The Summer 2022 Rangers Transfer Window Rumours and Deals - Thread

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Probably shouldn’t have signed John Souttar then going by that logic
I'd still maintain not relying on injury prone players is good logic.

I wouldn't have signed Souttar because of his injury record tbh but he won't be on big wages and we didn't pay a fee.

Helander, Roofe and Barisic must have cost us £8-9 Million plus higher wages and just can't be relied on sadly.
 
What do you think the answer is here?
Where is Wilson going wrong?
It’s a genuine question because I don’t know how he can strong arm other clubs into agreement, despite the scum’s apparent successes.
I don’t know but i’d absolutely say part of his remit is to sell players at ‘peak value’ which we have absolutely not done. Surely it’s one of the objectives of the job?
 
I'd still maintain not relying on injury prone players is good logic.

I wouldn't have signed Souttar because of his injury record tbh but he won't be on big wages and we didn't pay a fee.

Helander, Roofe and Barisic must have cost us £8-9 Million plus higher wages and just can't be relied on sadly.
All three have contributed greatly to what the team achieved last two seasons.
 
You just wonder, if we get through QR3, will they make that 5m available for an extra player in any position that Gio wants ?
Getting through QR3 makes little difference I'd think.

Yes we get some money for playing in that qualifier but it's not massive.

At the moment we're guaranteed Europa group stages the significant change in funds comes for winning the play off game, if that was gonna happen they may as well have banked on it for QR3 too.
 
Don't forget we actually beat Braga though.

Our team may have been older, but it was better.

If King can prove himself better than Goldson, Souttar, or Helander, then he'll get starts.

You don't play youth just for the sake of it.
You only play them if they improve your team.

I'm very relaxed about the centre back situation.

Goldson is Goldson.

Fil had a nightmare last season - the second injury was just unlucky. He'll be desperate to prove his fitness next year. I think he has at least one solid season of football in him.

Big John still made 36 appearances for Hearts last year, and would have been more if he didn't get his tidy up job to be at optimum fitness for us. He'll be aiming to clock in at least 40 games next year in his development.

If both are out, then there's Calvin Bassey.

It's not an area to worry about at all.
 
Getting through QR3 makes little difference I'd think.

Yes we get some money for playing in that qualifier but it's not massive.

At the moment we're guaranteed Europa group stages the significant change in funds comes for winning the play off game, if that was gonna happen they may as well have banked on it for QR3 too.

Don’t we get 5m if we win the QR3 tie mate ?
 
That’s my issue with Colak - quality over quantity. I would much rather we spend whatever budget is available on a right sided forward and a number 8 (who can shoot from range!). If they really want a 3rd option to replace Itten, then use the loan market for that.
What club is giving us a striker to be third option?

Also, there’s very little chance Colak is going to be third choice.
 
I think Colak & the right winger will be both SSB, and we hopefully get another quality guy if the CL or Qualifying round is achieved ?

My main issue is - No squad players please, quality over quantity.
That's my worry too, racks my brain why we signed Simpson, Barker, Jones, Hastie it'd hardly be sticking your neck out to say they'd all be pish.
 
All three have contributed greatly to what the team achieved last two seasons.
Definitely mate and I love all three of them but they aren't robust enough now to be relied upon for long periods.

I just think it's time we start thinking about the future without them over the next 12-18 months.
 
I'm very relaxed about the centre back situation.

Goldson is Goldson.

Fil had a nightmare last season - the second injury was just unlucky. He'll be desperate to prove his fitness next year. I think he has at least one solid season of football in him.

Big John still made 36 appearances for Hearts last year, and would have been more if he didn't get his tidy up job to be at optimum fitness for us. He'll be aiming to clock in at least 40 games next year in his development.

If both are out, then there's Calvin Bassey.

It's not an area to worry about at all.
I don’t want to the one to deliver bad news but apparently Helander playing football on a regular basis is entering pipe dream phase.

This comes from a guy that is ortho at Rosshall and has done checks on McGregor, Davis, Arfield & Rory Wilson recently.
 
I can see Lowry getting that, but I think it will be hard for King to get anything like that, unless we have injury or suspension issues mate.


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Hard to develop and improve without game time.

We have multiple league games where he would hardly be tested and our regulars would benefit from a break.

He has looked very comfortable in his game time so far.
 
Getting through QR3 makes little difference I'd think.

Yes we get some money for playing in that qualifier but it's not massive.

At the moment we're guaranteed Europa group stages the significant change in funds comes for winning the play off game, if that was gonna happen they may as well have banked on it for QR3 too.

Wee absolutely can’t turn our noses up at €5m
 
Don't forget we actually beat Braga though.

Our team may have been older, but it was better.

If King can prove himself better than Goldson, Souttar, or Helander, then he'll get starts.

You don't play youth just for the sake of it.
You only play them if they improve your team.

Braga were also 5th in the Portuguese league with zero expectations of winning anything. No pressure on their youngsters to go out and not make any mistakes and make sure they win every game.
 
I don’t want to the one to deliver bad news but apparently Helander playing football on a regular basis is entering pipe dream phase.

This comes from a guy that is ortho at Rosshall and has done checks on McGregor, Davis, Arfield & Rory Wilson recently.

I always thought his style of play would make him liable to injuries. When he's properly on it, he's all over strikers like a rash. He suffocates them, and gets so tight. He completely bodied the big Porto lad that way. Nightmare to play against.

At the same time, it makes him more susceptible to kicks. Which is what happened with Brophy. Not sure his body can really handle it.

Would love to believe the big man can give us another season, but wouldn't be surprised if he was on the decline either.

Some player on his day though, and worth taking another chance on. Love big Fil.
 
So why would we prioritise Helander over Souttar when Souttar is the better defender?

You're not being serious - Are you ?
No wish to be confrontational / negative or disrespectful- but I have to say I couldn't disagree more

I sincerely hope Souttar comes on leaps & bounds next season & is a stalwart solid performer for years to come
& I'm not Helander's biggest fan - but right now the difference or gap between them (when neither of them are injured) is IMO - enormous
 
A fit back three of Helander Souttar and Goldson would be brilliant. I still think we need to replace Balogun, which will most likely be a back up type signing.
 
I don’t want to the one to deliver bad news but apparently Helander playing football on a regular basis is entering pipe dream phase.

This comes from a guy that is ortho at Rosshall and has done checks on McGregor, Davis, Arfield & Rory Wilson recently.
He’s played 31% of league games in his three seasons at the club. That’s under 1 in 3 games.

You don’t have to be a specialist to know he can’t be relied on. I love the big guy but he’s been one of our poorest signings in our recent history for the outlay.

But that’s football. Signings don’t work out. I do hope we can squeeze another season out of him if we can manage him properly and luck is on side.
 
If Helander had played every game a season for 4 years I think he would have made easily more mistakes than Goldson.
Based on what? As I mentioned earlier in this thread, Rangers with Helander at CB never lost a league game until recently.

We were unbeaten for a period in every single game he played in domestically.

A fit Helander is a monster of a CB.

Also a Scottish Premiership winner.
 
I'm very relaxed about the centre back situation.

Goldson is Goldson.

Fil had a nightmare last season - the second injury was just unlucky. He'll be desperate to prove his fitness next year. I think he has at least one solid season of football in him.

Big John still made 36 appearances for Hearts last year, and would have been more if he didn't get his tidy up job to be at optimum fitness for us. He'll be aiming to clock in at least 40 games next year in his development.

If both are out, then there's Calvin Bassey.

It's not an area to worry about at all.
I think Bassey is ahead of both to play CH. I wouldn't be surprised to sell Borna and get in a new LB and start season as we more or less finished it give or take odd game here or there with Bassey as the left sided CH. Obviously that is if no 1 bids 20 plus million for him.
 
Just a shame he’s not fit as often as required. Goldson is the best centre half in Scotland.
Helander needed replaced because he’s far too injury prone and cannot be relied upon. However, to bring in a guy with arguably an even worse injury record is mind boggling.
 
A fit back three of Helander Souttar and Goldson would be brilliant. I still think we need to replace Balogun, which will most likely be a back up type signing.

We should have retained Balogun for another year, hopefully it doesn’t come back to haunt us
 
He’s played 31% of league games in his three seasons at the club. That’s under 1 in 3 games.

You don’t have to be a specialist to know he can’t be relied on. I love the big guy but he’s been one of our poorest signings in our recent history for the outlay.

But that’s football. Signings don’t work out. I do hope we can squeeze another season out of him if we can manage him properly and luck is on side.

Compared to John Souttar’s 39 league appearances in last three seasons.

Souttar has made 49 appearances in all competitions over the last three seasons. Helander has 60.
 
Just a shame he’s not fit as often as required. Goldson is the best centre half in Scotland.
We have three of the best CBs in Scottish Football that's for sure.

If Helander and Souttar stay fit, that's a cracking back three should we need it.
 
A fit back three of Helander Souttar and Goldson would be brilliant. I still think we need to replace Balogun, which will most likely be a back up type signing.

Isn't Souttar replacing Balogun? I don't want any backup type signings. What's the point when we have Leon King?

Nobody can seriously tell me a signing such as the likes of Jack Simpson, George Edmundson or Gareth McCauley is more worthwhile than letting King play that role and giving him a chance to prove he's good enough. I really don't think another backup type signing is needed for centre half this season, especially when we have multiple players who can fill in.
 
It's exciting to think Lowry may end up establishing himself as important member of the squad as the season goes on. King could also be in the reckoning, although that could be difficult right now.
 
A fit filip helander is the best centre half in Scotland. Hands down
Simply not fit enough and because of that I’d sell him. We cannot carry these players who are only available a couple of times a month. We all know who falls into that category and I’d prefer most of them to be moved on.
 
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