Victims lawyer urges Celtic to set millions aside

[Bobafett Bear]

Aye it appears it was the wrong Jim McCafferty the other week,VB.Im sure I seen May mentioned but don't quote me on that.

Yup was defo not him 100% last week or so up at court,I’m not sure when he’s up next for trial.

There was meant to be a piece on the CBC scandal in a paper last weekend,it was pulled at the last minute after the shootings in NZ on Friday,I’m waiting to hear if it will go ahead this weekend now.

 

[bornabluenose]

One of the things I dont understand is why the general celtic supporters arent up in arms about this. If similar happened at Ibrox, I'd expect us to be putting serious pressure on the board to do the morally right thing. Take responsibility for past failings and puts steps in place to make it right.

What have the fans of city being saying about it? Do they recognise its the right thing to do?

Different breed mate , and I say that in all candour.

 

[omegaman]

Well, they've just raked in £9m from Melty Face's compo to add to the 50 squizzilion they're about to get for Tierney, Forrest or whoever the new Yahoo charity drive is in the mhedia so, you know . . . it's a start!

 

[minder]

Indeed , they will be insured for the money anyway.

No insurance company insures you for paedophiles and sex abuse.Do you honestly believe that Prudential have a paedo policy for football clubs?

 

[Blue Tack]

The silence is deafening ,the longer they stay silent the more defining the guilt is .

 

[BrooklynBlue]

No insurance company insures you for paedophiles and sex abuse.Do you honestly believe that Prudential have a paedo policy for football clubs?

They have additional clauses to cover this, at least in sporting insurance contracts in the US.

 

[Ciro]

I genuinely don't know one single mentally challenged who gives a phuck about the victims of the biggest paedophile ring ever to operate at a football club anywhere in the world.
I genuinely haven't met one who seems to care and if you mention it you're point scoring, but sorry, I don't give a phuck what club it is, victims of all beasts at whatever club should be compensated.
I've also, unless I've missed it, never seen or heard any famous fan of that mob pleading with their club to do the right thing.

Sickening and disgusting tbh but certainly not surprising considering their history.

NS.

It’s strange indeed, all those false ‘moralists’ so prevalent in 2012 have gone very silent.

 

[Superrangers]

It’s strange indeed, all those false ‘moralists’ so prevalent in 2012 have gone very silent.

Indeed. They really are the scum of the earth. I am thankful that i don’t have to mix with them on a daily basis. I just not think I could.

 

[Blue Lou Boyle]

I totally get and understand that beasts can worm their way into pretty much any place where they can gain access to kids and have influence over them.

Can happen at football clubs, schools you name it.

But this goes way beyond a few rotten eggs.

This was a ring that operated for decades.

Dont the mentally challengeds ever stop and realise that the reason this vile crime is so endemic in both their club and their church is because of the attitude they have of denial and blind loyality towards their institutions?

By refusing to ever get your own house in order, constant denial of ever actually being in the wrong and lashing out in rage at anyone who points out their failings they have created the very atmosphere and culture which attracts beasts to it in the first place.

 

[Papasmurf]

No insurance company insures you for paedophiles and sex abuse.Do you honestly believe that Prudential have a paedo policy for football clubs?

the Co-Op might. Special terms seem to be a done thing.

 

[minder]

They have additional clauses to cover this, at least in sporting insurance contracts in the US.

I know the catholic church in America had insurance but it only paid out half the amount due in compensation.
There was a Welsh MP in the mid 2000s who campaigned against this being included in liability insurance and I'm pretty sure she got her way.
Wales had an appalling record of abuse and it was believed insurance companies were exerting an unfair influence on trials at the time,although I don't think this was ever proven.
As a result of this companies liability insurance changed and to put it another way Celtic wouldn't have a no claims bonus

 

[Mexi]

And to think Desmond's first choice investment was Man Utd. Expect him to become even more distant in the next few years. It could be like the last few years of the Murray era for them

 

[Stez64]

They have additional clauses to cover this, at least in sporting insurance contracts in the US.

I would imagine that companies that get caught unaware that people were being sexually abused would be covered by insurance.

Companies who operate their own paedophile rings though...

 

[kensington blue nose]

No insurance company insures you for paedophiles and sex abuse.Do you honestly believe that Prudential have a paedo policy for football clubs?

Plenty of Insurance companies offer a product, here is just one:

https://nasinsurance.com/products/abuse-molestation-insurance/

Now, i know absolutely nothing about the ins an outs of this cover (I place E&O and Cyber insurance) so can't say if it would cover the sort of thing that went on at celtic, but it is possible that they would have some sort of cover.

 

[minder]

Plenty of Insurance companies offer a product, here is just one:

https://nasinsurance.com/products/abuse-molestation-insurance/

Now, i know absolutely nothing about the ins an outs of this cover (I place E&O and Cyber insurance) so can't say if it would cover the sort of thing that went on at celtic, but it is possible that they would have some sort of cover.

US Company so that may help with their crimes over there.
Liability insurance covers it to a point but it would then come down to who actually is liable.
If the separate entity pish is proved wrong then it would get rather murky I believe.
They sacked and reinstated a paedophile and it was proven in court the board at the time were aware of everything that was happening.
Any insurance company will fight having to pay anything in these circumstances you would imagine on the grounds that Celtic did nothing to prevent it

 

[clubdeckcharlie]

Plenty of Insurance companies offer a product, here is just one:

https://nasinsurance.com/products/abuse-molestation-insurance/

Now, i know absolutely nothing about the ins an outs of this cover (I place E&O and Cyber insurance) so can't say if it would cover the sort of thing that went on at celtic, but it is possible that they would have some sort of cover.

Read the exclusions. No surprise there then.


Ineligible Classes: Catholic churches or Catholic-affiliated organizations Long term residential care International travel/student exchange students Spas/massage therapy Individual persons

 

[Crispy Bacon]

Read the exclusions. No surprise there then.


Ineligible Classes: Catholic churches or Catholic-affiliated organizations Long term residential care International travel/student exchange students Spas/massage therapy Individual persons

Celtic, the club so proudly built on their Catholic tradition and heritage... Brother Wilfred will be spinning etc.

 

[Professor Yaffle]

I genuinely don't know one single mentally challenged who gives a phuck about the victims of the biggest paedophile ring ever to operate at a football club anywhere in the world.
I genuinely haven't met one who seems to care and if you mention it you're point scoring, but sorry, I don't give a phuck what club it is, victims of all beasts at whatever club should be compensated.
I've also, unless I've missed it, never seen or heard any famous fan of that mob pleading with their club to do the right thing.

Sickening and disgusting tbh but certainly not surprising considering their history.

NS.

In 2006 Alan Brazil was on front page of the rebel and headline was boot out clubs that protect perverts.

 

[longtimedead]

An an apology would be an admission of guilt .
Hope they have the morals to get this done it's the fuckin least they must do

What about setting up a telephone helpline for victims ?

They did that .....

 

[Mexi]

Plenty of Insurance companies offer a product, here is just one:

https://nasinsurance.com/products/abuse-molestation-insurance/

Now, i know absolutely nothing about the ins an outs of this cover (I place E&O and Cyber insurance) so can't say if it would cover the sort of thing that went on at celtic, but it is possible that they would have some sort of cover.

The cover would only protect against incidents the started after the policy, not before

So rehiring a known molester like Torbett would invalidate the policy (if he was involved)

 

[clubdeckcharlie]

The cover would only protect against incidents the started after the policy, not before

So rehiring a known molester like Torbett would invalidate the policy (if he was involved)

Not necessarily.
https://nasinsurance.com/products/abuse-molestation-insurance/
Prior acts coverage is available

 

[DougieJones]

One of the things I dont understand is why the general celtic supporters arent up in arms about this. If similar happened at Ibrox, I'd expect us to be putting serious pressure on the board to do the morally right thing. Take responsibility for past failings and puts steps in place to make it right.

What have the fans of city being saying about it? Do they recognise its the right thing to do?

They’re Catholics mate. Church is riddled as well but they still troop off to the chapel on a Sunday. Hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil. If it’s discovered, it’s either option a. ‘it’s the devil wot did it’ or b. ‘all sinners can be forgiven’.

 

[Sutton_Blows_goats]

careful now evidence can go missing..

 

[BlueBaloo]

"Although Celtic Football Club is an entirely separate organisation, we have always taken these allegations extremely seriously because of our historic contacts with Celtic Boys Club.”

They really are despicable

 

[Timskelper]

One of the things I dont understand is why the general celtic supporters arent up in arms about this. If similar happened at Ibrox, I'd expect us to be putting serious pressure on the board to do the morally right thing. Take responsibility for past failings and puts steps in place to make it right.

What have the fans of city being saying about it? Do they recognise its the right thing to do?

I often think exactly that too. I guess we're thankfully different from them.

It's probably because their cult brainwashes them as soon as they enter their sectarian schools at the age of 5. The schools are to blame for a lot as all they do is divide people at an early age.

 

[Awrawans]

bought out all the supplies now ,victims are being asked pink or blue?

 

[buc11]

They should be having their licence revoked and made to reapply, this is not unreasonable.

 

[Whitburnbear]

Hope it makes the bastards bust

 

[Vallance]

They have backed themselves into a corner by denying their involvement.
Put cash aside and that's admittance,
Apologise and that's admittance.
Doubt they will take the lawyer's advice.

 

[ashfield 28]

Feckin' magic

 

[CheltBlue]

What about setting up a telephone helpline for victims ?

They did that .....

Yeah call our helpline and the hush hush team will look after you.

 

[Paisley Ger]

Indeed , they will be insured for the money anyway.

I doubt it - I’m not aware of any insurance company which issues policies to cover sexual abuse of children.

 

[Bermondsey Wall West]

Seperate entity sweep sweep no us point scoring yadda yadda yadda hope they get hammered.

They actually need to be very careful with the separate entity bollox. They will have liability cover that'll offer protection to a certain level for every year the situation run. If they persist on the separate entity stuff, their insurers might just be inclined to agree and say that the insurance therefore doesn't need to respond and that will then leave them flying solo with the courts.

 

[RFC1976]

If this happened at Ibrox anywhere near the scale of this I wouldn't be back. Not a chance.

I would still follow the team but I would be demanding those the done the sickening acts and also directors / staff etc that covered up the originals abuse be brought to justice and made to pay for it along with making sure all victims were apologised to and fully compensated and gave whatever help they needed

 

[tsa57]

This vile club should be killed off. To blatantly cover up vile acts and done nothing to help the kids involved is truly heinous. They should never be allowed to continue as a club.

 

[Deleted member 3807]

"Although Celtic Football Club is an entirely separate organisation, we have always taken these allegations extremely seriously because of our historic contacts with Celtic Boys Club.”

They really are despicable

You've got to wonder about this lie.
Is Celtic's official position Torbett left CBC the first time to pursue business interests? They literally have to say this is what they believe to be true for the "we have always taken these allegations extremely seriously" lie to have any chance of being believed.
Celtic are very lucky Scotland's media and politicians are bursting at the seams with beast supporters. They never have to answer a single question on the paedophile ring operating within Celtic for decades.

 

[Rangers Punk]

Here's hoping that the law does catch up with them.

And that God damns them.

 

[borders billy]

What about setting up a telephone helpline for victims ?

They did that .....

Not sure if serious..
FFS mate

 

[bazil]

Someone started a thread on Kerrydale St saying they need to start talking about it and it was pulled , anyway on a good note I've sent a message through twitter with today's headline in The Sun to all of their sponsors that they have on their website

Great idea where does one obtain such a list

 

[bazil]

And they're trying every dirty trick to guarantee CL qualification

The latest is for past winners to go straight into the group stages

The F88888s have never won the Champions league, and to the best of my knowledge we were the first British to appear in it

 

[jimbear]

Indeed , they will be insured for the money anyway.

In my opinion it would be a very strange insurance policy that would provide cover against any third party who was making a claim on the basis of historical child abuse. Why would any football club have sought cover for something of this nature and I don't think that any reputable insurance broker or company would consider a request for such cover without alarm bells going off all over the place anyway. If (as I hope) they are sued in an American court it will cost them millions.

 

[Brant Hurley]

Paddy McGuire is an able & tenacious litigator. He cannot be intimidated & won't short-change his clients.
Victims deserve justice. Compensation is part of that. An apolgy would be a good (if unlikely) start.

 

[hawkfalcons]

It could be a lifetime transfer budget.

hope the scum go to the wall

 

[dougiem]

Karma is catching up with that horrible club.

 

[indianabluenose]

In my opinion it would be a very strange insurance policy that would provide cover against any third party who was making a claim on the basis of historical child abuse. Why would any football club have sought cover for something of this nature and I don't think that any reputable insurance broker or company would consider a request for such cover without alarm bells going off all over the place anyway. If (as I hope) they are sued in an American court it will cost them millions.

Something I thought I would chime in. Even if they were a separate entity it would not absolve them in American court. The litigant would just have to prove that someone acting as a Celtic employee should have known about abuse and did not report it. I know nothing about Scottish laws but in America are laws are pretty tight about duty to report.

 

[Mexi]

The F88888s have never won the Champions league, and to the best of my knowledge we were the first British to appear in it

It's the same competition when it suits their argument

Same if they liquidate their club if the compensation claims get too high. The new club will still be the same celtc (just like Fergus's celtic is the same as the old athletic coy). Different rules for us though, in Timmy's pea brain

 

[mulguy1953]

This smacks of an out of court settlement with neither side commenting.There will be deals done in backrooms and little or nothing will be said in public.It's the way they operate and the lawyer forcing their hand knows this full well.I fully expect there to be ND clauses coming from all angles and everybody concerned will have no comment crammed into them.

This

 

[Cooper_11]

Shut them down. They have operated a paedophile ring for decades, and swept everything under the carpet. The chickens are now coming home to roost on that vile institution, and they should be disbanded and their cesspit of a stadium bulldozed.

 

[Virgil Hilts]

They’ve had decades worth of income that they shouldn’t have had.

 

[Timskelper]

The F88888s have never won the Champions league, and to the best of my knowledge we were the first British to appear in it

We were indeed and are represented as one of the 8 stars on the CL logo. Let timmy know that every time they mention the CL. I bet that stops them in their tracks.

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