Pele claims he was a better player than ‘one skill’ Lionel Messi

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  1. Bonnyloyal

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    Brazilian football legend Pele has launched an astonishing attack on Barcelona star Lionel Messi by claiming he has just ‘one-skill’.

    The three-time World Cup winner claimed he was the better player because he was a more complete performer than the Argentina forward.

    Pele also added that Diego Maradona was a ‘much better’ player than the five-time Ballon D’Or winner as he addressed a wave of assessments of the current crop of the world’s best players

    “How can you make a comparison between a guy who heads the ball well, shoots with the left, shoots with the right and another who only shoots with one leg, only has one skill and doesn’t head the ball well?” Pele told Folha de Sao Paulo when asked about Messi.

    “How can you compare? To compare with Pele, it has to be someone who shoots well with the left, shoots well with the right, and scores headers.”

    He also dismissed any claims that there are similarities between Messi and Maradona, who he believes is one of the greatest players of all time.

    "As far as I’m concerned, Maradona was one of the best players ever. If you ask me, 'Was he better than Messi?' Yes, he was. Much better. [Franz] Beckenbauer, [Johan] Cruyff were also excellent players."
     
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  3. govwalker

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    Doesn't matter none can touch Maradona.
     
  4. scottylad72

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    Messi would more likely protect nazis, the great Pele scored against them with broken/cracked ribs ffs, so no contest really.
     
  5. G-Hallbear

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    He’s done no bad for a one skill/trick pony.

    Daft auld fud.
     
  6. Houlet

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    Maybe he is now, but he WAS the best I have seen. :)
     
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    One skill..... to create or score a goal, from pretty much anywhere & any situation on the park, no matter how many opposition are trying to stop him. Been doing it consistently for what, 14-15 years...not a bad skill tbf.
     
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    Would have Davie Cooper over Messi, Maradona and Pele every day of the week.
     
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    Senile old floppy cock.

    Basically what he’s saying is he could score more with his head and left foot. Given messi’s ridiculous passing, and dribbling ability paired with his vision and penchant for outscoring practically everyone, I seriously doubt floppy cock was a better all rounder.
     
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  11. Lance Uppercut

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    At least Messi can get a hard on...
     
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    I wonder how he'd compare himself to Ronaldo, who does do all those things?

    Anyway, him and the guys he mentioned were the best players in their era, Messi (and Ronaldo) are the greatest players of this era

    Its different times, you can't compare the game in the 60's, 70's, 80's with now. A lot of things are different. And even if you could, people will still have their own opinions
     
  13. millar2318

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    You need to remember that Pele played for one of Europe's best clubs and in one of Europes best leagues for years regularly scoring 40 plus goals a season for them

    Oh no wait......
     
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    Aye the header he scored in the Champions League Final vs Manchester United was shite right enough :D
     
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    Most goals scored in a season by Maradona - 43
    Messi has surpassed this 7 times in the past decade, Messi is the greatest
     
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    Messi is the best there was the best there is and the best there ever will be
     
  17. jigster

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    Pele didn't need a banned growth hormone injected into him as a young teenager to make him the player he was ........
     
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    Your mixing Messi up with CM Punk mate :D
     
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  19. Cooperfan

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    Except that Maradona was a midfielder.
     
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    The hormone wasn't performance enhancing and without it he was predicted to be 4ft 2, instead he's 5ft 6, an inch smaller than Pele, barely an argument.
     
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    He was more of a 10 than just a midfielder
     
  22. seturdaysanny

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    Agreed
     
  23. one rangers one love

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    lady's front bottom no deed yet?

    He cant even keepy uppy now without the aid of Viagra!

     
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    Wasnt banned at the time he used it, messi is the best player I have ever seen
     
  25. govwalker

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    Bollocks.

    But we'll let you believe that. Playing in a generation where the slightest touch is a foul, pitches like bowling greens as opposed to mud baths and absolute hatchet men defenders etc.

    It's not even a contest all from the comfort of Barca in teams full of stars.
     
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    Different era's, but both brilliant and entertaining.
     
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    This i like very much
     
  28. Jaws II

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    I agree with him on Maradona.

    Messi has done all his stuff mostly for one club who have top class players in all positions.
    He has also done nothing at international level, unlike Pele or Maradona.
    They are all ridiculously good but I think Maradona is the best footballer ever.
     
  29. Lono

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    Messi is well protected by modern football rules and referees. If he had to contend with the hatchet-men and professional psychos Pele did he'd never have half the goals he's got.
     
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    It’s Bret Hart actually mate :rolleyes:
     
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  32. one rangers one love

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    I hate all these whos the best footballer ever debates.

    When asked I seriously say Manuel Francisco dos Santos "the little bird" Garrincha

    Not only am I being 100% sincere but he was technically disabled.

    He defo would have got a orange badge for his motor defo.

    Seriously read up on the guy and watch the few clips on him on youtube the things he could do with what you would call a medicine ball compared to these floaters now a day was unbelievable.

    He did lose his virginity to a goat though so probably would have been happy with last nights result.
     
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    I think you'll find it was banned by the IOC , he went from a projected height of 4 foot 11 to 5 foot 7 inches .........

    It may not have been performance enhancing but you can't say he never benefited from the growth steroid or why have it in the 1st instance , ps I'm not doubting his talent and genius
     
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  34. Andy platt

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    For all the young tits slaging of the best player of all time world cup winner 3 times end of .
     
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    All the blood has went to his ....ahem
     
  36. 54ncounting

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    Pele - the greatest ever - a little tad ungracious though about the wee man.
     
  37. Davie Cooper

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    Pele was on a different level from any player IMO, then its Maradona not far behind, as good as Messi is he is still not in their class.
    They played in a different era, defenders aren't allowed to tackle now making the game easier for skilful players.
     
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    Watch Brazil games from 1970 World Cup. Pele is right. I would put most of that team as better than Messi they were just sublime to watch.
     
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    You have to laugh at them.
     
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    messi couldnt lace maradonnas or peles boots, both of them played football in a much tougher era for much weaker teams
     
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    Comparing eras is hugely difficult, almost impossible. However all you can do is say there are a few who are the best of their era the way Pele attacked Messi look a bit like either sour grapes because of his wealth or the ramblings of a really old guy who may be losing his marbles a bit.

    The way he described himself though sounded exactly how I would describe Ronaldo right now.
     
  42. Sam English

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    These wee blue pills must be amazing :D
     
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    Pele is correct . He and maradona are miles ahead of the rest .

    Messi would be 5th or 6th mind you so I think peles comments on him having one skill are frankly ridiculous .

    For me it’s Pele, Maradona, Cryff , Michael Laudrup , Messi in that order .
     
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  45. Eckhailitchenko

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    Pele was better than Messi and Messi much better than Maradona.
     
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  46. imager

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    To be fair if Maradona got the protection players get now he’d have doubled his tally every season,

    And let’s see how many Messi could get Chinged aff his tits :D
     
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  48. Barclay the Bear

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    Pele was a great player, but he never played in Europe, unfortunately as he has got older he has become a bit stupid,
     
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    Pele and Maradona better than Messi - yes - no doubt in my mind.

    Don't think Messi is a one trick player though.
     
  50. simplyzebest

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    Anyone who uses the number racked up by Messi and Ronaldo as proof that they are better players than Maradona or Pele etc. Doesn't understand football. If Pele etc. Played in the game with it's modern rules they'd have insane numbers but the rules were different. Defenders got away with murder. Rules changed to gear the game towards a more attacking style giving forwards all sorts of advantages. I know folk talk about boots, balls and fitness etc. Too but the main factor is the rule changes. You can try to argue otherwise but you'd be wrong and I don't care enough.
     
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