They are genuinely in shock at the rebuild on their plateArguably 2 keepers, 2 right backs and 3-4 strikers assuming Penoard leaves as expected
The only players they’d be happy to keep for next season are arguably Turnbull and McGregor with every else crap, expected to leave or they wish they were.
Stealing songs I is one thing but stealing Alex Ferguson’s ancient Noisy Neighbour patter is a brassneck.
They are trying to make us out to be annoying upstarts, we trounced them for Christ’s sake so STFU!
They should be.They are genuinely in shock at the rebuild on their plate
Still peddling the myth of 53k ST holders I see.
Didn’t take Dom long to learn the ropes.
I hope you are correctLooks to me like their egg-chaser chap is the male Anne Budge, full of wind and pish but no real idea how a fitba club ticks.
Lovely jubbly.
Ahh stupendous. Back in their box, quite right!This is doing the rounds on WhatsApp.
All,
I have just came off zoom fans forum and to say I’m sitting here in disbelief is an understatement. Brian Wilson “there are lots of positives from last season. We won a quadruple treble”
Dominic McKay attended.
As an aside he stated he was a south stand season ticket holder but not when (last season/previous season/forthcoming season)
One thing I found unpleasant was he kept referring to Sevco as the noisy neighbours. Thought it lacked respect for his position. I raised the point that the blame for the fact that they are noisy neighbours lies squarely with the people in the room and building was not answered.
Anyway
He stated he has been impressed by his executive team and all departments of the business. He then contradicted this by saying every area of the club both business and football wise needs to modernise. A contradiction which carried on throughtout the meeting.
5-10 year plan – not finalised. His expertise is in Domestic & International transformation. CL sure to expand but we must respect history of clubs and their communities. His focus has been on the current structure whether that be Lennoxtown/people/etc. Said all great but needs to modernise. So clearly not great. He’s looked at other European club structures (not all football) and plans to implement best practise which clearly shows how far behind we are. Key focus is managerial appointment.
Reading between the lines and his answers to questions and online comments is that we are a shambles and a lot of work needs done.
FANS INTO STADIUM
McKay personally involved with SRU test crowd in Aug so knows all the hurdles. States 1k fans that attended was more difficult to organise/control/etc than a full stadium. Celtic have various models for whatever level of fans will be allowed into stadium and when. Attendees will not be postcode based.
He says he is in discussion with Holyrood/SFA/SPL on getting crowds back in. He is positive it will be in greater numbers than he had hoped for. Euro games a benchmark of 12k based on 1.5 metres social distance at Hampden. The expectation is for 40/50k at the Euro final. However he stated England were 2-3 weeks ahead of the curve than we are in Scotland.
Celtic have met every protocol and are ramping up to include those differences between Wembley & Hampden
SEASON TICKETS
This is where it gets incredibly worrying.
I can’t recall if it was Brian Wilson or Dom McKay who said “lets put last season to bed”. There will be no further added value on this seasons season ticket. This is a consultation period and we want your input. It’s 10 weeks to the new season ffs Expect next season tickets to go on sale end of May (basically as they don’t have a sales proposition). Then the begging bowl came out. Match Day Ticket income is 43/44% of revenue. Season ticket income is £25m. To give £200 refund to each season ticket holder would cost £10.6 million (various ticket prices). If we don’t get 53k season tickets full paid then recruitment will be effected.
30k took refund offered from 9 in a row season.
There was absolutely no plan or suggestion of a proposal from the club. Nothing. This was commented on in disbelief by various attendees
So basically they expect full season ticket price and full uptake whilst they don’t have a manager/squad/plan to get fans in stadium finalised
I would suggest 75% of attendees were sitting in disbelief as to what was being proposed. Forget last season it went wrong oh and gies your money. If you don’t we won’t get players
Anyway enjoy your evening
Lawell is a master at bullying and trodding on others around him.“Reading between the lines and his answers to questions and online comments is that we are a shambles”
After the last 12 months they’ve had I’m stunned that they are surprised by this apparent revelation.
Hopefully they become extinct.For all their looking over the fence at what we have in our wallet, they’ve taken their eye off themselves.
This is a mammoth summer for them. Can’t afford to bring in a good manager and back him with funding, can’t afford to bring in someone shite that results in fans not buying STs
The note said it was from their 9IAR season, i.e. the one cut short and trophy awarded by zoom. So thats what, 4 home games to be refunded for. How much would that be across 30k refunds? £3m?Maybe the 30,000 refunds are what Lawell and Lennon and others have slyly referred to when they’ve said Celtic have been hit harder than most by covid for reasons they wouldn’t elaborate on.
Lovely news regardless
Why Eddie Howe would touch that job still astounds me.
Always felt it was career suicide for him and reading this only strengthens that view.
I heard from a very reliable source (Parkhead contacts) they repaid £3.5m (I've posted this several times). Lawwell complained "its all the rich bastards who want their money back"The note said it was from their 9IAR season, i.e. the one cut short and trophy awarded by zoom. So thats what, 4 home games to be refunded for. How much would that be across 30k refunds? £3m?
The refund was around £120 iirc but that’ll vary by section with kids and concessions too. Maybe £80 average x 30k=£2.4m.Asked in the other thread, anyone know what that cost them?
30,000 fans x 100 each say would be 3mil. Be interesting to know how much of a refund they got.
Also, were there any refunds for the current season? Because, with no fans in stadiums at any match, you’d expect those to be much higher.
Lastly, if they were asking for refunds during the season they won 8.666 and are spewing about this season, have no manager or story to buy in to for the new season, no mythical 10 to be won, you have to imagine sales will be poor this coming season.
At this rate they'll be renting it out on Airbnb to raise a bit of cashlooks like the top tier of torbett towers will be hidden under another blanket then
“It’s true, all of it”Notes from Fans Forum
Brian Wilson chairing the meeting :
Mentioned quadruple treble
Positives for Lennon
Positives for Lawwell
Season tickets lifeblood of the club
45 people on the call
New website
Fans forum page
Minutes on site or available from JPT
Parking
Put views to council. Mentioned cycle lanes
Away matches - anymore clarity on allocation of tickets
South stand facilities
Tommy burns statue or tribute
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Dom McKay
He heads off for his retirement - DM on PL
Mentioned ESL was his first day
Celtic need to be ready and react to changes
He wants to meet fans early as possible he told PL that
Profoundly disappointing
Sufficating going for 10
Laser focused for success
Competing in Europe
Speaking well so far. No much soundbites
Managerial front
Lots happening
Frustrating it's taken so long
Making progress
Engage deeply with supporters
Big challenge from noisy neighbours
I Asked DM about Europe and where he sees Celtic playing in 5-10 years.
CL will expand more games
Need to be respectful of various leagues
Aim for succes in the league and then take it into European football
DOF and structure question answered by DM
Modernising the club
Quality of our structure but needs to keep evolving as a club to be successful
Focus on manager first but also keep evolving in other departments
DM - Supporters back in the ground
Experience working with Scottish and UK government
Been in contact with Scottish government
Confident of decent numbers coming in this season more than he expected
40-45k in grounds around time of Euro finals
We could have reasonably large numbers back by start of season subject to Covid.
Club working and fine tuning plans to give to relevant authorities and change any details that need to be
This weekend may harm(George square) . The way we behave will help us get back.
Do what we can to help to club get fans back.
Various forums and other fans - work together to get the fans back.
Fan - more clarity and communication from the club needed
Can let actions of any other clubs dictate what the rest of the football
Strong position from club needed in regard.
DM raised the point to authorities actions of other fans not representive of football in general.
Would it be specific fans back or would it be postcode?
DM - raised with SG. Making the case not to discriminate to any fans in regards to where they live
Complicated situation which has to be remembered
Club may need to over communicate in regards to getting back in the ground
DM - we need to address the disconnet with fans
44% of our revenue is season book and match day ticket sales
It’s Gona be far far bigger than what we went through with advocaat. Delightful.I'm hopeful they're about to go through a similar downsizing process that we went through after Advocaat. It looks the same from the outside, massive success over a decade or so but a rot sinking in at every level in the club with a huge wage bill that needs to be cut to a more manageable level.
Asked in the other thread, anyone know what that cost them?
30,000 fans x 100 each say would be 3mil. Be interesting to know how much of a refund they got.
Meanwhile we have 30k renewals!!!That was thoroughly enjoyable reading.
~30k refunds
“30k took refund” - faithful frew and frew.
“30k took refund” - faithful frew and frew.
Bast***, beat me top it!! LolSchool uniforms need bought
Why Eddie Howe would touch that job still astounds me.
Always felt it was career suicide for him and reading this only strengthens that view.
You forgot about Diego Armando Forrest!Arguably 2 keepers, 2 right backs and 3-4 strikers assuming Penoard leaves as expected
The only players they’d be happy to keep for next season are arguably Turnbull and McGregor with everyone else crap, expected to leave or they wish they were.
30k refunds. Fucking hell. Absolute peasants. Embarrassing support.