BrownBrogues
Well-Known Member
Why did John Gillian step down.
Caledonian Brewery profits slumped he was need back full time on his job.
Why did John Gillian step down.
Really don't know what to think tbh just loads of conflicted feelings and thoughts running through my head. These two gents are obvious big blue noses, Murray went through a lot of turmoil to wrestle control of the club from Easdale's, Ashley, Green etc and Scott helped provide funds to ensure Ashley's £5m loan was re-paid meaning we could get our retail priorities on track. I'm pretty wary about two such people resigning from our board during a tumultuous time in our club's history. I'm very wary of tales of investors with £20m to put into the club given the fact there has surely been better times to make an investment for a bigger slice / say in the club.
On the flip side of all the above, the Gerrard deal seems to be a definite goer and there's just no way he's agreed to it without a cast iron guarantee that he'll have significant funds to try and completely revamp the team.
Hopefully, this is just a reshuffle and the investment is on the way but I'm conditioned now as a Rangers fan to hope for the best but to expect a kick in the balls.
This thread is utter brain damage.
Nobody knows phuck all.
I understand what you are saying but i was talking about one point and that is Gerrard will have the final say on a player, ie he wont have players thrust upon him, you have since devloped the topic into a whole different conversation about budgets and how much per player etc, completley different conversation and nothing to do with the initial point of him having to take players from Allen.
Then don't.is this 16 pages of nobody having a clue? dont really want to waste my time reading through if so
To concentrate on business and family life.There were also quotes from both him & King in the club statement.very different to today's one.
https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/rifc-plc-statement/
And again you keep talking of investors. . I'm talkiing about my personal choice.It probably might. Can you suggest any?
I'd also suggest that possible investment will have been known about for weeks / months now so it will already have been incorporated in to factors while looking at managers.
Again, you're dragging this away from what an investor is looking for. It's clear the people who are investing have been told of the plan and are keen.
We never set the agenda nor control the narrative in any meaningful way when it comes to things like this.To me that's what's infuriating about this board. They let speculation dangle around for days and the space is always filled with the most pointless, toxic bickering from bears and sniping from everyone else, when a bit of transparency could shut it all down.
If it's positive why not wait until you could announce everything all at once? If it's negative lay the groundwork and let the fans, and lifeblood of the club, know what's happening. If it's neither and it's just that Paul Murray and Barry Scott have decided to leave their stressful lives behind and set up a rum shack in the carribean then say that.
Our board are absolute experts at driving unnecessary speculation.
And again you keep talking of investors. . I'm talkiing about my personal choice.
Also it is the job of our board to go down every avenue and find the best man quakified to bring us the success we all want.
They have chosen a guy that has never managed a club in his life. So he is coming to us to learn his trade whilst on the job.
To me that's what's infuriating about this board. They let speculation dangle around for days and the space is always filled with the most pointless, toxic bickering from bears and sniping from everyone else, when a bit of transparency could shut it all down.
If it's positive why not wait until you could announce everything all at once? If it's negative lay the groundwork and let the fans, and lifeblood of the club, know what's happening. If it's neither and it's just that Paul Murray and Barry Scott have decided to leave their stressful lives behind and set up a rum shack in the carribean then say that.
Our board are absolute experts at driving unnecessary speculation.
We never set the agenda nor control the narrative in any meaningful way when it comes to things like this.
We are a P.R disaster ,in all honesty.
That's always been the nature of forums and particularlly FF. Happy to say I don't know what to think about it all but I see no reason for the thread to be chopped, if you think someone's talking pish it's easy to skim by it and ultimately it will lead to some posters making constructive points with a few even chipping in with some facts (even if they can't reveal their souce)So many people with such strong opinions when the truth is nobody know anything.
This thread is an utter embarrassment and should be chopped.
There isn't any requirement to "make space" for incoming investors and even if there was the timing would be weird. You would just announce the new money and hane a polite note saying X and Y are stepping down tho allow Z a presence on the board.
Said it a few times on this thread. It's very very cold that statement today.
Impersonal and worryingly bland. Written on the hoof.
This was not planned I'm convinced of that. Very worrying.
I didn't say that though. I said me personally i wouldn't go with a rookie gaffer.So going back to the original point I was replying to, Now and Forever said the investor might worry about his cash with a rookie...the outcome is that "the rookie" isn't being left to possibly squander the investors entire deposit and it is, in fact, being controlled by an experienced footballing appointment even if he does have the final say on which one of two options is offered to him for a position. The cash is being controlled so however you want to argue over what the final say is, it's irrelevant as far as the investor is positioned.
Ergo, there's far less for the investor to be concerned about regarding his investment and he can also be happy that his money is being associated with a "brand" name.
The result of having Jim Traynor involved with our club.
Seems like the club is imploding. It wouldn't surprise me if the Gerrard deal
Fell through also
Paul Murray has walked because he's unhappy with the way things are.This comfort blanket stuff about making way for investors etc is bollocks.He's one of King,Park & AJ's oldest allies and he leaves the club with no quotes from him or thanks from King?!Said it a few times on this thread. It's very very cold that statement today.
Impersonal and worryingly bland. Written on the hoof.
This was not planned I'm convinced of that. Very worrying.
So many people with such strong opinions when the truth is nobody know anything.
This thread is an utter embarrassment and should be chopped.
I didn't say that though. I said me personally i wouldn't go with a rookie gaffer.
I also said imo there is no chancea name like Gerrard takes our job without having the final say on players coming in and going.
Paul Murray has walked because he's unhappy with the way things are.This comfort blanket stuff about making way for investors etc is bollocks.He's one of King,Park & AJ's oldest allies and he leaves the club with no quotes from him or thanks from King?!
Does anyone know if Club1872 have been given any clarification on or have the sought any clarification on the resignations ?
All I've been told mate is that he's been pissed off with things for weeks now.You're saying this as fact / know of the circumstances surrounding PM just now?
Paul Murray has walked because he's unhappy with the way things are.This comfort blanket stuff about making way for investors etc is bollocks.He's one of King,Park & AJ's oldest allies and he leaves the club with no quotes from him or thanks from King?!
So going back to the original point I was replying to, Now and Forever said the investor might worry about his cash with a rookie...the outcome is that "the rookie" isn't being left to possibly squander the investors entire deposit and it is, in fact, being controlled by an experienced footballing appointment even if he does have the final say on which one of two options is offered to him for a position. The cash is being controlled so however you want to argue over what the final say is, it's irrelevant as far as the investor is positioned.
Ergo, there's far less for the investor to be concerned about regarding his investment and he can also be happy that his money is being associated with a "brand" name.
How long does it take for Companies House to be notified and them issuing a notice of Director resignation, cause they have it on there site.
Paul Murray has walked because he's unhappy with the way things are.This comfort blanket stuff about making way for investors etc is bollocks.He's one of King,Park & AJ's oldest allies and he leaves the club with no quotes from him or thanks from King?!
You dont count either mate but i'm not twisting your words to suit an agenda like you're doing.But you don't count as you're not in the board or investing.
The point at hand is that investors are clearly keen on the idea of a name like Gerrard.
I wouldn't have gone with Gerrard if there was an alternative with a proven track record.
There isn't though by all accounts.
Gerrard can have the final say on the transfers and I'm sure he's agreed a budget required and is happy with it. It's still going to fall under the remit of the DoF though and he's only going to have the final say on those options. That's not worth getting hung up on though if they've made some form of indication as to the level of targets they're chasing.
Agree 100%
My guess is that it’s all kicking off behind the scenes and going to sh*t
Posters are clinging to rumours of investment as a comfort blanket.
Paul Murray has spent his life wanting on the Ranger board. I wasnt his biggest supporter but he seemed to always have our best interests at heart even if he was a bit too fond of the blue blazer. For his to leave means that something is not at all well.
So your guess is more valid than someone else's rumour!?Agree 100%
My guess is that it’s all kicking off behind the scenes and going to sh*t
Posters are clinging to rumours of investment as a comfort blanket.
The process can be done in 10 minutes, as it can all be done on-line these days.How long does it take for Companies House to be notified and them issuing a notice of Director resignation, cause they have it on there site.
Sick of all this nonsense man. Murray leaving doesn’t sound good to me. I’m not buying into all this new investors stuff.
Not got a clue mate but that is fast.
Still don't believe this was planned.
On Twitter positive spin I think , but doubt he knows anything more in reality about the topic in hand than many other doHas @ID10 commented on this yet
It's as clear as day when his pal Jackson tweets straight after the announcement. Jackson never mentioned Scott, just Murray.All I've been told mate is that he's been pissed off with things for weeks now.
4Lads tweeted that its amicable and a pre-cursor to new appointmentsHas @ID10 commented on this yet
You're saying this as fact / know of the circumstances surrounding PM just now?