I’d like to read one of the emails that they mention.
There are videos of them all over YouTube singing super Rangers during that gameAre you genuinely suggesting that everyone in bf1 sung banned songs?
There is the assumption that the club hasn’t spoken to any of the fan base. That’s not accurate. But equally it has to continue and grow. I’ve spoken to bloggers, podders, influencers, RSCs, fan groups and more but it’s an ongoing process. We have a massive fan base and I believe the vast majority of us now know what has to be done.
Out of interest has it ever moved on from conversations or are we still at the "looking into it"phaseAs part of the conversation on safe standing the club discussed the singing and how it could come to bite us if it went on. That’s what has happened - unfortunately despite the clubs warnings it’s still come as a shock.
Getting kicked out of European football either this season or the next would do almost immeasurable damage to our club and reputation mate.so lets just take it all bit by bit , till we lose our identity, our beliefs and our integrity. Its already started ie orange strips, whats next? Rule britannia?
Lets just give in and roll over!
so lets just take it all bit by bit , till we lose our identity, our beliefs and our integrity. Its already started ie orange strips, whats next? Rule britannia?
Lets just give in and roll over!
We were cited for the offensive songs, they claim to be the ‘Voice of Ibrox’ - are they going to take responsibility for this or not?
Videos of the whole of bf1? Because i would love to see the video of my 13 year old son singing itThere are videos of them all over YouTube singing super Rangers during that game
What do you see our identity and beliefs as?so lets just take it all bit by bit , till we lose our identity, our beliefs and our integrity. Its already started ie orange strips, whats next? Rule britannia?
Lets just give in and roll over!
Greg
In these meeting were specific songs named as not to be sung ?
I for one do not sing the sectarian words but do sing the songs . On the whole it is very confusing
There is the assumption that the club hasn’t spoken to any of the fan base. That’s not accurate. But equally it has to continue and grow. I’ve spoken to bloggers, podders, influencers, RSCs, fan groups and more but it’s an ongoing process. We have a massive fan base and I believe the vast majority of us now know what has to be done.
This isn’t difficult. We were told by UEFA in 2006 that the Billy Boys and 19th Century Terrorist were not acceptable. We had a 3 year suspended stand closure in 2011. The only surprise is people are surprised by this.
Yeah that’s a unbelievably daft statement with zero accountability and zero grasp of reality.
Yeah talk about trying to have your cake and eat it too. I’m really not sure how people can back that, the club had to act, it isn’t their fault yet all that statement does is paint the board as the bad guys. Wired to the moon.
We're all in the Rangers family when they're wanting money from us.Any sign of trouble we're on our own.Events after Kilmarnock prove that.Can’t argue with them tbh. Rather than liase with them to find a solution the club have took the easy option
Not for me. We have many great songs and that’swhat we should be singing. I am not a fan of ultra style chants and as for fuucking drums at the football. Just a racket.Have to say I agree with that, they could have gone further and suggested they use the UB’s to positively determine the song choice at Ibrox and away.
I’ve said this for years this operational board are abaw hair away from Bain et al in how they engage of enemies and positively engaging the UB’s.
What about letters Greg? Have they been sent to all season ticket holders?
BF1 is the only section not to be relocated though.its not just BF1 but it may have escaped the UB's notice but sections 6&7 in the club deck are also shut
I have defended the UB's and do believe they are being unfairly targeted.
However they have shot themselves in the foot though saying that they are the voice of Ibrox so surely they then have to accept they have sung songs which they were told not to sign.
This whole “racist” shit needs to be properly challenged. Do they just throw any muck and it sticks?
Their FC Midtjylland efforts at Ibrox
Will cause Ibrox Stadium to be shut
And still they will only deny everything and wail and blame others
Having cost Rangers FC, our only focus after all, money and European Football.
But hey, this is UB07FC after all.
Fucking weans the lot of them. Grow up
The club can close the section and hand out bans but they can't disband the group and either can poster's like you.You've all heard it from the horse's mouth. They were warned and they did not change. Personally, I think they should be disbanded. I'm sick to the back teeth of their "we're better fans than you" shite. %^*& off the lot of ye
Some posters on here are so out of touch with reality. Thankfully the majority are armchair fans
It seems to me that King and Robertson shy away from any "proper" fan engagement.Greg, I get the impression that you work tirelessly for the good of the club and for that you have my sincere thanks.
I do question the clubs strategy of back-door engagement though. It's something we've seen a few times. It's akin to all the times The Board uses c1872 rather than being forthright and direct.
I'm not blaming you. I do wonder who is advising the club to conduct "guerrilla" engagement though.
It seems to be their go-to position and it's dangerously close to being counter-productive.
Your efforts would be much more worthwhile if the club were also capable of something much more straightforward. Something that DK and SR would hang their own hats on.
Do you remember Walter Smith saying that he'd sung the songs and that times changed?
I always thought that was impressive leadership.
Do you think this is actually that complicated?
Everyone surely knows what we can and cannot sing, we had years of the OBFA, people jailed, etc. The reality of it is that we have had a heavier punishment than previous, with worse to come if it carries on, and it needs to stop.
The club have been at this with the fans for many years, we are all grown ups, we need to take responsibility for our own behaviour, and even moreso when it is damaging the club.
Rangers are bigger than any fan, group, song.
I wont back the board fully on this until they come out swinging and highlighting the witch hunt against the club and calling out the likes of FARE for their impartiality.
The club can close the section and hand out bans but they can't disband the group and either can poster's like you.
Bollocks. Every single fan is now aware of their responsibilities. Do you really need an hugely embarrassing statement from the board to tell you not to sing songs about 19th Century Terrorists and the Pope?Leadership and proper communication from the board to the Rangers fans wouldn't go amiss!!!
We can, however, highlight that there are many who work for FARE who make it their business to damage us in anyway they can.I don’t think it is confusing tbh. It’s possibly just unpalatable to those who have sang them for years.
Anything that is perceived to be sectarian. Any reference to the F word or catholics/pope in any form that could be considered discriminatory.
We can’t negotiate our way away from this crossroads. The songs stop or the club could be immensely damaged.
The club emailed all supporters and released countless statements about the everyone anyone campaign. There will be direct action ahead of Thursday i’m Sure too
UEFA have a fixed punishment for this, once the offence has been established, it is in the regulations.
"If one or more of a member association or club’s supporters engage in the behaviour described in paragraph 1, the member association or club responsible is punished with a minimum of a partial stadium closure"
That being the case, and a specific section being identified as where the singing started, it only makes sense for it to be that section is closed.
It is also worth saying that this is also in the same regulation.
" a second offence is punished with one match played behind closed doors and a fine of € 50,000"
So if it happens again that is the punishment, and people already know it.