any more to add on this?Craig WatsonCamelon RSC - allocation of tickets an supposed £10 charge for RSC members.
Bisgrove - mygers members pay to be part of ticket scheme - we are looking at it but was interrupted by covid.
any more to add on this?Craig WatsonCamelon RSC - allocation of tickets an supposed £10 charge for RSC members.
Bisgrove - mygers members pay to be part of ticket scheme - we are looking at it but was interrupted by covid.
Some right self-entitled important people in the support.I’m not talking about club success, I’m talking about us as fans actually having a decent matchday. Where you can turn up and get decent food outside the stadium and inside. Safe Standing section allowing us to have fans who are committed to cheering the team on for 90 minutes. Things like that, they aren’t hard out of reach for the club.
They will on safety grounds. I doubt they'd do it just to 'preserve' our safe standing section. Away clubs are entitled to an allocation - just as we would be at Easter Road or Tynecastle. It might be trimmed back a bit at those locations to ease control but if the whole of BF is safe standing where do we put the Away fans? We won't get away with 800 or so for a cup-tie.Have the police not knock larger allocations back before?
I’m saying if it’s not an option us as fans will pay it. It’s metal railings with bits of plastic joined onto it. Even Killie have two Safe Standing bits considering their revenue.As in, cost of implementation and whether people would be willing to pay extra to cover cost?
No idea, but at the time of the deal it was said overall our yearly income from the deal could be between £7m - £9m depending on targets being met.Do we have any idea what the bonus payments will be?
Don’t see why you can’t have both mate, the club’s not exactly cash stretched to provide small things for fans who fork out hundreds a season.Some right self-entitled important people in the support.
For me, it's about the best product on the pitch. I'll happily go without a posh feckin pie for that.
We got away with it a few years back against Aberdeen.They will on safety grounds. I doubt they'd do it just to 'preserve' our safe standing section. Away clubs are entitled to an allocation - just as we would be at Easter Road or Tynecastle. It might be trimmed back a bit at those locations to ease control but if the whole of BF is safe standing where do we put the Away fans? We won't get away with 800 or so for a cup-tie.
Close Brothers was 9%Close Brothers
I agree mate. I’m £500 for BF1, gladly pay £1k for the first season in a standing sectionI’m saying if it’s not an option us as fans will pay it. It’s metal railings with bits of plastic joined onto it. Even Killie have two Safe Standing bits considering their revenue.
It boggles my mind how people can be against an area which in theory is safer with fans unable to tumble forward into the next row in front of them.
Safe standing is a hot topic, but I really hope they focus on the disabled fans first, they have no shelter, its a pain in general.
I am glad it was brought up. I am not a wheelchair user but they deserve better facilities than what is on offer
Basically means why would they reduce capacity and revenue to increase wheelchair spaces?Further back in the thread I read that Douglas Park had said stadium improvements (assume disabled area/safe standing etc) were dependant on capacity increase.
I'm surprised, given that several issues raised at the AGM are obviously related to lack of options and space within the ground, that there was no update on this. Especially since it has been a hot topic in the recent past.
Do we have any update at all on the feasibility study and the various plans ?
The truth is its an investment with no return and they aren't interest in it. If it increased capacity they would but it doeant.The vermin had their safe standing section open for the 2016-17 season - 5 years ago. Ever since then, when the board have been asked about it, we have been fobbed off with "looking into it", "feasability study" etc. Now Roberston has the neck to say that the feasability study has been held up because of Covid. Aye, right. He really must think our heads zip up at the back. Why can't they just tell us the truth, whatever that is ?
The Annual Report shows a 'facility' of £5.5m from Bennett, Johnston and Wolhardt at 6%. There's also a footnote to the Report (last page) about a further £8.5m in loans - from investors - post the reporting period.Any mention of who the creditors are, offering unsecured loans at 6% etc? Barclays or individuals?
It wouldn’t even need to be that mate with our support if everyone chipped in a few quid here and there in support of it we would have it covered easily I would imagine.I agree mate. I’m £500 for BF1, gladly pay £1k for the first season in a standing section
Hopefully broomloan collective gets support
Id gladly see CF made safe standing, and I have knee issues!
Lock CF2 CF3 CF4 seats up and then move folk either side that dont want to stand. Its not “my seat” really, more a rented seat.
OR expand UB area and give them a more prominent position. Livi atmosphere showed up Ibrox for what it is, a morgue of negativity.
1k is a bit steep.I agree mate. I’m £500 for BF1, gladly pay £1k for the first season in a standing section
Hopefully broomloan collective gets support
Thanks mate. Very informative.The Annual Report shows a 'facility' of £5.5m from Bennet, Johnston and Wolhardt at 6%. There's also a footnote to the Report (last page) about a further £8.5m in loans - from investors - post the reporting period.
I’ve been to a few games in Germany and their matchday experiences blow us out the water. Fans here just turn up to the game before kickoff and go straight home. There’s nothing to do before the game or after except go to a pub.Some right self-entitled important people in the support.
For me, it's about the best product on the pitch. I'll happily go without a posh feckin pie for that.
They’ll be thousands of folk in support of it who may not even be in the Broomloan nor go to games anymore but will happily help fund it.1k is a bit steep.
I do wonder if crowdfunding would be a better idea. It would be a bit of a riddy though for a club our size having to get the supporters to pay for it.
My mistake, didn't specify who is now giving us 6%.Close Brothers was 9%
That answers a lot of the noise that our shirt sponsors and digital partners weren’t benefiting us. From quite prominent folk if I remember correctly hmmmmJames Bisgrove - commercial partners.
Moving from recovery to growth - partners supportive of club recovery. Benefits now on stream.
£3m in partnerships last year - should be around £7million by end of this year.
Still have ability to grow.
Fingers crossed that’s because he has something huge lined up for next seasonI have no idea how Bisgrove expects to effectively double our commercial income in one year. Sounds like an extremely difficult target to meet, and I doubt he’ll be able to.
More for illustration, I’d happily pay it but £7/800 probably more realisticIt wouldn’t even need to be that mate with our support if everyone chipped in a few quid here and there in support of it we would have it covered easily I would imagine.
Unfortunately, European games are mostly day trippers who prefer standing- season ticket holders at league games are entirely differentSection I'm in (CF3) stands for all Euro Group games now mate. Have done for the past three seasons. From what I could see there were loads of areas doing the same. Definitely appetite for this.
Earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation & amortization.What’s ebitda?
Being 3-0 down does that… lolwe had 30 odd thousand at Hampden standing, the atmosphere was terrible.
Safe Standing would be great and something I support, but there were far bigger issues today (particularly on the financial side) and that was all very positive.Fobbed off on safe standing, but aye, positive elsewhere.
Was decent until we went 2-0 downwe had 30 odd thousand at Hampden standing, the atmosphere was terrible.
No mention of mygers. My head is going to explodeSafe Standing would be great and something I support, but there were far bigger issues today (particularly on the financial side) and that was all very positive.
I wonder how many would happily move elsewhere in ground Id want a move to the BF if this was standing was installed .The issue will be with the fans that will either need to move seat or stand.
What's the BC thoughts on if we get safe standing (miles away, I know) if it's in the Broomloan then as mentioned a few times in this thread, cup games are the issue.In fairness most of that is already the case (in relation to standing full game etc).
I personally think a new campaign from the wider support is needed, and something that will most likely be set up ASAP. Again for it to work, we need as many people as possible to support it. For it to be effective we need as many as possible involved, from individuals, families to RSCs. The more people getting involved in Broomloan Collective the more chance we have of getting Safe Standing.
Was decent until we went 2-0 down
John Bennett, Alistair Johnston & Julian Wolhardt.My mistake, didn't specify who is now giving us 6%.
No, because the atmosphere was enhanced until we went 2-0 downso the atmosphere argument is dependent on the performance/score, not really whether you are sitting or standing.
I really dont think it does.So much so that I literally can't remember an away game where fans sat.
It proves that the 'vast majority' are happy to stand.
The fans have backed the club phenomenally for the last 10 years including last year’s Covid season. What has the club given back to the fans for this support? Just excuses.
East enclosure was brilliant when always standing , think it's really only Sw4/5 do now on euro games etc give the UB a hand in getting an atmosphere goingBoth enclosures makes the most sense.
I've honestly never seen that Alan Harris weirdo at any European away
Too many think "support" is giving the team a clap when the come out of the tunnelI’ve been to a few games in Germany and their matchday experiences blow us out the water. Fans here just turn up to the game before kickoff and go straight home. There’s nothing to do before the game or after except go to a pub.
Thanks for that. Sounds positive, hopefully we see some larger figures in the next set of accounts.Financial report didn’t include bonus payments, good partnership with Castore and interestingly it was mentioned that “we’ve shown we sell a high number of strips in the market”
@Broomloan he will be best to answer mateHave the police not knock larger allocations back before?
Can you do it online mate ?
Me and the laddie are never early.
Unfortunately, European games are mostly day trippers who prefer standing- season ticket holders at league games are entirely different
They get a return in terms of shares for that, not that I say that to belittle their input, its not a grand philanthropic gesture, its made with business brain fully engaged as well as their hearts.Eh.... they've kept the club going with millions out their own pockets.
Don't ever lose sight of that mate.
He is there.
He travels on his own, dodges about over there on his own and very rarely goes where the support is congregating, but he is there.