TN8
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We asked for VAR in 2019.Yes we were lucky as %^*& today. Totally got away with one.
We asked for VAR in 2019.Yes we were lucky as %^*& today. Totally got away with one.
You should probably get your facts right before calling anyone embarrassing, Colak was offside ffs he was ahead of the ball when it was played, it doesn’t matter that it was backwards. It’s already been cleared up multiple times.
Did the rule change?Post #26 has the current rules. Give it a read.
You have to be behind the ball, even if it’s played backwards because otherwise you’re ahead of the ball and the defenders so are coming back from an offside position to receive the ball.Did the rule change?
He was def offside then.. Learn something new!
The rule hasn't changed. You can't be offside if you're behind the ball. If you're ahead of the ball and in an offside position then you're offside even if it's played backwards.Did the rule change?
He was def offside then.. Learn something new!
This should be a sticky. You are correct, it cannot be emphasised enough; you cannot be offside if you are behind the ball. The misunderstanding about backward passes has been around forever.The rule hasn't changed. You can't be offside if you're behind the ball. If you're ahead of the ball and in an offside position then you're offside even if it's played backwards.
very goodSky are getting good at that.
Nope my granddaughter doesn’t understand it eitherAm I the only person who doesn’t fully understand the offside rules nowadays anyway.
Second phase of play, what is that all about.
Livi seem to have the knack of picking up big physical strikers that are a handful. Menga, Jet, now this lad. Long may it continue because he'll cause them plenty problems.Been impressed with that big boy up front at Livingston.
He will cause a lot of problems, Hopefully to the Shettleston harriers.
Chalked off, not choppedHe was well off but it makes up for his Livi goal being chopped off.
Interesting take. Some posters were using this exact rule last week to state Morelos was offside for his goal despite their defender blocking the original pass which then deflected towards him instead of Arfield as it wasn't an intentional pass. As you say, in this situation Matondo tries to win the ball or at least block a clearance and gets his toe on it just before the defender, the fact it then unintentionally reaches Colak and he scores from it should see the aforementioned posters above agreeing with you wholeheartedly on this one. I've a feeling that won't be the case however, and they'll want their cake and eat it by viewing both as offside though, funny that.Did Matondo tackle the player rather than pass it. It was more of a instinctive stretch than a pass and Colak definitely didn’t get an advantage by being in an offside position as he had to run away from goal to receive it.
Law 11 - Offside: ‘deliberate play’ guidelines clarified | IFAB
www.theifab.com
- The player had time to coordinate their body movement, i.e. it was not a case of instinctive stretching or jumping, or a movement that achieved limited contact/control
What is this crap from Stewart now about bringing in youth .does he or did he mention this with Celtic ?.found the comment very srange
Well there is one poster that never stops going on about it.I was reading on here earlier that apparently he scrored a goal against Livi that was incorrectly chopped off. But posters don't like to talk about it much.
Chalked off, not chopped
Consecutive posts. Fucking love this place.Goal at Livi was chopped off incorrectly, we are told these things even themselves out over the course of a season.
But he was ahead of the play. He was offside.He's onside, the ball didn't go forward. Some people need to learn the offside rule
One hundred percent.For me, he’s clearly offside given the rule explanation.
The old adage that things even themselves out eventually is true in this instance as his goal at Livvy was clearly level and should have stood.
Luckily in both instances the result wasn’t affected by the wrong decisions.
Still think Morelos was onside last week as that ball wasn’t heading to him initially.
For me, he’s clearly offside given the rule explanation.
The old adage that things even themselves out eventually is true in this instance as his goal at Livvy was clearly level and should have stood.
Luckily in both instances the result wasn’t affected by the wrong decisions.
Still think Morelos was onside last week as that ball wasn’t heading to him initially.
Utter pish.Yes it does, if the ball doesn't go forward it doesn't matter where he is
And if you read through the thread I've admitted I was wrongUtter pish.
Amazes me the certainty folk speak with when they couldn’t be further wrong.
The direction of the ball is irrelevant.
Agree 100%. Not offside, as it was not a forward pass. No surprise the Sportscene "experts" don't even know the rules.Ball doesn’t go forward from Matondo in my view.
There is no such law regarding offside. It’s about the receiving players position not the direction of the pass.Agree 100%. Not offside, as it was not a forward pass. No surprise the Sportscene "experts" don't even know the rules.
I finished playing in 2000 after 14+ years of mostly highland league games.So when did the forward/backwards pass rule change?
When I played the game you couldn't be offside from a ball played back to you.
Its even more surprising that so many dedicated and loyal followers of football posting on here don't know the rules. In this instance, just for once, Stewart was correct. It was offside - as per the rules I posted all the way back at post #26.Agree 100%. Not offside, as it was not a forward pass. No surprise the Sportscene "experts" don't even know the rules.
Some people think this is a recent law change - it is not. I remember checking the offside law in the evening times wee red book in the early eighties to confirm that it was nothing to do with the direction of the ball.As per post #26. It doesn’t matter if it goes backwards these days. Colak is in an offside position, as per the rules, when it’s played. Therefore as soon as he becomes involved in active play it’s an offence.
I am not sure anyone knows the offside rules anymore they have changed them so often, and made them so complicated and nuanced over the years.Do u even know the offside rule?
What in the name of f*ck are you on about man?!Thanks for posting this, first I've seen it back. I actually think he's onside looking closely at that. Follow the cut of the grass and don't just look at how far in front of the others that angle makes him out to be, and you see the defender marking Matondo has his foot pulled right back in an attempt to clear the ball just as Matondo gets his foot on it. It's extremely close, but I genuinely think he's playing him on.
First glance I also thought offside, no question, then I looked closer at the point it's frozen in the clip and changed my mind. The grass lines, if you look at them, make it pretty obvious you aren't looking straight across a line with Colak standing a mile offside and isn't as clear cut as it first appears. The defender Matondo tackles at the far side of the box has his foot pulled back ready to clear the ball and his foot (visible in the picture underneath the elbow of the defender next to Colak when it freezes) and Colak's foot look equidistant in relation to the cut of the grass and distance between them. It's one for Gary Neville style black lines to see if he is 100% on or off, I'm just saying it's not as obvious an offside as that angle makes it out to be. Tbf I've changed my mind about 50 times on it since.What in the name of f*ck are you on about man?!
Off side and handball there is always a debate about the two issues,Best left to the Refs and the all knowing pundits.I am not sure anyone knows the offside rules anymore they have changed them so often, and made them so complicated and nuanced over the years.
Prick delivers ear AIDSFirst up tonight. Squeaky Liam commentating
I bet he’s mentioned Celtic alreadyPrick delivers ear AIDS
Not watching that shite.I bet he’s mentioned Celtic already
LikewiseNot watching that shite.
Not a fan then?I'm not a guy that condones violence, but I'd absolutely love to punch the fook right out of that Liam McLeod's coupon until there was absolutely nothing left but a pile of tattie mush. What an irritating horrible little beast loving bastard of a lady's front bottom that he is. Screeching like a wee lassie on that commentary continually fawning over those paedos regardless whether they are playing or not