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Sorry. Can’t agree with that one.Stuart Munro
He deserved to, maybe, make a squad on form though.
Sorry. Can’t agree with that one.Stuart Munro
Terry’s a shoo in for the Hall of Fame ffs!And his brother Terry
Who was the competition at the time? Stewart McKimmie?Alex Clelland?
Dave Smith was brilliant especially in Barcelona assisted with 2 goals and mentored D J through the game.Harold Davis
Ridiculous that Alex MacDonald and Dave Smith were awarded just 1 Cap each (in a Friendly), whilst they were at Rangers
He's no finished he's only 28 !!!!Antti Niemi
Trying to remember.......McNamara........McKimmie before that possiblyWho was the competition at the time? Stewart McKimmie?
McNamara most likely. I was thinking Graeme Alexander but he was a bit later, more towards Vogts era.Who was the competition at the time? Stewart McKimmie?
I’m trying to remember too mate. Alec, on form, might’ve made a squad or two. When he was playing well say 95-96, I would’ve thought that McKimmie would’ve easily kept him out. 97? Jackie McNamara? Hmmmm. I dunno.Trying to remember.......McNamara........McKimmie before that possibly
Just checked the France 98 squad. McNamara was the only orthodox right back. Christian Dailly probably the other optionMcNamara most likely. I was thinking Graeme Alexander but he was a bit later, more towards Vogts era.
In many ways John Brown was not only the architype Scots player but an example of a great one.John Brown is the major stand out for me. He could play in just about any position, and you know he would have given 100% - a great utility man and you need that at international level.
However he was bypassed for the likes of Tosh McKinlay, Tom Boyd, Brian Irvine, Derek Whyte and many other diddies.
Craig burley was playing RB for the first two games at France 98, McNamara came on during the Norway game which released him to get the goal.Just checked the France 98 squad. McNamara was the only orthodox right back. Christian Dailly probably the other option
At a time when Brown was being selected at centre back by WS, and Dave McPherson was largely deployed at right back, McPherson was regularly called up for Scotland squads.John Brown is the major stand out for me. He could play in just about any position, and you know he would have given 100% - a great utility man and you need that at international level.
However he was bypassed for the likes of Tosh McKinlay, Tom Boyd, Brian Irvine, Derek Whyte and many other diddies.
I’m trying to remember too mate. Alec, on form, might’ve made a squad or two. When he was playing well say 95-96, I would’ve thought that McKimmie would’ve easily kept him out. 97? Jackie McNamara? Hmmmm. I dunno.
He probably deserved some recognition for playing well, but I’d be inclined to file him as a backup needed in an injury crisis.
Nice bloke though.
Edit. Abiding memory of Alec. Header at breezeblock boulevard and booting Del Piero after he just been megged.
1990 Roy Aitken went to the World Cup and Neale Cooper was at Rangers, although I agree his early career with Aberdeen should have seen him capped.As an Aberdeen player? Then yes. Especially when you factor in Roy Aitken and his prolonged involvement in the Scotland team.
Do we think that was Clelland’s best period in a blue jersey?Craig burley was playing RB for the first two games at France 98, McNamara came on during the Norway game which released him to get the goal.
Craig burley was playing RB for the first two games at France 98, McNamara came on during the Norway game which released him to get the goal.
Do we think that was Clelland’s best period in a blue jersey?
Correct.Bobby Russell.
Scandalous!
Yes, Gordon Smith scored the second against Juve.Didn't he score against Juventus that year? Very good player, on Youtube there's footage of a goal he scored against Celtic, at Ibrox, and that was the mark of a very good player to score that type of goal.
To my knowledge Brown got a single call up for a match against Portugal, never seen any minutes and thus phoned the manager telling him he wished to no longer be considered.At a time when Brown was being selected at centre back by WS, and Dave McPherson was largely deployed at right back, McPherson was regularly called up for Scotland squads.
As much as I’d like to be able to claim that I watched the documentary on wed night and Burley was complaining about itGood memory that mate!
I would’ve thought 96-97?I'd say so, 8/9 in a row playing on the right with Laudrup.
Indeed, I've known JB since his Hamilton days, I think in his case he was viewed by Brown as a bit ''difficult'', not one of the team, which seems ludicrous given his standing in an all conquering Rangers side.To my knowledge Brown got a single call up for a match against Portugal, never seen any minutes and thus phoned the manager telling him he wished to no longer be considered.
Incredibly he never got a cap.
It seemed the Scotland regime in those days were much against “strong characters” with a preference of guys who are just happy to be there doing what they are told.Indeed, I've known JB since his Hamilton days, I think in his case he was viewed by Brown as a bit ''difficult'', not one of the team, which seems ludicrous given his standing in an all conquering Rangers side.
Craig Brown and Andy Roxburgh before him were schoolteachers. The levels of contempt that people like Souness and Gough have for them is off the charts and rightly so if you ask me.It seemed the Scotland regime in those days were much against “strong characters” with a preference of guys who are just happy to be there doing what they are told.
A wee anecdote from that period. Scotland were playing a match at Ibrox, and as most of us know the home dressing room is much bigger than the the away in fact bigger than Hampden also. Brown taped off an area to reduce its dimensions to that of Hampden thinking it made him appear super efficient and ''on the ball'' whilst the majority of the players were thinking what a prick.It seemed the Scotland regime in those days were much against “strong characters” with a preference of guys who are just happy to be there doing what they are told.
Craig Brown and Andy Roxburgh before him were schoolteachers. The levels of contempt that people like Souness and Gough have for them is off the charts and rightly so if you ask me.
Wee Craig is currently being retrofitted with some imbued managerial greatness by BBC PQ.
Was it Brown that wander about the changing room with a felt tip pen, colouring in the tape players wore on their socks?.A wee anecdote from that period. Scotland were playing a match at Ibrox, and as most of us know the home dressing room is much bigger than the the away in fact bigger than Hampden also. Brown taped off an area to reduce its dimensions to that of Hampden thinking it made him appear super efficient and ''on the ball'' whilst the majority of the players were thinking what a prick.
Biggest whoosh I’ve ever, ever seenDidn't really read the question did you
According to, if I remember correctly, Frank Bon Viveur McAvennie. Although with that erse, you wouldn’t put your mortgage on it being true.Was it Brown that wander about the changing room with a felt tip pen, colouring in the tape players wore on their socks?.
Who was keeping him out the team?Davie Robertson was only capped 3 times. Thats a staggeringly low number considering we were winning 9 in a row and he was a huge part of that down the left with God
He got 1 cap in a friendly I believe
Tom Boyd and Tosh McKinlay.Who was keeping him out the team?
Once referred to as “a left back specialist” or something along those lines by Brown.Tom Boyd and Tosh McKinlay.
Tom BoydWho was keeping him out the team?
Once referred to as “a left back specialist” or something along those lines by Brown.
It was kind of himself after he told Craig Brown that he wasn’t joining squads if he wasn’t going to be playing!Who was keeping him out the team?
And by that, Brown meant a left footed left back as opposed to a right footed one in Tom Boyd.Once referred to as “a left back specialist” or something along those lines by Brown.
Played 2 games thoughJimmy Millar who only got what could be called 3/4s Cap due to the game being abandoned due to the thuggery of the Austrians.
Stuart Kennedy was reliable and underrated imo.We had many uncapped players when Scotland had many excellent players. We tend to big up our players (as does every supporter of every other team).
I remember a friend going to live and work in Aberdeen. He was back visiting and we were pissing ourselves because the Aberdeen fans thought Stuart Kennedy (right back) should get capped. He got capped and was actually a good player, playing twice in 1978 WC finals.
I remember cringing at that. If ever a sentence sums up that amateur wee arsehole, it’s that.I remember a World Cup qualifier away in Greece where we got beat 1-0. After the match Brown was asked about the game and he said "we won more corners than them!"...
Brown's time was up when he let a 2 goal lead go against a 10 man Belgium team. Useless.