was up at the game recently at Celtic Park behind closed doors and there was obviously no atmosphere because of the pandemic.

"I'm hoping that, when the fans do come back to football, that Celtic and Rangers can agree that they can have their quota of [away] fans back again.

"When I was there, and you went to Ibrox, you felt you had some company, that you weren't alone when you saw the Celtic fans. And I'm sure Rangers felt exactly the same when they could fill one end of Celtic Park.

"There is the cauldron of it, there is religion in there, you can throw everything into the mix. You can use all sorts of adjectives to describe these games but there is something magical about them.

"There is an intensity that just does not exist anywhere else."
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Fu*k him, he is yesterdays man like the lego eater.
 
Aww Skew said:
Yes there is. 2,500 ensures all ST holders are looked after and would leave circa 1,000-1,500 for segregation

Worked for Young boys
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Do we keep tickets purely for public sale then? I would've thought that everyone in the stadium near enough was on a season ticket these days.
 
Kubala said:
Do we keep tickets purely for public sale then? I would've thought that everyone in the stadium near enough was on a season ticket these days.
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Celtic tickets haven’t went to public sale. Extras were given to RSCs based on their category (who could then give to members), club use (competitions/sponsors etc) and then club staff

To me, all ST holders are looked after and I think ST holders than travel to domestic/euro ways are more entitled to a ticket for parkhead than a member of staff getting an extra ticket for Ibrox to give to a friend etc

**Also, as an extra point - if you asked RSCs if they’d give up the chance of an extra spare for the Ibrox game to have a better chance of a parkhead ticket, I’d wager the vast majority would say yes
 
The set-up of the 2 stadiums gives them an advantage in matching away allocations. Who in their right minds wants that to be the case?
I'd actually be happier if we could put them completely out of camera view, like they do us, but I don't believe that's realistic with policing.
 
Skyy Bluenose said:
The set-up of the 2 stadiums gives them an advantage in matching away allocations. Who in their right minds wants that to be the case?
I'd actually be happier if we could put them completely out of camera view, like they do us, but I don't believe that's realistic with policing.
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Serious question, what difference does it make if they’re shown on camera or not?

I’ve seen multiple people mention it and I can’t get my head round why it’s an issue
 
Aww Skew said:
Celtic tickets haven’t went to public sale. Extras were given to RSCs based on their category (who could then give to members), club use (competitions/sponsors etc) and then club staff

To me, all ST holders are looked after and I think ST holders than travel to domestic/euro ways are more entitled to a ticket for parkhead than a member of staff getting an extra ticket for Ibrox to give to a friend etc

**Also, as an extra point - if you asked RSCs if they’d give up the chance of an extra spare for the Ibrox game to have a better chance of a parkhead ticket, I’d wager the vast majority would say yes
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Members of staff don't get an extra ticket. They get the chance to buy their own season ticket at staff rates but just one.
 
Aww Skew said:
Serious question, what difference does it make if they’re shown on camera or not?

I’ve seen multiple people mention it and I can’t get my head round why it’s an issue
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1. They manage to seat us off camera, so a petty wish.
2. I'd reverse the question and ask, why would you want to see them ON camera?
 
Shawlandsloyal said:
Members of staff don't get an extra ticket. They get the chance to buy their own season ticket at staff rates but just one.
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False. Members of staff were able to apply for tickets for games at Ibrox which then got balloted

I can remember a few years back they pushed the Secondary ticketing sales for a game vs Celtic. From memory around 100 tickets were sold back to the club by ST holders - of those tickets, none made their way to RSCs, they were all used for club use
 
Aww Skew said:
Celtic tickets haven’t went to public sale. Extras were given to RSCs based on their category (who could then give to members), club use (competitions/sponsors etc) and then club staff

To me, all ST holders are looked after and I think ST holders than travel to domestic/euro ways are more entitled to a ticket for parkhead than a member of staff getting an extra ticket for Ibrox to give to a friend etc

**Also, as an extra point - if you asked RSCs if they’d give up the chance of an extra spare for the Ibrox game to have a better chance of a parkhead ticket, I’d wager the vast majority would say yes
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Yes but am I right in thinking that every other seat in Ibrox (bar the ones set aside for away fans every week) is on a season ticket basis given there's a waiting list?
 
Kubala said:
Yes but am I right in thinking that every other seat in Ibrox (bar the ones set aside for away fans every week) is on a season ticket basis given there's a waiting list?
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ST sales are limited to a set % based on league rules, RangersAl would know better than me

But for Celtic games the “spare” allocation doesn’t go to public sale
 
Aww Skew said:
ST sales are limited to a set % based on league rules, RangersAl would know better than me

But for Celtic games the “spare” allocation doesn’t go to public sale
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I'm still not convinced you aren't displacing any season ticket holders. Even comparing it to a European game is false given you have to pay extra and it's an option on top of your existing ticket.
 
The fact this seems to anger them so much pleases me.



Will no doubt be same story when we pump them for the 3rd game at Ibrox in a row at start next season



The usual suspects will get wheeled out say its ruining it.




That's assuming fans are allowed.
 
Aww Skew said:
False. Members of staff were able to apply for tickets for games at Ibrox which then got balloted

I can remember a few years back they pushed the Secondary ticketing sales for a game vs Celtic. From memory around 100 tickets were sold back to the club by ST holders - of those tickets, none made their way to RSCs, they were all used for club use
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Aye ok then. So I didn't have a staff season ticket for 3 years then?
 
Skyy Bluenose said:
I certainly did not say that, but looking up the page, you look like you're just looking for an argument.

Are you the guy I saw on twitter with the half and half Us-them strip? If so, I understand.

If not, do one.
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Not looking for an argument no, had a reasoned debate with a few people and was respectful to those who were respectful to me.

You can do one too, enjoy your evening
 
Kubala said:
I'm still not convinced you aren't displacing any season ticket holders. Even comparing it to a European game is false given you have to pay extra and it's an option on top of your existing ticket.
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Displacing in the sense moving seat, yeah that would need to happen. Though, they’d still have a ticket for the game, albeit in another seat

Not dissimilar to what happens in European games
 
Aww Skew said:
Displacing in the sense moving seat, yeah that would need to happen. Though, they’d still have a ticket for the game, albeit in another seat

Not dissimilar to what happens in European games
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I think I'm not explaining it right.

We've got 50,000 seats 49,000 season ticket holders and we give them 800 seats.

I'm assuming every seat in Ibrox that isn't specifically for away fans every week has a season ticket holder sitting in it. If you're giving them more seats, some of our season ticket holders are missing out. Am I wrong in saying that every seat has a season ticket holder essentially?
 
Robert Marshall said:
But every single fan that buys individual tickets that you say can't get one for Parkhead would now not be able to get one for Ibrox either
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Wouldn’t be able to anyway unless it’s going to be changing? I suppose it may be an incentive for mygers members, in which case I’d concede that would be a spanner in the works
 
Kubala said:
I think I'm not explaining it right.

We've got 50,000 seats 49,000 season ticket holders and we give them 800 seats.

I'm assuming every seat in Ibrox that isn't specifically for away fans every week has a season ticket holder sitting in it. If you're giving them more seats, some of our season ticket holders are missing out. Am I wrong in saying that every seat has a season ticket holder essentially?
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We have Circa 46000 ST holders as that’s the maximum based on league rules. I’m sure a set % of tickets need to be made available for game to game ticket sales
 
Aww Skew said:
It’s not up to the authorities, the police could handle whatever Rangers/Celtic decided

In terms of fan engagement, I don’t think it was done properly but that’s old ground. For it to be properly done, all fans should’ve been consulted but they weren’t
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You are being extremely naive if you don't think the Police have a major say in KO times and Crowd control
 
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