Artful Dodger
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So after 499 pages and 24901 post are we actuall selling anyone? More importantly are we signing anyone?
Yes, eh no, eh maybe.So after 499 pages and 24901 post are we actuall selling anyone? More importantly are we signing anyone?
The key is getting them to renew that’s what will define this windowExcept half of this team is out of contract in a years time, selling one or two of them will put us in a much better position
Neither will happen in my opinion. We will sign someone.Souttars fit he starts 100%
Its the being fit which is the question.
Only if we sell/loan 2 out of helander/katic/simpson.Neither will happen in my opinion. We will sign someone.
Would take Ahmedhozic but doubt we will spend 4m on a CB right now
Hagi is not a right winger its been tested and simply not worked. Hope that Gio has no plans to play him out there next season
Need better than Diallo too. A proper RW that can give us numbers and balance
All three will be away one way or another in my opinion. We will collect roughly £3 million. Will nearly pay for Ahmedhozic or similar.Only if we sell/loan 2 out of helander/katic/simpson.
We've had enough of thoseFwiw i think souttars going to be a great signing for us.
Call it it a gut feeling.
If he stays fit I'm pretty confident he'll be quality.Fwiw i think souttars going to be a great signing for us.
Call it it a gut feeling.
Is that so Nathan, has some Glaswegian company sitting on the bench?There's talk that Everton are after Billy Gilmour. Highly rated by Lampard who gave him his Chelsea debut.
Could be another rumour struck off the list.
Only if we sell/loan 2 out of helander/katic/simpson.
Absolutely grigo.I’d be willing to sell all 3 to get one reliable & quality replacement.
This is The ideal scenario. Simpson, Helander and Katic out, Ahmedhozic in. For example.I’d be willing to sell all 3 to get one reliable & quality replacement.
We had one.No we aren't we've not even started pre-season yet. We aren't going into this one with key players involved in internationals all coming back at different times due to Euros/Copa America. We've got a camp organised this time as well something that was cancelled last season and we won't be going into qualifiers with 3 key players suspended (from the previous season) or in a quarantine hotel as well as Roofe being suspended.
Malmo we had no excuses at home played 10 men for 50 minutes and lost the game that was on Gerrard. Alashkert was garbage but given we had a COVID outbreak before the 2nd leg then it could have been a whole load worse.
Dread to think what this place is going to be like next weekend after we play Thistle.
Blackburn rovers want him. why would we be wanting him anyway?All three will be away one way or another in my opinion. We will collect roughly £3 million. Will nearly pay for Ahmedhozic or similar.
Because he’s a powerful dominant experienced centre half who would be prefect foil for Goldson?Blackburn rovers want him. why would we be wanting him anyway?
This is The ideal scenario. Simpson, Helander and Katic out, Ahmedhozic in. For example.
Has he been mentioned by anyone?Because he’s a powerful dominant experienced centre half who would be prefect foil for Goldson?
Absolutely grigo.
Suppose my point was we need to move 2 on to bring another cb in.
We had one.
Which very rarely gets talked about.
They were 10 games into their season.
We hadn't or barely... kicked off ours.
This is a massive advantage to any side.
Great shout. Bringing in someone like Okumu or Ahmedhozic for a little more than what we will bring in by selling Simpson, Katic and Helander would be a total no brainer.Another guy I like, and I think we were rumoured to be after him last season, is Joseph Okumu mate.
He’s at Gent now, 25yo, but might cost 4-5m ?
As I’ve said elsewhere, this is a sort of signing I was expecting from Vos’s knowledge.He would be a bit of a gamble. But at same time you do have to take them now and again.
It's probably a higher level even though it is open than Morelos was doing it at in Finland.
Spot on. Those are the key three additions needed. Then replacing any key player who may leave.I agree but I think the key additions are more quality at right wing, more drive and energy from midfield and a good back up striker (or two, if Roofe is moved on).
If we can get 40/45 starts a season out of Souttar, I'd be pretty happy.If he stays fit I'm pretty confident he'll be quality.
That "if" is something we've said a lot with players before though and quite often it doesn't end well.
Souttar will be on the bench imo
Thats what I've been saying G ... our back line is a time bomb of injuries I think mateI’d be willing to sell all 3 to get one reliable & quality replacement.
Malmö couldn't afford his wages, and he ain't heading there at 29.I believe Ahmedhodzic had a €4.5 million buy option at bordeaux. But due to their financial issues, they couldn't complete it. So that was around £3.8 million.
Helander is an ex malmo player and has already stated he wants to return to Malmo before the end of his career.
I'm not say this would work but offering them Helander as part of the deal and getting the fee down, would solve a few problems. Stops us having so many injury prone Cbs, gets us a highly rated CB at a decent price, gives Malmo a big CB signing and allows Helander to see out his career in a less physical league.
I mean that's all pipedream stuff.
In saying that I don't see us signing a CB unless Helander leaves. We have Goldson, Souttar, Helander, King. We then have Sands, Lundstrom and Bassey who can fill in at CB. Then there's Simpson and Katic to be moved on aswell.
Great shout. Bringing in someone like Okumu or Ahmedhozic for a little more than what we will bring in by selling Simpson, Katic and Helander would be a total no brainer.
Starting the season with Goldson, Ahmedhozic/okumu, Souttar and King as your 4 would be fantastic.
Imagine a defence with McLaughlin, Tavernier, Goldson, Okumu and Bassey? Wow. Talk about impenetrable.
Nobody is buying Helander if he's still in a 'moon boot' and probably not until he has double-digit games under his belt. I wonder if he's even fit to start training soon. Nobody is buying Simpson because he's not very good. There's probably a deal to be done on Katic but we will have to reduce our asking price. We won't be getting £4m for those three, not this window.Great shout. Bringing in someone like Okumu or Ahmedhozic for a little more than what we will bring in by selling Simpson, Katic and Helander would be a total no brainer.
Starting the season with Goldson, Ahmedhozic/okumu, Souttar and King as your 4 would be fantastic.
Imagine a defence with McLaughlin, Tavernier, Goldson, Okumu and Bassey? Wow. Talk about impenetrable.
I’m hopeful of another CB to partner Goldson. Souttar and Helander injury history is terrible. Okay, we’ve got Bassey but Barišić isn’t exactly mr indestructible ala, Connor Goldson.
With Davis, Arfield and Jack with one year remaining on their contract, and Sands loan coming to an end, I think we could justify that for one season if the right player becomes available.I agree with you PMB, I’m just not confident on the midfielder without someone going out.
As much as I don't want to use them as a comparison, the fact they got the top goalscorer from the division above the one Dallinga plays in for a million quid cheaper tells me that he's overpriced at €4 million. Its obviously a better level than our second tier, but it's not an elite league. Would a team for example, pay £1.5-2 million quid for a player from ICT or Dunfermline?If Dallinga is at this price I’d hope we’d consider guys like Botheim & Amin Sarr, as they’ve proven themselves at a higher level & would have a similar cost.
We keep hearing “ nobody will buy” and “ nobody will take” but clubs will be found for players. Hastie was the first of many , we got a small fee of 200k but again we were told nobody would take him. Teams will pay a moderate fee for guys like Helander even with his injury history in the hope he’s due some luck.Nobody is buying Helander if he's still in a 'moon boot' and probably not until he has double-digit games under his belt. I wonder if he's even fit to start training soon. Nobody is buying Simpson because he's not very good. There's probably a deal to be done on Katic but we will have to reduce our asking price. We won't be getting £4m for those three, not this window.
As were Lundstram and Sakala. I think people would be happier if we stuck a few million on when signing them for free.If Souttar was under contract he would be a £2/3m signing. He’ll be starting when fit.
With Davis, Arfield and Jack with one year remaining on their contract, and Sands loan coming to an end, I think we could justify that for one season if the right player becomes available.
I think a leader in the middle of the park could make a massive difference to us.
As were Lundstram and Sakala. I think people would be happier if we stuck a few million on when signing them for free.
My point on Helander is that nobody will buy him - right now - if they cannot play him. Last seen in a 'moon boot'. Will he even be ready to start training on Monday? Will he kick a ball, even in a friendly, before the window closes? Right now I'd say its debatable so, on that basis, nobody will buy him this window.We keep hearing “ nobody will buy” and “ nobody will take” but clubs will be found for players. Hastie was the first of many , we got a small fee of 200k but again we were told nobody would take him. Teams will pay a moderate fee for guys like Helander even with his injury history in the hope he’s due some luck.
I think we will get £1.5 mill for Helander, same for Katic, maybe 500k for Simpson. We may need to take 400k for wee Middleton and ofoborth we will come to an agreement over his health.
We will sell Bjorna for around £5 million as well and we may also sell Roofe for £2.5 million although I’d say that’s less likely.
So all in somewhere between £8 and £10million Income, and hopefully we keep our main boys with Aribo kent and Alfie all renewing.
Either way it will be 6/7 players out and 2/3 players of good quality in to supplement what is already a highly talented squad with a great mixture of youth and experience.
If it’s not broken you don’t fix it.
Not defending that.Them being 10 games into their season isn't an excuse for us not being able to defend properly.
I’d be pretty disappointed if we spent £2m/£3m on Sakala tbh.
Souttar will be starting with Goldson and Diallo won’t be anywhere near us again
I think that's a fair point.I agree Mark, I just don’t think we’ll get that player without Joe or Glen going.
See you on the other side brother