Thomson was brilliant for us. I loved him. He'd get sent off every week now.I think you're misunderstanding. Not tackles, but their own 'battle' like when Kevin Thomson used to flatten scum players and whisper on their ear "That's just for fucking starters".
No where to be seen on those days mate. But they then turned up and went on a run of result after result. Scoring lots of goals.. Like winners do.
We seem to hit bad spells that last for months. When they have a bad spell it lasts for a few games then they get stuck in and make things happen consistently. I hate them but they are relentless right now.
I have faith the players will go on a winning run again
So would Bournemouth or Norwich. Both of them have much more chance of getting one than us. Same could be said for every other EPL team and half of the Championship. And if we did have one, he would be gone very very quickly.I would love a terry butcher or a richard gough in our team.
at 10 points behind them with not long to go i'm not sure if it will be enough. I live in hope though.I have faith the players will go on a winning run again
Those days are in the past. No player with real quality will see Rangers (or Celtic) as anything other than a stepping stone to the EPL. When was the last time we had a top player stay with us for the best part of their career?
And this is why having players who have won nothing themselves, or done anything of note against a dominant Celtic team, is an odd signing policy.
We have players from Dundee, Hearts, Hamilton, Hibs, Kilmarnock. Why are we filling the team with guys with limited success in this country?
I’m not saying write them off. I was surprised Arfield didn’t have any bevause I’d say he’s a “winner”Before all these players won these trophies do you think they were questioned whether they were "winners"? At some point in their careers they would have won nothing. Therefore it is silly to write off the current bunch because of the same.
Ryan Jack willThose days are in the past. No player with real quality will see Rangers (or Celtic) as anything other than a stepping stone to the EPL. When was the last time we had a top player stay with us for the best part of their career?
As @ClockworkOrange said up the thread, they sign players and surround them with winners and then turn the players they’ve brought in into winnersAre players like Greg Taylor (kilmarnock) or Frimpong (man city youth) "winners" or are they lucky to be joining a team with a strong mentality?
You don’t get player who want to play in Scotland for the rest of their career ffs. There is some exceptions obviously like Brown for the mentally challengedsI remember terry butcher nearly taking the door of the hinges after a defeat to the poets at parkhead... i remember richard gough bubbling like a baby after we won 9 in a row i remember mcoist physically exhausted n near to tears after beating aberdeen for 9 n a row .i dont want a captain who rolls out the same shite on Instagram week after week... i want players that actually care for the institution that is RANGERS FC.. NOT GUYS WHO SEE US AS A STEPPING STONE..
A real good counter, bud.what players have Celtic signed that had won anything previously?
Yep. We need to keep our good players and we need to try and keeping push on. Imagine we won the cup final that we should have, lost out only to an offside goal. The current crop would be called winners, eh?As @ClockworkOrange said up the thread, they sign players and surround them with winners and then turn the players they’ve brought in into winners
It’s a cycle. Just like losing is a cycle that we need to break desperately
My post wasnt really aimed at you mate. Just saying in general termsI’m not saying write them off. I was surprised Arfield didn’t have any bevause I’d say he’s a “winner”
I’d like to agree here but it’s a wee bit impractical.I remember terry butcher nearly taking the door of the hinges after a defeat to the poets at parkhead... i remember richard gough bubbling like a baby after we won 9 in a row i remember mcoist physically exhausted n near to tears after beating aberdeen for 9 n a row .i dont want a captain who rolls out the same shite on Instagram week after week... i want players that actually care for the institution that is RANGERS FC.. NOT GUYS WHO SEE US AS A STEPPING STONE..
I love Ryan Jack, he's our best player. If an EPL team came in with £15m for him I reckon he'd be gone. Fortunately he is massively underrated.Ryan Jack will
Made up guff you read in the papers, that's what it is.
Rangers: Alexander, Whittaker, Weir, Bougherra, Papac, Davis, Mendes, Edu, Lafferty (McCulloch 82), Boyd (Novo 66), Miller (Ferguson 72).
Subs Not Used: McGregor, Naismith, Fleck, Wilson.
That's the team from Tannadice that won the first league title of Walter's 2nd spell. As far as I'm aware, only Ferguson and Novo had ever won a league title before.
I would love a terry butcher or a richard gough in our team.
I have faith the players will go on a winning run again
I'm not sure "winners" are always actually winners, though.
For all that Gerrard was a world class midfielder, his honours list is pretty small for a guy who played football for nearly twenty years. He never won the league and two trophies in ten years. I'm argue that is still a winner, though.
As I would for several in that team. Papac won a league with Vienna. Whittaker was part of an excellent Hibs team.Weir won the cup with Hearts and was part of the Everton defence for years. Mendes was a Champions' League winner, winning the lot with Mourinho. Boyd was top-scorer for Killie, FFS. Miller was an incredible signing and arguably our best player of the late noughties and early tens.
That's a team that complements a mixture of hardened veterans, promising youth players and those who'd achieved success with other SPFL clubs. It's the reason we won three league titles in a row.
Wow wait a minute, “an excellent hibs team” your no getting away way that rubbish haha. What did they win?
Won the Championship down south mate.I’m not saying write them off. I was surprised Arfield didn’t have any bevause I’d say he’s a “winner”
You've not read the first sentence of the post, have you?
But if the opponent knows that they are going in 100% committed to winning the ball it puts a doubt in their mind. Some of our players don't have that commitment and the opposition know it.no one will win their 50/50’s every game
But if the opponent knows that they are going in 100% committed to winning the ball it puts a doubt in their mind. Some of our players don't have that commitment and the opposition know it.
I can’t recall any excellent hibs sides. I remember we stuck 7 past them once
Must not be listed on transfer market because it’s not top flightWon the Championship down south mate.
Excellent might be too effusive but Hibs finished third in 2005, twice pumped us 3-0 at Ibrox in 2006 and reached and won a cup for the first time in 16 years in 2007. Of more importance, though, was the quality of player that they were bringing through, most of whom would go onto have success (or at very least, be signed for) at Rangers and Celtic: Murray, Thomson, Whittaker, Brown, O'Connor, Riordan, Fletcher, Caldwell, Bamba. It's worth bearing in mind that we signed Murray, Thomson and Whittaker and tried to sign Brown and Riordan.
But Aribo, Kamara, morelos, hagi, Kent, katic, Goldson are all young enough to emulate or surpass their success.
Anyone is young enough to become a better player, but that's not the point if you're talking about winners.
The vast majority of this Rangers team are made up of players who would, irrespective of what criteria you bestow upon the idea of a "winner", lack the characteristics that you'd normally associate with the role.
Taking a leaf out of Warburton's book, Aribo was signed from a League One club; Kamara from a team that got relegated at the end of the season; Morelos took a while to hit his best form but has been a great signing; Hagi is still an unknown quantity; Kent wasn't good enough for Liverpool and has had a string of loan spells; Katic from a Croatian team who'd done nothing of note; Goldson's last consistent season for another club was in 2015/16!
When we signed Whittaker and Thomson we were signing good young Scottish players who'd achieved some sense of success in the league to play alongside others who were vastly more experienced, successful and skilful. There was a reason that Smith's first signings upon his return were Weir and Ehiogu - both vastly experienced EPL players with limited to no experience of football up here - and Thomson and Webster. Webster doesn't make the grade and Ehiogu isn't as good as Weir and Cuellar, but Thomson and Weir were magnificent signings that played alongside the rest of the team brilliantly.
The current Rangers team, on the other hand, lacks that on just about every part of the pitch.
I’m sure that’s why arfield, Davis, McGregor and Defoe were brought in alongside all the younger players.
Which may be the case but the Scottish players coming in aren't of the same calibre as they previously were.
But bringing someone like that into a winning dressing room is different to bringing a load of people without experience of winning trophies together and expecting them to suddenly turn into trophy winners.At Celtic but what had any of them won before going to them?
What scottish players would you sign now that are of the calibre of player you are talking about?
We don't have one player that I've seen really wanting to grab the game by the scruff of the neck and control it.
None of them. They don't exist. The players we signed under Smith did things of note for their respective SPFL clubs. The ones we have signed haven't, at least not to the same degree.
So how do you suggest Gerrard fixes that?
None of them. They don't exist. The players we signed under Smith did things of note for their respective SPFL clubs. The ones we have signed haven't, at least not to the same degree.
Walter Smith signed plenty questionable players second time around, especially when it came to ability; Broadfoot, Alexander, McCulloch, Lafferty, Whittaker, Cousin etc. He pretty much instantly moulded them into winners.
Edu, Papac, Adam, Bougherra... all became winners under Smith. It's not always down to a player, the manager has a big part in developing a winning mentality within his squad.
Do we see that under Gerrard. Right now, no.
And they've got world beaters who couldn't get a game at a poor benfica and spurs team etc, and a left back from kilmarnock and a mid fielder from motherwell etc,etcAnd this is why having players who have won nothing themselves, or done anything of note against a dominant Celtic team, is an odd signing policy.
We have players from Dundee, Hearts, Hamilton, Hibs, Kilmarnock. Why are we filling the team with guys with limited success in this country?