Copland Rd =Interesting thread, been meaning to start a similar one for some time. Of course stuff like our player-related songs are easily identified (Scotty Arfield - Saturday Night, Germain Defoe - Hey Baby, etc), but there's a few more Loyalist ones I'd like to know the origins of.
The Sash is an interesting one, because I think it's original, but the tune used to sound quite different when it was first written in the 1920s. Some flute bands still played it that way in the 50s and 60s.
Derry's Walls - God Bless the Prince of Wales.
Billy Boys - Marching Through Georgia (though there's also a version where the verses are sung to the 18th c. tune Ye Sons of Albion).
Follow Follow - I Will Follow Jesus.
No Pope of Rome - Home on the Range.
The Bouncy - Cock of the North.
The Protestant Boys - Lilliburlero.
I Was Born Under a Union Jack - Wandering Star.
Father's Advice - Fields of Athenry.
Crossmaglen - tarrier version is the original.
Will You Stand - a tarrier song about Bobby Sands.
Copland Road - old Scottish tune (can't remember the name just now).
Four Lads Had a Dream - Sloop John B.
Flute for 50 Pence - John Hark.
Heroes of the UVF - Glory Glory.
C Company UVF - Beautiful Sunday.
Not sure if We're Coming is related to the Tartan Fanny Army's We'll Be Coming?
A lot of tunes also reuse the same tune, eg. "Gibraltar" is pretty much just "The Old Orange Flute." Anyone else noted that Hearts' "Hearts Song" is also actually just "The Old Orange Flute?"
One I've always wanted to know is the origin of Number One Platoon, I'm convinced it's a pre-existing Irish song. Would also be interested to know the origins of King Billy's On the Wall and Build My Gallows. Here Lies a Soldier also dates back to the 70s but not sure if it's original.
If anyone can actually provide evidence of an Orange Lodge existing in Crossmaglen then it would have a bit of meaning to it, but if not then it's just nonsense, just like a lot of other loyalist songs sadly
A very similar melody but score does stray slightly = Green grow the rushes oI doubt it, I'm no Burns expert, but its always been my understanding that Burns was only a lyricist and most of the songs were put to existing melodies. Willing to be contradicted on this one.
Wasn't aware of that one! Must admit, I chuckled.“It’s magic you know Rangers and Catholics don’t go” stolen from pilot.
The British airways ad “we take good care of you,fly the flag” was changed to “we hate the ira %^*& the pope,%^*& the pope”
Who says our song book hasn’t cleaned up
I am a bluenose is to the tune of the hymn "we have an anchor"I know a few songs are stolen from the American Civil war period.
Billy Boys is Marching Through Georgia. We also sing the Sash to Halls of Montezuma. The original tune to the Sash I’ve seen the US army marching to, so I assume both versions of the Sash are derived from America.
Follow Follow is a church hymn.
I’m wondering where our other songs originate from. Not sure about Blue Sea of Ibrox.
What songs aren’t original that we sing? I’ve got Billy Boys, Follow Follow and the Sash (assuming original version is from America).
Long may it continue!Many songs cross over, especially football songs, our own cultural melodies lists are huge, if you research the likes of Richard Hayward or our Ulster Scots music but as has been said what is unacceptable is when words are taken with only the slightest of alterations ie as said 'will you stand' & 'crossmaglen' cringeworthy stuff for sure ! Lazy loyalism in those writings for sure.
I notice many of our singers starting to pick up a guitar more which is a breath of fresh air, instead of the karaoke kings & queens sticking a backing tape on & thinking they are the Dogs Bs !!
Indeed. F**k Crossmaglen.
Going to check out all the karaoke version I can find
Quite possible I’ve picked up the start steaming and just went with it in my head lol I’ll have another go of it when the Albion reopensGoing to check out all the karaoke version I can find
It's not Rod Stewart's. I think Iain and Gavin Sutherland would take issue with this as Gavin Sutherland wrote it and they recorded it in 1972 as The Sutherland Brothers long before Rod Stewart recorded it in 1975. He recorded it after his live in girlfriend Dee Harrington saw the Sutherland Brothers on The Old Grey Whistle Test on 20th June 1972 and told him it was a great song and he should ask if he could record it.Whisper this one - “We are Rangers, super Rangers...” is Rod Stewart’s Sailing.
When I hear it I just try and blank it out. Its absolute confirmed proof that most of those singing it have absolutely no idea about Loyalism. It's beyond embarrassing.
The F**k Jobby Sands add on totally destroyed what was a cracking loyalist song. We were singing it for over a year before Timmy fans campaigned in thei Celtic view to adopt the original song FOA in response to it.Always annoys me how this always finishes without singing the last line now!
I can see Father's advice going the same way eventually, the last section after FBSHD is noticeable quieter as time goes on.