A winner is someone with an appetite for success that doesn't diminish, ever. A few years ago I watched a documentary about the former Liverpool manager Bob Paisley, which said something rather interesting on this: apparently Paisley, if I recall this correctly, when Liverpool won a League championship, for instance, would observe the reactions not long after of individual players- those who looked hungry for more he was likely to keep, those who looked well satisfied and rather pleased with themselves would be, quite rightly, out the door. Heart and Hand was rather interesting last night in relation to this, I felt, and I was reminded of this after listening to it. Again there is a fallacy that winners are bad losers, followed on by the rhetorical cliche "show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser" or something ridiculous like that, which is rather disproved by someone like Jack Nicklaus, the most successful golfer ever. Reading and hearing about his attitude to defeat, which was always gracious, was very enlightening; for Nicklaus, competing, without fear of either losing or winning, was everything; combined with his appetite to win, it made him truly formidable. Perhaps you don't find out about about what makes a winner by how they take defeat, but by how they take success