When it matters this sides bottle crashes.

THEGOVANFRONT

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Can't get the logic of this result being down to bottle unlike other performances where bottle was 100% the problem last season
We gifted 2 goals
But whilst the 2nd should have been chopped off for offside it started from Goldson's over-confidence not bottle in trying to play out instead of clearing his lines

We started really well until we gifted them the 1st then were poor for 10mins or so but came out & totally dominated the 2nd half scoring a really good goal and missing other decent chances
It seems to be the same old story where refereeing decisions come back to bite us when we don't take our chances

As I've posted elsewhere its all a case of what if and we are probably all getting sick n tired of it with dropping points in games we deserved to win only to have the 3points taken away by gifting goals and/or referess bias coming into play
 

TN8

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Can't get the logic of this result being down to bottle unlike other performances where bottle was 100% the problem last season
We gifted 2 goals
But whilst the 2nd should have been chopped off for offside it started from Goldson's over-confidence not bottle in trying to play out instead of clearing his lines

We started really well until we gifted them the 1st then were poor for 10mins or so but came out & totally dominated the 2nd half scoring a really good goal and missing other decent chances
It seems to be the same old story where refereeing decisions come back to bite us when we don't take our chances

As I've posted elsewhere its all a case of what if and we are probably all getting sick n tired of it with dropping points in games we deserved to win only to have the 3points taken away by gifting goals and/or referess bias coming into play

Its just the buzz phrase for the posters who are prone to hissy fits whenever we don't win a game. I've yet to see one of them explain what it means or how it applies to the draw today or at Livingston.
 

Biniaro11

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Need a trophy in the bag or the op’s point will become more of an issue among our fans and the anti Rangers media.
 

wilso10

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Its just the buzz phrase for the posters who are prone to hissy fits whenever we don't win a game. I've yet to see one of them explain what it means or how it applies to the draw today or at Livingston.

They'll have read it in an Athletic article or something 6 months ago.
 

strider

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Yes because when the pressure is on it’s us that melt and gift goals.

Same side same mentality it’s there for all to see you can deny and kid on being mr positive but it’s easy to see trough it.

You think I'm "kidding on"?

I'm quite happy to tell you I'm not.
 

prenzlauerbear

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It's a claim that will only be quelled with silverware.

I do have a nagging feeling that Rugby Park, Easter Road, Tynecastle and Pittodrie will be the death knell for Gerrard at Rangers.

I reckon this team will give us plenty of moments to cheer this year, but have the same suspicion that our form at these venues will see that we fall short in the league.
 

kai-Johansen59

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The truth may be that we are simply not good enough.

Comparison with our past title winning teams is largely irrelevant.

We currently compete in a relatively poor league against rivals who rarely drop points to anyone apart from us

I haven’t looked it up but, excluding old firm games, I would imagine it would normally take them almost half a seasons worth of games to drop the 4 points we have managed to fritter away in 8 games.

The brutal fact is that we are up against a team which does not drop many points.

So, unless we are content with 2nd place, we can’t afford to drop points the way we currently do.

A glimmer of hope may be that they haven’t played the top half teams as yet but even if they did drop points would we be capable of going on a sustained run?
 

Timardim

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Hard to argue with the OP. That was the first big domestic test of the season and yet again we failed to get the job done. No doubt there will be comforting excuses made by many posters but the bottom line is that we have too many results of this nature.

P=8 , W=6 ,D=2......?
 

Stuhercules

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Bottle ??? Not so sure of that cause I've noticed a distinct desire recently to battle and win balls. The question is do they have the desire and hunger to win a title ?

We should never lose a game like this after the way we owned the match.
 

Herbie53

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Eh no ignoring the referee is one treat too many of our support excel in, the goalscorer Wright should have been off the park for a stamp on Kent’s foot, does that next week on Brown and he’ll walk.
Had to laugh at Walker, well not really at his description of Hibs being a little bit nasty, why were they allowed to be is the question the new hero of FF, Boyd should have ask the little prick.
It’s not ignoring them, my point is that we shouldn’t be leaving it in their hands. Had ample opportunities to kill the game off but the bottle went and we paid for it. Everyone knows what the referees are, incompetent, useless and not fit for purpose but the fact remains that we didn’t kill the game off when the opportunity presented itself
 

Route 55

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Instead of turning on the team and manager as usually happens we should be going for throats of the officials who were yet again abysmal and cost us yet again.
 

mad4rfcme

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Goldson gifted the ball to a hibs player in a real dangerous position and Helander got bullied at the other goal, very sloppy at both. I am gutted at this result today.
 

Ke55y

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The utter panty wetting and meltdowns within the support because of a draw in a game we totally dominated and cheating officials to boot is stupid. Every time we don’t win a game all the players are shite the manager is shite get a fucking grip ffs
 

Ponientebear

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It’s not ignoring them, my point is that we shouldn’t be leaving it in their hands. Had ample opportunities to kill the game off but the bottle went and we paid for it. Everyone knows what the referees are, incompetent, useless and not fit for purpose but the fact remains that we didn’t kill the game off when the opportunity presented itself
All that is true but again another decision goes against us, leaving it in the hands of someone perfectly positioned to see Boyle being offside, again didn’t do his job, so from reading your post you are ignoring them.
 

Rudolph Hucker

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I disagree. This side don’t have any bottle to begin with.

Every time the pressure is on in the league, every time we have the opportunity to exert some pressure and open up a lead in the table, every single time this team blow it. And every single time the same players are responsible for gifting goals, making terrible mistakes or missing easy goal scoring chances. Every time for the last 2 and a bit years, and it still continues.

Questions should be asked but won’t be. Plus we should be exerting pressure on the appalling decisions against us, but every single time our management refuse to do so. Every single time. The management doesn’t change, the players don’t change, therefore the results don’t change. Is anyone surprised?
 

Pentasa

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Its just the buzz phrase for the posters who are prone to hissy fits whenever we don't win a game. I've yet to see one of them explain what it means or how it applies to the draw today or at Livingston.

Its actually been explained to you a couple of times but you've chosen to ignore them as it doesn't suit you for what ever reason :)

And "bottle" is hardly a new phrase or buzz word its been around forever
 

oldtimer

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Can't get the logic of this result being down to bottle unlike other performances where bottle was 100% the problem last season
We gifted 2 goals
But whilst the 2nd should have been chopped off for offside it started from Goldson's over-confidence not bottle in trying to play out instead of clearing his lines

We started really well until we gifted them the 1st then were poor for 10mins or so but came out & totally dominated the 2nd half scoring a really good goal and missing other decent chances
It seems to be the same old story where refereeing decisions come back to bite us when we don't take our chances

As I've posted elsewhere its all a case of what if and we are probably all getting sick n tired of it with dropping points in games we deserved to win only to have the 3points taken away by gifting goals and/or referess bias coming into play
If Alfie's goal had stood would we still be bottlers?
 

crmpicco

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Are you surprised? I am fucking sick that we dropped points today and it hurts. Can’t be arsed with those who shrug there shoulders and say never mind. It seems that a lot on here are happy with mediocrity
My belief is there has been some psychological damage done to some, not all, of our support who are genuinely semi-content at finishing second as long as they can get away trips in Europe to get on the piss.

I've had a night's sleep to calm down and think about it but I am around 80% sure this is Gerrard's last season at the club and he's going to slunk out the door before that lot lift the title in May.
 

Bknowe

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My belief is there has been some psychological damage done to some, not all, of our support who are genuinely semi-content at finishing second as long as they can get away trips in Europe to get on the piss.

I've had a night's sleep to calm down and think about it but I am around 80% sure this is Gerrard's last season at the club and he's going to slunk out the door before that lot lift the title in May.

Unless he gets over his fear of making subs and grows a set to call out the officials then it will be.
 

yarrumdavid01

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Problem been there for 3 years and is still there. Midfield enforcer and midfielder who can and does score.

Our midfield cost £50k and sometimes it shows.
 

andrewmont1

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Problem been there for 3 years and is still there. Midfield enforcer and midfielder who can and does score.

Our midfield cost £50k and sometimes it shows.
It cost £50k because of the situation with the players contracts at the time And you know that. Picking up Aribo and Kamara for £50k is great business. At a different point in their contracts that would have been a £10 million figure. People are now saying they will go for £10 million each, so I don't agree with what you are saying. What is costing the team now is a bad run of injuries.
 

Geerfc19

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If we genuinely have dropped points from a winning position for the 12th time under Gerrard. That is hugely concerning.
 

Herbie53

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Kamara imo isn’t suited to the majority of games in Scotland, he requires too much time on the ball which leads to his passes being intercepted or him being dispossessed, also his hesitation to win back possession or pull the trigger in and around the box is beyond frustrating.

He’ll leave for a bigger and better league and show how good he is. Games like yesterday seem to pass him by quite often.

He wasn’t the issue yesterday, I feel Gerrard maybe got the selection wrong or had his hand forced by injuries.
 

daviemc1872

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its a kick in the teeth, but also need to remember drawing at easter road isnt a disaster, as long as we avoid dropping points at home to killie and aberdeen etc and worse.
 

Recoba

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Its only one game but my optimism is gone now, its the same players and same issues again, we don't kill teams off and i just don't know what to say anymore I'm just fed up with it.

We have to keep going and see how the Motherwell and scum games go, I feel more confident of beating the filth than I did Hibs or Motherwell.
 

MB72

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I’ve got a horrible feeling we’ll be having the same discussions next week after the motherwell game.
 
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