The Status Quo with the BBC only harms Rangers, we need all out war or a tactical retreat

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RBRFC

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The BBC is the national broadcaster and the most influential news media in Scotland.

The BBC in Scotland is the de facto media wing of Bheast FC and they are only too happy and willing to use the full weight of their influence to harm Rangers - we saw this last season, the BBC conducted a witch hunt against Morelos, our best player and endlessly highlighted certain Rangers transgressions whilst giving a Nelson's eye to all of Celtic's.

The BBC tactic paid dividends and harmed Rangers, the treatment Morelos was subjected to by officials was a disgrace - and dont forget, when Lennon took over near the end of the season and things were looking a bit shaky, the much maligned Beaton (as 4th official) gave them 7 minutes of injury time in a game with no significant injuries and they got the winner in the 6th, 3 points when they should have got 1. A 2 point present from the BBC.

The BBC are able to cause significant harm to us and we can't do s.hit to them (or aren't doing s.hit). We thought that with the arrival of Gerrard that the London bods may order a negotiated settlement, but that hasnt happened, and if it hasnt happened by now (with the arrival of a global superstar as manager) then it isnt going to happen.

The Bheasts at the BBC dont care, the BBC isnt a commercial operator so a boycott wont have any effect, they get their money from the licence fee, which everyone who watches live tv must pay, on pain of criminal sanction. And they dont care if anything happens to the BBC as a result of the fallout, it's just a job for them, they've got no personal skin in it and in 2 or 3 years they'll have a job somewhere else.

Sticking to martial metaphors, we're like two armies facing off 300 yards apart, but their cannons fire 400 yards, ours only 200. The BBC are delighted to maintain the status quo coz it harms us and benefits Bheast FC. We're not landing anything.

We must either come out all guns blazing, put a total ban in place, call them every name we can think of and expose their staff for what they are (name and shame, get private investigators involved, do what we need to do to win) or else come to some arrangement, even if it is a climbdown, albeit temporary - the hardest league to win will be the first one, and this season will see a media battle like never before. After we win the league once there will be a paradigm shift and our bargaining position will be much stronger. We can then re-open the feud from a position of strength.

Whatever we do, dont continue as is.
 
When you think about football coverage nowadays BBC Scotland are nomarks.How many live games do they broadcast ?

Their coverage is zilch or am I missing something.Sportscene or whatever they call it on Sunday at tea time.Don't make me laugh.
 
Just to add balance:

I will post the list from the last thread.

For reference.

https://www.followfollow.com/forum/...apologise-for-lying-about-morelos-bids.18180/

DON'T PAY THE FEE LOYAL!

Unless we get an apology from Skeletor - he should NEVER be allowed back in to Ibrox.


Extracts from that thread should NEVER BE forgotten.


Don't forget that part of their defense presented to broadcasting house is the complaints (fake and unfounded) they receive from mentally challengeds.... This is how they reflect scrutiny from above.

By showing that we are all mad up here.

Hotbed of Opus Drive = BBC Pacific quay CFC.

From the old FF Board:


The BBC/Rangers “boycott” has been rumbling on for some time now. Occasionally you’ll see a comment on social media or catch something in the BBC's reporting that reminds that you all is not normal. And has not been for some time. Time is certainly ticking on with this, a quick search threw up reports with dates of August 2015 for the opening salvos, and January 2016 as the beginning of the long running boycott. That’s more than two whole years where the national broadcaster has voluntarily boycotted one of the biggest sporting institutions in the UK.

To summarise, the situation arose when Rangers withdrew press privileges for their senior football reporter Chris McLaughlin. The reason given was that the reporter was involved in “misleading and unbalanced reports”. The BBC management took exception to this and then engaged in a boycott of their own, whereby no BBC staff attend Ibrox or Auchenhowie. It’s not clear at what level this decision was made.

In my experience the club's stance or at least intent has the backing of the majority of the fans. The BBC (by which I mean certain members of the BBC Scotland staff) had been pushing the envelope where Rangers were concerned and at the tip of that iceberg were several incidents that actually resulted in withdrawals and formal apologies. For a company with the perceived historical standards and code of ethics of the BBC, not to mention a company distinct in its freedom from financial pressures of the tabloids, it is unbelievable that they’d put out content that gets anywhere near censor. McLaughlin, as the highest profile football reporter and a subtly cunning repeat offender, took the fall for what was perhaps an unavoidable clash.

The BBC's response seems to be one without precedent and I can’t recall any other entity being subject to a self-imposed boycott. Especially a sporting institution which has a valid, if subjective, complaint and one where similar complaints against the BBC had been backed up by regulators. From memory Alex Ferguson had a period of seven years where he never talked to the BBC (for comments contained in a documentary) and certainly the BBC never reciprocated by not attending Old Trafford. The lack of movement or comment on it from both sides is something of a concern and as an onlooker I certainly haven’t seen any mention of it. A recent Club1872 interview with Stewart Robertson in December 2017 stated that “discussions were ongoing towards a solution” and I understand that is also the BBC stance on the situation.

As a Rangers fan I find the fact that this is still ongoing absolutely ridiculous. Not that I object to the stance against the reporter, rather the fact that the status quo doesn’t suit Rangers. Every day that we don’t get fair, normal coverage and exposure is a hindrance to the club.

Simplistically, football clubs are brands in an entertainment industry. Brands tap into pop culture and rely on exposure, repetition and association to grow and to continue to stay relevant. If you take away the oxygen of exposure then you are damaging the brand – even if only relatively by denying it something competing brands are allowed. Likewise, if you subliminally undermine the brand then this filters into the listening population. Taking it further, if you obstruct exposure to the consumer base, especially at formative stages, then you erode the brand's value within that consumer base. It might be tiny percentages or unquantifiable, but it is a factor. If you then compound any effect with time then you have something more tangible - this is unacceptable.

Ironically of course, protecting the brand would be intrinsic in the reasons for McLaughlin’s original ban. I also don’t think you’ll find many Rangers fans who don’t believe that there’s a number of influential journalists and reporters at the BBC who don’t like Rangers. And anyone who listens will know they are none too subtle at hiding it. Call me a cynic but I would guess they would have welcomed the boycott and are pleased with the status quo.

I don’t doubt the Rangers board are busy men. I don’t doubt they have a mile-long list of issues that need their attention. Unfortunately this is another one and this one is dragging on and needs brought to a head sooner than later. I don’t know if it’s been elevated beyond the walls of Pacific Quay but I’d certainly like to see a bigger fuss made about it. There are undoubtedly employees at the BBC who have proven they cannot be impartial or professional with Rangers. It’s a solid claim to make and a just call to ask the BBC to up its game and put its house in order instead of handling Rangers to a different set of rule

I do hope Mr King's discussions with the BBC were not the beginning of an ignominious retreat on the removal of Gollums press privilege's.

He is a Rangers hater working for an employer whom we fund to be biased against Rangers.

A match made in hell.
1. He was warned and agreed to back off. This was at a meeting with 2 senior BBC staff plus him and RFC had 2 directors and JT in attendance. The BBC issued a statement saying they would be more balanced in future

2. He then rushed onto Radio after our 6-2 victory at Easter Road and said there were 3 arrests for sectarian singing. Out of 4K Gers fans he decided to make 3 arrests the lead story. It was MW's frost game and we 'd just pumped Hibs.

3. Following this RFC removed his press priveleges because he had broken an agreement and displayed, yet again, his Anti-Rangers agenda.

4. The BBC decide, for the first time, to refuse to send reporters to our matches until we reinstated him. They asked RFC for video footage of our games for their news and apparently we agreed.

5. It's is the bigots in the BBC who are acting against us and we should NEVER allow that horrible wee guy back into our home.
 
This list is only up until the year 2012. From previous threads:

Extraordiary that we put up with it for so long without speaking out.

Removal of McClaughlins press privelages must remain. The BBC must find a solution how they cover the largest footballing club in the country, it's not incumbent on Rangers to offer a solution.
This situation is patently unacceptable.

The list up until 2012.
. Joke Cartoon of Neil Lennon on hangman appears on Popular Rangers fan site Follow Follow. BBC Report it as a “death threat” on Radio and on the BBC Website. The hosts of Follow Follow (footymad) close down the message board.
• Complete Ignorance of Pearson & Hartson “videogate” scandal.
• Tam Cowan & Stuart Cosgrove continually using the H Word to describe the Rangers support, until it was officially declared sectarian by NbM.
• Upon the signing of Kevin Thomson, the report of the signing on the BBC Website carries a picture, which has been renamed by someone at the BBC to include the word “C*nt”
• Richard Gordon, during his show covering the Transfer Window in 2005, used a racist comment to describe former Rangers player Filip Sebo, joking that he had been “sold to Edinburgh Zoo”
• Weathergirl Kirsty McCabe calls Ibrox “Castle Greyskull.”
• BBC Scotland ignore number of emails concerned at the lack of reporting of sectarian behaviour by the Celtic Support
• BBC Scotland schedule specific programme on BBC Radio Scotland about the Famine Song
• BBC Scotland Sportscene Programme’s ignorance of Rangers tributes to Scottish Soldiers previous to Poppy Day, while ignoring Celtic Supporters minutes applause, and walk out the following week.
• When leading on any “sectarianism” news item, using images of Rangers supporters.
• Photo of Nell McAndrew in Rangers kit entitled “HunC*nt1.”
• Spreading the Lie that Artur Boruc was cautioned for blessing himself, across the BBC Network
• Allowing Cardinal PAP to demonise the Protestant Community by claiming there are those who go out to “Punch a Pape”, and put his own spin on sectarian crime figures, which were wholly inaccurate
• Biased Commentary by David Begg commenting on “Derry’s Walls” being sectarian, but no comment on songs from the Celtic Support.
• The disappointment in Kheredine Idessane’s voice when he announced that Rangers had been found ‘not guilty’ by UEFA.
• The victimisation of Alex Rae following his 50-50 tackle in a Rangers European tie against CSKA Moscow, and submitting footage of the tackle to UEFA.
• The failure to report on sectarianism within the Scottish Labour Party, and various land deals involving 2014, and associates of the Labour Party
• Use of the headline “Rangers in Union Flag row” regarding the Blue Order organised flag display at Ibrox, with a one sided piece on it on Reporting Scotland
• On the last news report before a cup final involving Rangers and Motherwell, leading on a story about Celtic loan player Craig Bellamy possibly staying at the club.
• Using James Grady to comment on an incident against himself by Lorenzo Amuruso in a Scottish Cup Final with no right of reply for Amoruso.
• Roddy Forsyth stating to Gordon Brewer on Newsnight Scotland, that Hearts had a worse problem with sectarianism than Celtic.
• The Acceptance of Sanjeev Kholi as a football pundit, based upon his only claim to fame in being a “football fan” was to accuse the Rangers support of racism against Mark Walters, when Walters had faced the worst display of Racism ever witnessed in Scottish Football by the Celtic Support at Celtic Park.
• Sending 88 Staff from the BBC to Seville at licence payers expense, with only a handful present in Manchester.
• The despatch of a film crew to Benidorm to report on a Celtic Fans convention that ended in fiasco – and reported it as a success. They have never been present at any Rangers fan convention.
• BBC Scotland Commentary of Celtic in Seville from Rob McLean “only the most blinkered Scots won’t be hoping for a Celtic victory”. This, in a stadium littered with Irish Flags and no Saltires.
• Nov 2006 – Just prior to live coverage of an Old Firm game, broadcasting a programme on BBC Radio Scotland about the football song “You’ll Never Walk Alone”. The last 15 minutes was a tribute to how it is sung at Celtic by two “Celtic fans”, who both happened to be BBC Producers.
• Making the Producers of Blue Peter apologise for using the RHOU in a piece, owing to complaints from a Strathclyde University lecturer who is a member of “Friends of Ireland”
• Ignorance of Neil Lennon’s DOB rant at the Rangers support & Dugout
• The refusal to publish or broadcast any facts on the “bannergate” scandal, where a convicted i*a terrorist painted a banner for the “Jungle Bhoys” supporters group partly funded by Celtic Football Club.
• Following Rangers being the first club in Scotland to qualify for the last 16 of the CL, the following morning’s Scottish BBC news neglected to mention the result at all.
• BBC Reporting of Irish Government intervention from information provided by Phil McGillivan on “the famine song”
• Another misrepresentation was saying the "new" Rangers were "playing their first match at Ibrox". The entry on the SFL website confirms that Rangers are the same club.
• Claiming the murder of celtc supporter Reamonn Gormley was a sectarian attack. Claiming the neds that were arrested at celtc's training ground with weapons were committing a sectarian attack against Neil Lennon (more scum supporters). Many claims we committed a criminal act with the CBTs\second letters\whatever they're called this week - Daly, Douglas Fraser's blog, usual suspects on RS.
• The constant use of Ibrox and the Rangers gates as a backdrop when sectarianism is discussed.
• The editing of Ally's press conference, last season, to make it look as if he disregarded sectarianism.
• Continually quoting from only one faith group when reporting on sectarianism and sectarian crime statistics.
• BBC Scotland not mentioning Celtic getting done by UEFA last year even though the national news did, instead spoke about Pandas at Edinburgh Zoo. Compare this to their reaction when we got done.
• Sometimes it's what isn’t said. Joe O;Rourke wasn’t mentioned. IRA songs and singalong are never mentioned. That "bhoy" with the gun at lennoxtown, Ross Hind - his favourite team was never mentioned. Rangers tax "crimes" are big news, the tax crimes of celtic staff aren’t. It's still playing out by the Mark Daly documentary looks to be a strategic move in the chess game against Rangers.
• Mark Daly trying very hard to get Billy (Turncoat) Dodds to say he had a double contract, even though he said he never ever had one. Campaigning to get Naismith banned for elbowing another player, when Hooper did the exact same thing the week before and they ignored it. Accused Aluko of diving to get a penalty, again campaigning to get him banned, even though it was proved there was contact. Several Rangers players have had the same treatment from the BBC over the years.
• Making a point about the solitary arrest at Peterhead yet failing to mention that Lothian and Borders police are "looking into" a police officer who was on duty at the Edinburgh derby there and allegedly was inciting the home fans. Now which story do you think is more newsworthy? An apparent upholder of the law possibly inciting crowd trouble or a single muppet making a stupid remark?
• BBC Scotland badgered UEFA to take action against Alex Rae after they caught him kicking a CSKA Moscow player in the head. Fast forward a couple of seasons and BBC Scotland cameras capture Lennon clearly stamping on an Artmedia player's neck. There was no campaign for any action to be taken.
• Donald Findlay getting pilloried for a song yet hartson and pearson up on stage with full renditions of ira songs at a sellik republican night out.
• Richard Gordon on Radio Scotland before an Aberdeen v Rangers game said "when I was growing up, it was compulsory to hate Rangers in our house".
• James Traynor commenting after the Osasuna away game, "Yes Richard we all watched the live footage of the police hitting fans with batons, but I say they deserved the battering they got".
• Failing to highlight a knife attack in the Tulloch stadium earlier In the year when one rabid slashed another . Unheard of In my time watching Scottish football.
• Also failing to highlight the stabbing in the pie stall queue a few seasons back at Firhill the season PTFC were relegated. I recall the news report that night gave it a brief mention as if nothing had happened.
• The Hearts ballboy, who got a fractured skull when a scumbag threw a coin at him. The media was all over the attack on poor wee neil the next day, the Rhecord buried it on page 20-something. BBC never reported it.
• Always showing footage of Ibrox with weeds, decaying fence etc. in the foreground, A little pathetic I know from them but they always show footage of Ibrox in the most negative light they can. Cowan doing Huns jokes. Cosgrove admitting he sung sectarian songs. Spence banging on a table when a team scores against us.
BBC Scotland is far from Impartial when it comes to Rangers. It’s shocking that a public funded body act in such a way but that's what you get when you employ bigots. Its sad that a once fine institution can no longer be trusted.
 
RBRFC said:
the much maligned Beaton (as 4th official) gave them 7 minutes of injury time in a game with no significant injuries and they got the winner in the 6th, 3 points when they should have got 1. A 2 point present from the BBC..
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The ref decides the amount of injury time not the 4th official.
 
The club needs to start calling them out and highlighting the double standards , expose them at press conferences whenever they go on one of their witch hunts and highlight regularly what they are doing and name and Shane them , it will soon stop

A couple of one liners from our manager would get maximum exposure
 
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RBRFC said:
The BBC is the national broadcaster and the most influential news media in Scotland.

The BBC in Scotland is the de facto media wing of Bheast FC and they are only too happy and willing to use the full weight of their influence to harm Rangers - we saw this last season, the BBC conducted a witch hunt against Morelos, our best player and endlessly highlighted certain Rangers transgressions whilst giving a Nelson's eye to all of Celtic's.

The BBC tactic paid dividends and harmed Rangers, the treatment Morelos was subjected to by officials was a disgrace - and dont forget, when Lennon took over near the end of the season and things were looking a bit shaky, the much maligned Beaton (as 4th official) gave them 7 minutes of injury time in a game with no significant injuries and they got the winner in the 6th, 3 points when they should have got 1. A 2 point present from the BBC.

The BBC are able to cause significant harm to us and we can't do s.hit to them (or aren't doing s.hit). We thought that with the arrival of Gerrard that the London bods may order a negotiated settlement, but that hasnt happened, and if it hasnt happened by now (with the arrival of a global superstar as manager) then it isnt going to happen.

The Bheasts at the BBC dont care, the BBC isnt a commercial operator so a boycott wont have any effect, they get their money from the licence fee, which everyone who watches live tv must pay, on pain of criminal sanction. And they dont care if anything happens to the BBC as a result of the fallout, it's just a job for them, they've got no personal skin in it and in 2 or 3 years they'll have a job somewhere else.

Sticking to martial metaphors, we're like two armies facing off 300 yards apart, but their cannons fire 400 yards, ours only 200. The BBC are delighted to maintain the status quo coz it harms us and benefits Bheast FC. We're not landing anything.

We must either come out all guns blazing, put a total ban in place, call them every name we can think of and expose their staff for what they are (name and shame, get private investigators involved, do what we need to do to win) or else come to some arrangement, even if it is a climbdown, albeit temporary - the hardest league to win will be the first one, and this season will see a media battle like never before. After we win the league once there will be a paradigm shift and our bargaining position will be much stronger. We can then re-open the feud from a position of strength.

Whatever we do, dont continue as is.
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I'll go for your last paragraph!
All guns blazing and be very clear about WHY we've put the total ban in place!
We'll obviously be accused of being petty and childish by some sections of the media but fcuk 'em...as you say, this farce has gone on long enough.
As the BBC is a National broadcaster, this actually is a National disgrace!
 
Brian Laudrup said:
They need us more than we need them
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Don't think so. We have given them nothing for more than 5 years and it doesn't seem to bother them one jot, in fact I firmly believe they intentionally do things just to wind us up.

From my own point of view I fully understand and respect our clubs decision but I do miss the fact that I cannot get decent and fair comment on Rangers by our national broadcaster.
 
Give every other TV company an exclusive on a weekly turn about. Then invite the BBC for their exclusive which they will not turn up for and give their exclusive to the company that best presented us in the past month.
 
George Goudie said:
Just to add balance:

I will post the list from the last thread.

For reference.

https://www.followfollow.com/forum/...apologise-for-lying-about-morelos-bids.18180/

DON'T PAY THE FEE LOYAL!

Unless we get an apology from Skeletor - he should NEVER be allowed back in to Ibrox.


Extracts from that thread should NEVER BE forgotten.


Don't forget that part of their defense presented to broadcasting house is the complaints (fake and unfounded) they receive from mentally challengeds.... This is how they reflect scrutiny from above.

By showing that we are all mad up here.

Hotbed of Opus Drive = BBC Pacific quay CFC.

From the old FF Board:


The BBC/Rangers “boycott” has been rumbling on for some time now. Occasionally you’ll see a comment on social media or catch something in the BBC's reporting that reminds that you all is not normal. And has not been for some time. Time is certainly ticking on with this, a quick search threw up reports with dates of August 2015 for the opening salvos, and January 2016 as the beginning of the long running boycott. That’s more than two whole years where the national broadcaster has voluntarily boycotted one of the biggest sporting institutions in the UK.

To summarise, the situation arose when Rangers withdrew press privileges for their senior football reporter Chris McLaughlin. The reason given was that the reporter was involved in “misleading and unbalanced reports”. The BBC management took exception to this and then engaged in a boycott of their own, whereby no BBC staff attend Ibrox or Auchenhowie. It’s not clear at what level this decision was made.

In my experience the club's stance or at least intent has the backing of the majority of the fans. The BBC (by which I mean certain members of the BBC Scotland staff) had been pushing the envelope where Rangers were concerned and at the tip of that iceberg were several incidents that actually resulted in withdrawals and formal apologies. For a company with the perceived historical standards and code of ethics of the BBC, not to mention a company distinct in its freedom from financial pressures of the tabloids, it is unbelievable that they’d put out content that gets anywhere near censor. McLaughlin, as the highest profile football reporter and a subtly cunning repeat offender, took the fall for what was perhaps an unavoidable clash.

The BBC's response seems to be one without precedent and I can’t recall any other entity being subject to a self-imposed boycott. Especially a sporting institution which has a valid, if subjective, complaint and one where similar complaints against the BBC had been backed up by regulators. From memory Alex Ferguson had a period of seven years where he never talked to the BBC (for comments contained in a documentary) and certainly the BBC never reciprocated by not attending Old Trafford. The lack of movement or comment on it from both sides is something of a concern and as an onlooker I certainly haven’t seen any mention of it. A recent Club1872 interview with Stewart Robertson in December 2017 stated that “discussions were ongoing towards a solution” and I understand that is also the BBC stance on the situation.

As a Rangers fan I find the fact that this is still ongoing absolutely ridiculous. Not that I object to the stance against the reporter, rather the fact that the status quo doesn’t suit Rangers. Every day that we don’t get fair, normal coverage and exposure is a hindrance to the club.

Simplistically, football clubs are brands in an entertainment industry. Brands tap into pop culture and rely on exposure, repetition and association to grow and to continue to stay relevant. If you take away the oxygen of exposure then you are damaging the brand – even if only relatively by denying it something competing brands are allowed. Likewise, if you subliminally undermine the brand then this filters into the listening population. Taking it further, if you obstruct exposure to the consumer base, especially at formative stages, then you erode the brand's value within that consumer base. It might be tiny percentages or unquantifiable, but it is a factor. If you then compound any effect with time then you have something more tangible - this is unacceptable.

Ironically of course, protecting the brand would be intrinsic in the reasons for McLaughlin’s original ban. I also don’t think you’ll find many Rangers fans who don’t believe that there’s a number of influential journalists and reporters at the BBC who don’t like Rangers. And anyone who listens will know they are none too subtle at hiding it. Call me a cynic but I would guess they would have welcomed the boycott and are pleased with the status quo.

I don’t doubt the Rangers board are busy men. I don’t doubt they have a mile-long list of issues that need their attention. Unfortunately this is another one and this one is dragging on and needs brought to a head sooner than later. I don’t know if it’s been elevated beyond the walls of Pacific Quay but I’d certainly like to see a bigger fuss made about it. There are undoubtedly employees at the BBC who have proven they cannot be impartial or professional with Rangers. It’s a solid claim to make and a just call to ask the BBC to up its game and put its house in order instead of handling Rangers to a different set of rule

I do hope Mr King's discussions with the BBC were not the beginning of an ignominious retreat on the removal of Gollums press privilege's.

He is a Rangers hater working for an employer whom we fund to be biased against Rangers.

A match made in hell.
1. He was warned and agreed to back off. This was at a meeting with 2 senior BBC staff plus him and RFC had 2 directors and JT in attendance. The BBC issued a statement saying they would be more balanced in future

2. He then rushed onto Radio after our 6-2 victory at Easter Road and said there were 3 arrests for sectarian singing. Out of 4K Gers fans he decided to make 3 arrests the lead story. It was MW's frost game and we 'd just pumped Hibs.

3. Following this RFC removed his press priveleges because he had broken an agreement and displayed, yet again, his Anti-Rangers agenda.

4. The BBC decide, for the first time, to refuse to send reporters to our matches until we reinstated him. They asked RFC for video footage of our games for their news and apparently we agreed.

5. It's is the bigots in the BBC who are acting against us and we should NEVER allow that horrible wee guy back into our home.
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I agree with all of that but that's not the point - our current tactics result in us getting the s.hit kicked out of us, we need a change. A tactical retreat is not a surrender, we keep our powder dry and come back another day, or else we go all out now. If this season is close and I suspect it will be (coz the other 10 are utter shite) the BBC will be in full attack mode to stop us winning. Win the league and everything will change, the ends will justify the means.

Imagine going into a game knowing we can win the league with a win at Ibrox and then telling the BBC just before kick-off that a total ban is now in place?

We need to box clever for the time being.

Also, not paying the licence fee can lead to a criminal charge, for job and travel Im not wiling to take the risk, so I pay through gritted teeth, I suspect most are like that.
 
I know what the OP is saying. However....

Supporters like my 85 year old Dad who passed away quietly last year are being starved of listening to the game because the elderly often won't have satellite, computer or an internet enabled mobile.

Said this many times before, surely we have reached a tipping point? After all, it's been nearly 6 years of the boycott unjustly implemented by Pacific Quay CFC.

There must be thousands upon thousands of BBC 'TV and radio' licence holders in this country alone that cannot listen to the football commentary that they pay for (I know the elderly don't pay).

It's damaging our brand, it's eroding our profile and it's disadvantaging a huge demographic.

Others have taken the steps that we have taken in removing press privelages from a reporter. However the treatment Rangers are receiving is singularly harsh and sets a precedent that has not been consistently adhered to.

As suggested above, i Iknow that, in an effort to disguise the BBC's bias and their bigoted attempts to damage our good name, the celtc supporters complain en masse about this organisation as well, they do this merely to show their Broadcasting House employers that.... 'ones as bad as the other up here in Jockland'. They can hide behind this facade that our complaints are unfounded and we are all unhinged complainers.

But we all know that the proportion of 'celtc minded' individuals in that cess pit on the Clyde is suspiciously high and has been for decades.

Just remember Jimmy Ping and the BBC being forced to apologise for unfair reporting. .... If we hadn't stopped him out would be mainstream that Rangers are a new club.

fück that... and fück him ..... and fück the BBC.
 
George Goudie said:
I was reminded of this by @Cutty/Young the other day ..... Check out this thread how a poster took them on in 2015:

http://forum.rangers-mad.co.uk/show...-Chris-McLaughlin-Caught-Bang-To-Rights-Lying
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While i agree something needs to be done i dont think not paying your licence will work
Rangers means the world to us but not everyone.
I can imagine the scene in households all over the uk -
Rangers fan - right we are not paying our licence, cancel the dd from here on
Family - why?
Rangers fan - cause they hate rangers
Family - are you actually fucking daft, its grtting paid. We are not going into arrears cause someone said something bad about your football team

The club need to deal wtih this really
 
Also, remember Craig Houston being ambushed by Angela Haggarty when on discussing the BTC.

Remember Jimmy Ping s above reporting we were a "new club" which led to the BBC Trust upholding complaints against them for inaccurate reporting.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-22951447

Ckub1872 really should be demanding to know the names of the editorial staff involved in the creation of these programmes.

http://club1872.co.uk/news/ipso-and-bbc-complaints/


Also, this is the kind of stuck response they give you when you complain. The names are always awkwardly giving away their heritage. It's almost as if it's intentionally aggravating the complainer.



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Yet another response:



Thank you for getting in touch about Kheredine Idessane's reporting on Alfredo Morelos. I am sorry it has taken this length of time to reply.

Kheredine acknowledged his mistake and shared this on Twitter:

“An apology to @RangersFC : despite what I was told from China, there was indeed a multi-million euro bid, indeed bids, from Beijing Renhe for striker Alfredo Morelos, with varying options for how it would have been structured. This retracts, and corrects my previous tweet.”

That said, we’ve shared your feedback with the Sport team.

We have noted your comments about our coverage of Rangers FC. We stand by the integrity and the quality of our journalism.

We are disappointed that Rangers continue to ban one of our reporters from Ibrox. We continue to discuss a resolution of this matter with the club but until it is resolved we will not be sending journalists to Ibrox or attending Rangers’ press conferences. We will continue to report on Rangers both on and off the pitch and will feature match action where appropriate.

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A reminder BBC.

1. He’s not banned

2. You still sent reporters to Dundee in identical circumstances.

Club 1872 should consider asking the BBC CFC how many apologies and retractions BBC Scotland issue in general. Say something like how many in the past year?

A large number would contradict their mantra about quality. A low number would mean that Rangers related ones are a much higher proportion than would be expected and so would contradict the integrity statement. Effectively highlight their bias.
 
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Horace goes Skiing said:
Absolutely mental to suggest the BBC won Celtic 2 points.
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The thing here is, who actually knows?
We’ve all seen Browns challenges and those of other players as well but they’ve never been highlighted as ours have.
Who knows the effect a similar policy to ours might have made.
I don’t really know the answer here.
I’d love it to be the all out war but I don’t know how we can beat them.
To me, it’s just an extension of our side of the fence being the whipping boys in every social and political way.
 
Lets be honest here, we'd have a better chance trying to reason with the GB than the rancid bastards that infest Pacific Quay.
 
It's now 4 years since Chris McLaughlin first had his privileges removed by the club.

In practical terms, nothing has been achieved. Indeed, BBC Scotland seems to have relished the opportunity to become even more hostile to Rangers.

The board fobbed everything off to Club 1872 instead of leading from the front. BBC Scotland clearly thinks it can just tie up Club 1872 in its ridiculous complaints system and is not far wrong.

The board has to recruit the help of politicians and others. It should also be publicising examples of BBC bias on the official website and social media. Fans not aware of messageboard discussions will be completely unaware of the situation.

The entire issue has been handled very poorly by the club.
 
RBRFC said:
The BBC is the national broadcaster and the most influential news media in Scotland.

The BBC in Scotland is the de facto media wing of Bheast FC and they are only too happy and willing to use the full weight of their influence to harm Rangers - we saw this last season, the BBC conducted a witch hunt against Morelos, our best player and endlessly highlighted certain Rangers transgressions whilst giving a Nelson's eye to all of Celtic's.

The BBC tactic paid dividends and harmed Rangers, the treatment Morelos was subjected to by officials was a disgrace - and dont forget, when Lennon took over near the end of the season and things were looking a bit shaky, the much maligned Beaton (as 4th official) gave them 7 minutes of injury time in a game with no significant injuries and they got the winner in the 6th, 3 points when they should have got 1. A 2 point present from the BBC.

The BBC are able to cause significant harm to us and we can't do s.hit to them (or aren't doing s.hit). We thought that with the arrival of Gerrard that the London bods may order a negotiated settlement, but that hasnt happened, and if it hasnt happened by now (with the arrival of a global superstar as manager) then it isnt going to happen.

The Bheasts at the BBC dont care, the BBC isnt a commercial operator so a boycott wont have any effect, they get their money from the licence fee, which everyone who watches live tv must pay, on pain of criminal sanction. And they dont care if anything happens to the BBC as a result of the fallout, it's just a job for them, they've got no personal skin in it and in 2 or 3 years they'll have a job somewhere else.

Sticking to martial metaphors, we're like two armies facing off 300 yards apart, but their cannons fire 400 yards, ours only 200. The BBC are delighted to maintain the status quo coz it harms us and benefits Bheast FC. We're not landing anything.

We must either come out all guns blazing, put a total ban in place, call them every name we can think of and expose their staff for what they are (name and shame, get private investigators involved, do what we need to do to win) or else come to some arrangement, even if it is a climbdown, albeit temporary - the hardest league to win will be the first one, and this season will see a media battle like never before. After we win the league once there will be a paradigm shift and our bargaining position will be much stronger. We can then re-open the feud from a position of strength.

Whatever we do, dont continue as is.
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I'm maybe in the minority, but I honestly couldn't care less about our relationship with the BBC.

I don't miss their coverage one little bit.
 
George Goudie said:
This list is only up until the year 2012. From previous threads:

Extraordiary that we put up with it for so long without speaking out.

Removal of McClaughlins press privelages must remain. The BBC must find a solution how they cover the largest footballing club in the country, it's not incumbent on Rangers to offer a solution.
This situation is patently unacceptable.

The list up until 2012.
. Joke Cartoon of Neil Lennon on hangman appears on Popular Rangers fan site Follow Follow. BBC Report it as a “death threat” on Radio and on the BBC Website. The hosts of Follow Follow (footymad) close down the message board.
• Complete Ignorance of Pearson & Hartson “videogate” scandal.
• Tam Cowan & Stuart Cosgrove continually using the H Word to describe the Rangers support, until it was officially declared sectarian by NbM.
• Upon the signing of Kevin Thomson, the report of the signing on the BBC Website carries a picture, which has been renamed by someone at the BBC to include the word “C*nt”
• Richard Gordon, during his show covering the Transfer Window in 2005, used a racist comment to describe former Rangers player Filip Sebo, joking that he had been “sold to Edinburgh Zoo”
• Weathergirl Kirsty McCabe calls Ibrox “Castle Greyskull.”
• BBC Scotland ignore number of emails concerned at the lack of reporting of sectarian behaviour by the Celtic Support
• BBC Scotland schedule specific programme on BBC Radio Scotland about the Famine Song
• BBC Scotland Sportscene Programme’s ignorance of Rangers tributes to Scottish Soldiers previous to Poppy Day, while ignoring Celtic Supporters minutes applause, and walk out the following week.
• When leading on any “sectarianism” news item, using images of Rangers supporters.
• Photo of Nell McAndrew in Rangers kit entitled “HunC*nt1.”
• Spreading the Lie that Artur Boruc was cautioned for blessing himself, across the BBC Network
• Allowing Cardinal PAP to demonise the Protestant Community by claiming there are those who go out to “Punch a Pape”, and put his own spin on sectarian crime figures, which were wholly inaccurate
• Biased Commentary by David Begg commenting on “Derry’s Walls” being sectarian, but no comment on songs from the Celtic Support.
• The disappointment in Kheredine Idessane’s voice when he announced that Rangers had been found ‘not guilty’ by UEFA.
• The victimisation of Alex Rae following his 50-50 tackle in a Rangers European tie against CSKA Moscow, and submitting footage of the tackle to UEFA.
• The failure to report on sectarianism within the Scottish Labour Party, and various land deals involving 2014, and associates of the Labour Party
• Use of the headline “Rangers in Union Flag row” regarding the Blue Order organised flag display at Ibrox, with a one sided piece on it on Reporting Scotland
• On the last news report before a cup final involving Rangers and Motherwell, leading on a story about Celtic loan player Craig Bellamy possibly staying at the club.
• Using James Grady to comment on an incident against himself by Lorenzo Amuruso in a Scottish Cup Final with no right of reply for Amoruso.
• Roddy Forsyth stating to Gordon Brewer on Newsnight Scotland, that Hearts had a worse problem with sectarianism than Celtic.
• The Acceptance of Sanjeev Kholi as a football pundit, based upon his only claim to fame in being a “football fan” was to accuse the Rangers support of racism against Mark Walters, when Walters had faced the worst display of Racism ever witnessed in Scottish Football by the Celtic Support at Celtic Park.
• Sending 88 Staff from the BBC to Seville at licence payers expense, with only a handful present in Manchester.
• The despatch of a film crew to Benidorm to report on a Celtic Fans convention that ended in fiasco – and reported it as a success. They have never been present at any Rangers fan convention.
• BBC Scotland Commentary of Celtic in Seville from Rob McLean “only the most blinkered Scots won’t be hoping for a Celtic victory”. This, in a stadium littered with Irish Flags and no Saltires.
• Nov 2006 – Just prior to live coverage of an Old Firm game, broadcasting a programme on BBC Radio Scotland about the football song “You’ll Never Walk Alone”. The last 15 minutes was a tribute to how it is sung at Celtic by two “Celtic fans”, who both happened to be BBC Producers.
• Making the Producers of Blue Peter apologise for using the RHOU in a piece, owing to complaints from a Strathclyde University lecturer who is a member of “Friends of Ireland”
• Ignorance of Neil Lennon’s DOB rant at the Rangers support & Dugout
• The refusal to publish or broadcast any facts on the “bannergate” scandal, where a convicted i*a terrorist painted a banner for the “Jungle Bhoys” supporters group partly funded by Celtic Football Club.
• Following Rangers being the first club in Scotland to qualify for the last 16 of the CL, the following morning’s Scottish BBC news neglected to mention the result at all.
• BBC Reporting of Irish Government intervention from information provided by Phil McGillivan on “the famine song”
• Another misrepresentation was saying the "new" Rangers were "playing their first match at Ibrox". The entry on the SFL website confirms that Rangers are the same club.
• Claiming the murder of celtc supporter Reamonn Gormley was a sectarian attack. Claiming the neds that were arrested at celtc's training ground with weapons were committing a sectarian attack against Neil Lennon (more scum supporters). Many claims we committed a criminal act with the CBTs\second letters\whatever they're called this week - Daly, Douglas Fraser's blog, usual suspects on RS.
• The constant use of Ibrox and the Rangers gates as a backdrop when sectarianism is discussed.
• The editing of Ally's press conference, last season, to make it look as if he disregarded sectarianism.
• Continually quoting from only one faith group when reporting on sectarianism and sectarian crime statistics.
• BBC Scotland not mentioning Celtic getting done by UEFA last year even though the national news did, instead spoke about Pandas at Edinburgh Zoo. Compare this to their reaction when we got done.
• Sometimes it's what isn’t said. Joe O;Rourke wasn’t mentioned. IRA songs and singalong are never mentioned. That "bhoy" with the gun at lennoxtown, Ross Hind - his favourite team was never mentioned. Rangers tax "crimes" are big news, the tax crimes of celtic staff aren’t. It's still playing out by the Mark Daly documentary looks to be a strategic move in the chess game against Rangers.
• Mark Daly trying very hard to get Billy (Turncoat) Dodds to say he had a double contract, even though he said he never ever had one. Campaigning to get Naismith banned for elbowing another player, when Hooper did the exact same thing the week before and they ignored it. Accused Aluko of diving to get a penalty, again campaigning to get him banned, even though it was proved there was contact. Several Rangers players have had the same treatment from the BBC over the years.
• Making a point about the solitary arrest at Peterhead yet failing to mention that Lothian and Borders police are "looking into" a police officer who was on duty at the Edinburgh derby there and allegedly was inciting the home fans. Now which story do you think is more newsworthy? An apparent upholder of the law possibly inciting crowd trouble or a single muppet making a stupid remark?
• BBC Scotland badgered UEFA to take action against Alex Rae after they caught him kicking a CSKA Moscow player in the head. Fast forward a couple of seasons and BBC Scotland cameras capture Lennon clearly stamping on an Artmedia player's neck. There was no campaign for any action to be taken.
• Donald Findlay getting pilloried for a song yet hartson and pearson up on stage with full renditions of ira songs at a sellik republican night out.
• Richard Gordon on Radio Scotland before an Aberdeen v Rangers game said "when I was growing up, it was compulsory to hate Rangers in our house".
• James Traynor commenting after the Osasuna away game, "Yes Richard we all watched the live footage of the police hitting fans with batons, but I say they deserved the battering they got".
• Failing to highlight a knife attack in the Tulloch stadium earlier In the year when one rabid slashed another . Unheard of In my time watching Scottish football.
• Also failing to highlight the stabbing in the pie stall queue a few seasons back at Firhill the season PTFC were relegated. I recall the news report that night gave it a brief mention as if nothing had happened.
• The Hearts ballboy, who got a fractured skull when a scumbag threw a coin at him. The media was all over the attack on poor wee neil the next day, the Rhecord buried it on page 20-something. BBC never reported it.
• Always showing footage of Ibrox with weeds, decaying fence etc. in the foreground, A little pathetic I know from them but they always show footage of Ibrox in the most negative light they can. Cowan doing Huns jokes. Cosgrove admitting he sung sectarian songs. Spence banging on a table when a team scores against us.
BBC Scotland is far from Impartial when it comes to Rangers. It’s shocking that a public funded body act in such a way but that's what you get when you employ bigots. Its sad that a once fine institution can no longer be trusted.
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You should get a book published with all this well-gathered information.
 
Ban them totally from Ibrox , Know its against SPL rules but ban them using any of our coverage ,if the SFA pull us up take them on as well . Take it to law ,there is tonnes of evidence to show their attitude against us any half decent QC would win the case
 
https://www.gersnet.co.uk/index.php...-boycott-of-rangers-over-2-years-and-counting

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/bbc-refuse-send-staff-Ibrox-6179565

Now get this. This is a cracker Bears.

https://bbcwatch.org/2017/11/16/how-the-bbc-outsources-its-complaints-system/

Towards the end of last month, one of our readers referred in the comments section to an article by Peter Hitchensconcerning the BBC’s complaints system:

“I have many times battled my way through the futile outer defences of the Corporation’s complaints system. This was long ago outsourced to an outside contractor, Capita.

I get the strong impression that Capita is there solely to soak up the anger of viewers and listeners. I can get no straight answer from the BBC about whether complaints made to it are even passed directly to the programme-makers involved.”

The meaning of the BBC’s Audience Services contract with Capita plc is of course that at the first two stages of the complaints system – 1a and 1b – members of the public are in fact not dealing with the BBC directly but with a commercial entity.

Another with SEPARATE ENTITY shite.
MearnsUnionist said:
I'm maybe in the minority, but I honestly couldn't care less about our relationship with the BBC.

I don't miss their coverage one little bit.
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You don't mate.

What about your old immobile or infirm Rangers Supporter, in his house, with his radio on tomorrow?

Do you not feel sorry for them?

Some of them have been paying their TV and Radio licences for over 70 years yet they cannot listen to a commentary on their favourite Football Team's first competitive game of the season.

They simply won't have a clue why their national broadcaster does not broadcast Rangers games.

As they twiddle their radio dials scratching their heads, they will no doubt curse the fact their pension does not allow them the luxury of cable TV.

Throughout their lives they had always depended on the BBC to keep them updated on the most successful Club in the country.

They don't know that BBC Pacific Quay has become a putrid and infested swamp where Rangers hating is de rigeur.

Time to blow this wide open Club1872. Now.
 
I don’t use the BBC for any type of football coverage, I mean who wants to roll over and have their tummy tickled so we can get an interview shown on Sportscene? %^*& that, and %^*& them.
 
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