Rangers/Loyalist Songs - Tunes We’ve Stolen

BertieRFC

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Iirc build my gallows comes from a song called bunch of thyme sung by foster and Allen who were in the charts in the 70’s/80’s
Here lies a soldier wasn’t out till the early 80’s I remember buying the single outside the Ibrox subway and the song caught on fairly quickly.
Yes I believe Build My Gallows is an adaptation of this, it shares part of the tune but not the chorus.

I've always loved that song for the tune, but people weren't ever actually hanged for fighting the IRA were they? A wee bit cringe!
 

Coop1872

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Some gave all (Trevor King) is a Billy Ray Cyrus song.

And it's Glasow Rangers, Glasgow Rangers FC, popular in the 80's, is The Wild Rover.
 

Yorkhill_True_Blues

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Some gave all (Trevor King) is a Billy Ray Cyrus song.

And it's Glasow Rangers, Glasgow Rangers FC, popular in the 80's, is The Wild Rover.
That top one a close mate of mine can be found hugging a Rangers bottle of vodka singing this....whilst intermittently advising his other half how much he loves Rangers.

@Barryhopez not abuse directed at you this time but you know the guy.

If said guy is looking in.......Trevor King is probably one of your most focussed song :D

"Never gets the recognition it deserves"
 

Marstonbear

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Fans from the 80s will no doubt remember “I’d walk a million miles for one of your goals” which uses the tune from My Mammy by Al Jolson and “Glory, Glory that’s a hell of a way to die” which takes the tune from John Brown’s Body.

We also used to sing “Hooray, hooray, %^*& the IRA” using the tune of Boney M’s Holiday.
 

ThorntonMM

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I know a few songs are stolen from the American Civil war period.

Billy Boys is Marching Through Georgia. We also sing the Sash to Halls of Montezuma. The original tune to the Sash I’ve seen the US army marching to, so I assume both versions of the Sash are derived from America.

Follow Follow is a church hymn.

I’m wondering where our other songs originate from. Not sure about Blue Sea of Ibrox.

What songs aren’t original that we sing? I’ve got Billy Boys, Follow Follow and the Sash (assuming original version is from America).
The original version of the Sash is not American.
 

ThorntonMM

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I've always thought that diddly dee music etc was there 'culture' and thats why a long of songs originated from them.

However, flute bands is our culture which is why when you flip it, they don't come anywhere near close in quality to our bands.

However, on YouTube there is a folk group called 'Houl yer whisht' that plays a lot of original Irish songs but they are all about Northern Ireland and our history.
The are Ulster Scots
 

ThorntonMM

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Where does it originate from?
There was an investigation into its origins on Radio Ulster a few years ago. It was firstly believed to have come from an old song the Hat my father wore, but it seems there were examples of the Sash being sung before then so it's most probably an original tune.
 

dublinbluenose

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Fans from the 80s will no doubt remember “I’d walk a million miles for one of your goals” which uses the tune from My Mammy by Al Jolson and “Glory, Glory that’s a hell of a way to die” which takes the tune from John Brown’s Body.

We also used to sing “Hooray, hooray, %^*& the IRA” using the tune of Boney M’s Holiday.
“It’s magic you know Rangers and Catholics don’t go” stolen from pilot.
The British airways ad “we take good care of you,fly the flag” was changed to “we hate the ira %^*& the pope,%^*& the pope”
Who says our song book hasn’t cleaned up:p
 

Saltcoats_Loyal

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Interesting thread, been meaning to start a similar one for some time. Of course stuff like our player-related songs are easily identified (Scotty Arfield - Saturday Night, Germain Defoe - Hey Baby, etc), but there's a few more Loyalist ones I'd like to know the origins of.

The Sash is an interesting one, because I think it's original, but the tune used to sound quite different when it was first written in the 1920s. Some flute bands still played it that way in the 50s and 60s.
Derry's Walls - God Bless the Prince of Wales.
Billy Boys - Marching Through Georgia (though there's also a version where the verses are sung to the 18th c. tune Ye Sons of Albion).
Follow Follow - I Will Follow Jesus.
No Pope of Rome - Home on the Range.
The Bouncy - Cock of the North.
The Protestant Boys - Lilliburlero.
I Was Born Under a Union Jack - Wandering Star.
Father's Advice - Fields of Athenry.
Crossmaglen - tarrier version is the original.
Will You Stand - a tarrier song about Bobby Sands.
Copland Road - old Scottish tune (can't remember the name just now).
Four Lads Had a Dream - Sloop John B.
Flute for 50 Pence - John Hark.
Heroes of the UVF - Glory Glory.
C Company UVF - Beautiful Sunday.
Not sure if We're Coming is related to the Tartan Fanny Army's We'll Be Coming?
A lot of tunes also reuse the same tune, eg. "Gibraltar" is pretty much just "The Old Orange Flute." Anyone else noted that Hearts' "Hearts Song" is also actually just "The Old Orange Flute?"

One I've always wanted to know is the origin of Number One Platoon, I'm convinced it's a pre-existing Irish song. Would also be interested to know the origins of King Billy's On the Wall and Build My Gallows. Here Lies a Soldier also dates back to the 70s but not sure if it's original.
Grandfathers Clock is the same tune as Number 1 Platoon
 

Beswgers

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Hearts song is ‘Mud Mud Glorious Mud’.

Can remember ‘We Are Coming’ being a Partick Proddy boys FB song being sung in the Rosevale, long before the tartan trannies sang it.
The Hearts song is a hymn - Blessed Assurance.

Had I Will Follow Jesus played at my wedding. Subtle but staunch.
 

Bordersbear

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“It’s magic you know Rangers and Catholics don’t go” stolen from pilot.
The British airways ad “we take good care of you,fly the flag” was changed to “we hate the ira %^*& the pope,%^*& the pope”
Who says our song book hasn’t cleaned up:p
I wont repeat it but there was a song from the KP nuts advert which would get you hung drawn and quartered today.
 

Bordersbear

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Sandy in royal blue - A bicycle made for two
Orange Wings - Ballad of the green berets
3 popes gone and the queen lives on - Holiday Boney M
 

Northampton Lodger

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when we sang Fathers Advice one of the Celtic Directors wrote an article in the Celtic View appealing to them to sing Fields of Athenry and they printed the words. Always remember my ex brother in law showing me the article. Can picture the director but can't get the name. Round about the time of that Michael Kelly or maybe just before,

Tom Grant - Google helped me
 

The Canny Man

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when we sang Fathers Advice one of the Celtic Directors wrote an article in the Celtic View appealing to them to sing Fields of Athenry and they printed the words. Always remember my ex brother in law showing me the article. Can picture the director but can't get the name. Round about the time of that Michael Kelly or maybe just before,
To be fair to Michael Kelly (there’s something I never say) he declared a few years ago that in his opinion there was no offence to be taken from ‘No Pope of Rome’.
 

dublinbluenose

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when we sang Fathers Advice one of the Celtic Directors wrote an article in the Celtic View appealing to them to sing Fields of Athenry and they printed the words. Always remember my ex brother in law showing me the article. Can picture the director but can't get the name. Round about the time of that Michael Kelly or maybe just before,

Tom Grant - Google helped me
Most tims had never heard fields of athenrye.primarily It was largely sung by Munster rugby fans despite athenrye actually in county Galway
 

Bearskin

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Interesting thread, been meaning to start a similar one for some time. Of course stuff like our player-related songs are easily identified (Scotty Arfield - Saturday Night, Germain Defoe - Hey Baby, etc), but there's a few more Loyalist ones I'd like to know the origins of.

The Sash is an interesting one, because I think it's original, but the tune used to sound quite different when it was first written in the 1920s. Some flute bands still played it that way in the 50s and 60s.
Derry's Walls - God Bless the Prince of Wales.
Billy Boys - Marching Through Georgia (though there's also a version where the verses are sung to the 18th c. tune Ye Sons of Albion).
Follow Follow - I Will Follow Jesus.
No Pope of Rome - Home on the Range.
The Bouncy - Cock of the North.
The Protestant Boys - Lilliburlero.
I Was Born Under a Union Jack - Wandering Star.
Father's Advice - Fields of Athenry.
Crossmaglen - tarrier version is the original.
Will You Stand - a tarrier song about Bobby Sands.
Copland Road - old Scottish tune (can't remember the name just now).
Four Lads Had a Dream - Sloop John B.
Flute for 50 Pence - John Hark.
Heroes of the UVF - Glory Glory.
C Company UVF - Beautiful Sunday.
Not sure if We're Coming is related to the Tartan Fanny Army's We'll Be Coming?
A lot of tunes also reuse the same tune, eg. "Gibraltar" is pretty much just "The Old Orange Flute." Anyone else noted that Hearts' "Hearts Song" is also actually just "The Old Orange Flute?"

One I've always wanted to know is the origin of Number One Platoon, I'm convinced it's a pre-existing Irish song. Would also be interested to know the origins of King Billy's On the Wall and Build My Gallows. Here Lies a Soldier also dates back to the 70s but not sure if it's original.
I remember being at Tyncastle in the main stand. We used to get a section of tickets there when it was standing only behind the goals. When they started playing the Hearts song before kick off, we all belted out the 'Tooraloo' etc part. To be fair there were a few Jambos around us and they all had a laugh. Get locked up now for such frivolity.
 
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