Would be better coaching the understanding again. Plenty of good jobs in that area.Beale’s reputation as a coach is very good. Massive difference between that and being the main man. I wonder if he would be willing to admit that and going back to being the right hand man rather than the main man?
His reputation as a coach was clear before he even came to us. Just couldn’t seem to handle the pressure of being the manager of us.Interesting watch, Les Ferdinand is the guest and talks about how impressed he was with Beale when he recruited him at QPR and him knocking back Wolves but leaving for us. Seems he's a good talker, coach and jumped to too big a job too soon.
He's like Lee Johnson's long lost twin.He's the sort of man whose talk impresses idiots. Buzzwords, cliches, management speak etc.
Can't believe some still fall for it.
First post nails it ! One that just keeps talking trying to confuse you with pointless facts and stuff!Used car salesman.
He really should.Beale’s reputation as a coach is very good. Massive difference between that and being the main man. I wonder if he would be willing to admit that and going back to being the right hand man rather than the main man?
Not the first good coach who couldn't make it as a manager. Plenty of really good managers who haven't been the best coaches too. Saw a thing with Viv Anderson saying the extent of Brian Clough's coaching was having them run round the pitch. He earned his money in the dressing room on matchday.His reputation as a coach was clear before he even came to us. Just couldn’t seem to handle the pressure of being the manager of us.
Beale is a modern day Rodgers. Decent coaches, talk jobbies.
Started the thread because a new podcast and figure in the game was very positive about his work at QPR, from info inside the club and players and how they were deflated when he left.No harm to the op but this'll prompt another discussion about a guy who sold himself as best he could, landed a plum job and was subsequently found out.
It's like a scab that won't heal because it keeps getting picked at.
I understand that mate. He's such a divisive figure, it'll always provoke debate and a lot of it is old ground.Started the thread because a new podcast and figure in the game was very positive about his work at QPR, from info inside the club and players and how they were deflated when he left.
not buying the good coach malarky
hes an out and out fraud
This.He's the sort of man whose talk impresses idiots. Buzzwords, cliches, management speak etc.
Can't believe some still fall for it.
Who?To be fair he's worked from grass roots up and with hundreds of professional footballers who praise his coaching, loved his training variation etc, they can't all be wrong and know what's required more than you or I do..
That he didn't suit the Rangers managers job doesn't mean he can't coach.
His reputation on here was/is very good mate. That might've been backed up by the odd testimonial from then current players or other people in the game.Beale’s reputation as a coach is very good. Massive difference between that and being the main man. I wonder if he would be willing to admit that and going back to being the right hand man rather than the main man?
Who?
As much as I dislike Rodgers I have to disagree with that.Beale is a modern day Rodgers. Decent coaches, talk jobbies.
I see this posted all the time in Beale's thread.Pretty much every Rangers player during Gerrard's time for starters.
Well saidHe spent £8m on Dessers and Lammers.
Nothing else needs said about the man.
You’ve got to be careful with that because the majority of the Rangers support fell for it. We thought we knew what we were getting because of his time here before.He's the sort of man whose talk impresses idiots. Buzzwords, cliches, management speak etc.
Can't believe some still fall for it.
Yeah, it’s the way he speaks as a manger that is the problem.You’ve got to be careful with that because the majority of the Rangers support fell for it. We thought we knew what we were getting because of his time here before.
Also, he is an impressive listen. Listen to him on podcasts of his time when he was a Rangers coach and later, and his views on community and looking after footballers is bang on.
But for whatever reason his mindset switches when he becomes a manager. It’s like the coach didn’t exist.
Beale is a modern day Rodgers. Decent coaches, talk jobbies.
I see this posted all the time in Beale's thread.
How does the subject of a 1st team coach come up hundreds of times in players interviews?
I don't even know who big Phil's assistant is, but heard (probably) hundreds of times about how Beale was this elite coach.
I'm not denying they exist. Like I believe it was with Gerrard, when he was praising Beale to the heavens, there's a good chance they were simply just talking up a guy they liked that was looking to move into management.All you would have had to do was listen to players interviews at the time, I don't know how you would have missed them.
Were they? How would any of us know this? *interviews after Beale got the job don't count*The players liked his coaching and were buzzing when he got the managers role initially, it never worked out, he doesn't seem cut out for management, but he had/has a very good reputation as a coach.
@Class of 72 is just laughing at comments.I don’t like shark face at all but that’s an insult to a good football manager, laughable actually if you are being serious.
Do people understand what I said was (kinda) tounge in cheek. Both are jobby talking gobshites tho.@Class of 72 is just laughing at comments.
to compare Rodgers to Beale as a manager is just plain stupid.
*tongueDo people understand what I said was (kinda) tounge in cheek. Both are jobby talking gobshites tho.
Do people understand what I said was (kinda) tounge in cheek. Both are jobby talking gobshites tho.
I’ve heard second hand that what Ainsworth took over at QPR was an utter shambles.In hindsight Beale should have stayed at QPR with their lower expectations
He is the kind of manager that needs time to embed his ideas as was proven by most of our squad saying things were overcomplicated
You don't get time at Rangers and even Sunderland to a lesser extent
He should start from scratch again at a League 1 or 2 club and he will probably do well
Charlton, Reading or the likes that have a bit of potential
I'm not denying they exist. Like I believe it was with Gerrard, when he was praising Beale to the heavens, there's a good chance they were simply just talking up a guy they liked that was looking to move into management.
Were they? How would any of us know this? *interviews after Beale got the job don't count*
And you say this from close up personal experience?He's the sort of man whose talk impresses idiots. Buzzwords, cliches, management speak etc.
Can't believe some still fall for it.
Firstly, the Les Ferdinand episode is really good - give it a watch.
For context on Beale, Ferdinand says that Beale was a right fit for QPR, in that he was doing what the Board had asked of him from the outset, and the players bought into him straight away. “He had them eating out the palm of his hand.” He got players playing that the club originally wanted to sell, and had them top of the table when the ambition of the club was push for play offs, but don’t get relegated, due to the financial restraint the club was under.
After Beale rejected Wolves, Ferdinand said he knew the only club he wouldn’t reject was Rangers. Because whenever Beale referenced any of his previous jobs, it was always Rangers he spoke of with such fondness. Ferdinand just didn’t think Rangers would come in for him so soon.
He didn’t really have an answer as to why Beale failed at Rangers and Sunderland. He just said he was an incredibly confident man.
And I’ll be honest, after listening to the way Ferdinand spoke about Beale - he did his homework, he was great with the players, already had the reputation of being a good coach - I’m still a bit none the wiser as to why it has gone catastrophically wrong for him after coming to Us.