Stonedandhappy
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Just like when Ally was manager.The manager has sucked the belief out of the players and the support.
We get it back when he goes.
He also knew how to coach the football out of a player.
Just like when Ally was manager.The manager has sucked the belief out of the players and the support.
We get it back when he goes.
Always going backwards is lacking confidence even Steve McManaman said so in commentary.These toothless displays stem from belief.
When we had it, went toe to toe with some very good European teams.
Now we don't have it, and even better teams are swatting us aside.
How do we get it back?
Neither do any of us!!!I don’t think the players have any belief in the system or the philosophy, I’m not convinced they even know what it is
Agreed. He probably thought WTF is going on with that team?Did we ever play in Europe and not “have a go” under Gerrard?
I bet he was sat there watching us tonight like Don Revie watching Clough’s Leeds
Do you want Rangers being so passive and standing off opponents, hoping for the best. And I know what I am talking about. I know Liverpool’s quality, their budget and the gulf. But we should have a game plan, a first touch, a press, an aggression and confidence in possession. Our plan and our attempts at possession were embarrsssing for 80 minutes.I'm sorry man but I don't think you know what you're talking about. Liverpool are capable of absolutely scudding teams 10x better and 50x more expensive than ours.
We are a decent Europa league team, thats our levelI think we maybe overestimated our chances in the CL. Obviously we done amazingly last season in europe but i think we overachieved giving us a false sense of where we actually are on a European level.
Thanks for the reply.
Liverpool played four up front probably the only time they'll play this way is against Rangers. They suffocated us as we don't have the quality to get out. You saw this with Davis, Lundstram and Kent.
There's a reason they're with us.
I know your hurting, I am too, but Liverpool are probably two or three levels above us atm. 12 years ago we were in div 3.
The journey might be completed domestically... but on a Euro Champs League Level, we're in at the basement fella atm.
Gerrard wouldn't have taken us to that final, he was too dogmatic with his 433.I genuinely think some on here think Gerrard had us in the Final of the Europa League last year before GVB was appointed, not on the brink of elimination
Except our clueless performance.Liverpool have in Mo Salah one of the maybe top 10 players in the world? One of the best right backs in the world. One of the best centre backs in the world. Spent 80 mil on a striker this summer.
We lost. Of course we lost.
I'm not Gio's biggest fan but there's nothing to read into tonight.
It also stems from fitness. We were second to the ball all over the park. We were static, they were active. My understanding is that the coaches have sacrificed some fitness training for technical skill training. Tonight I saw the consequences of the former but not the benefit of the latter. I can accept that a team which has cost probably £300/400 million will be better than us but not that they should be fitter. That is totally unacceptable.These toothless displays stem from belief.
When we had it, went toe to toe with some very good European teams.
Now we don't have it, and even better teams are swatting us aside.
How do we get it back?
And the fact they were fitter than us.Except our clueless performance.
Exactly the attitude our players had,Liverpool have in Mo Salah one of the maybe top 10 players in the world? One of the best right backs in the world. One of the best centre backs in the world. Spent 80 mil on a striker this summer.
We lost. Of course we lost.
I'm not Gio's biggest fan but there's nothing to read into tonight.
We weren't poor Liverpool are miles above us. Let that sink in... They'll do this to better sides than us and pump them 4 5 6 nil.Liverpool are several levels above us. In no way am I denying that. That does not explain how poor we were. That is the biggest 2 - 0 pumping I’ve seen. They could’ve put 7 or 8 past us and it wouldn’t have been unfair.
We didn’t even compete, at any point. The amount of times we played 2 consecutive passes… once, maybe twice in 90 minutes?
This is not a singular event.
Why can’t we compete with Napoli?We are out of our depth at this level. Liverpool, Napoli , Ajax . We can’t compete.
And even he wasn’t faultless.Gerrard 2018-2022 - never lost by more than 2 goals.
GVB - lost by 4 goals twice, 3 goals twice.
Last season’s EL run was amazing but we’re clearly not as difficult to beat as we were under Gerrard.
Maybe we can now stop all the talk of moving to England, we would need to buy a new team, Liverpool are so many levels above us, that much is obvious after tonight.I think it's obvious it's down to the tactics and the manager , really is that simple
There is an argument that he made us money improving Bassey but there's also the argument he has cost us just as much with the regression of key assets such as kent , kamara & tav.
We had no intention of trying to win tonight. Exactly the same as Ajax where the same manager came out and said we can't compete
They didn’t even try.We weren't poor Liverpool are miles above us. Let that sink in... They'll do this to better sides than us and pump them 4 5 6 nil.
We lost to two set pieces, free kick and a pen. The players gave their all.
We weren't poor Liverpool are miles above us. Let that sink in... They'll do this to better sides than us and pump them 4 5 6 nil.
We lost to two set pieces, free kick and a pen. The players gave their all.
How about against out domestic rivals then?Liverpool have in Mo Salah one of the maybe top 10 players in the world? One of the best right backs in the world. One of the best centre backs in the world. Spent 80 mil on a striker this summer.
We lost. Of course we lost.
I'm not Gio's biggest fan but there's nothing to read into tonight.
Maybe just a few new players, just like most seasons, and a new manager, with, dare I say it, positive tactics.Maybe we can now stop all the talk of moving to England, we would need to buy a new team, Liverpool are so many levels above us, that much is obvious after tonight.
Ironic that your OP Title describes..These toothless displays stem from belief.
When we had it, went toe to toe with some very good European teams.
Now we don't have it, and even better teams are swatting us aside.
How do we get it back?
It's down, in the main, to the level of opposition.I think it's obvious it's down to the tactics and the manager , really is that simple
There is an argument that he made us money improving Bassey but there's also the argument he has cost us just as much with the regression of key assets such as kent , kamara & tav.
We had no intention of trying to win tonight. Exactly the same as Ajax where the same manager came out and said we can't compete
Leipzig was a shocker too.We had some stinkers away from home last season too , Folk calling for him to be sacked on our bus back to Porto from braga for example .
As others have said, this manager has sucked every bit of confidence we had as a European team out of us.These toothless displays stem from belief.
When we had it, went toe to toe with some very good European teams.
Now we don't have it, and even better teams are swatting us aside.
How do we get it back?
Taking into account the level of opponents in the two games I'd say your analysis is so far from the truth. The performance at the chamber of secrets was way way worse than tonightThat was another Chamber of Secrets performance from our players tonight. Totally froze and didn’t play like we know they can like last season in the EL.
The manager has sucked the belief out of the players and the support.
We get it back when he goes.
Exactly the attitude our players had,
Parma team 99 would beat this Liverpool team no problem.
We just had to give it a go but seemed like we were beat before a ball was kicked and that’s down to the manager.
Pathetic.
You're a dickThe manager has sucked the belief out of the players and the support.
We get it back when he goes.
I remember those glory days before Gio when we swept all before us in the CL. You might be too stupid to realise the irony in my post so I'll point out now that you're a lady's front bottom so %^*& offKeep the zero. Be terrified. Be scared.
Change coach and head of recruitment asapThese toothless displays stem from belief.
When we had it, went toe to toe with some very good European teams.
Now we don't have it, and even better teams are swatting us aside.
How do we get it back?
Football is not your sport, don't worry, you aren't the only oneThat was another Chamber of Secrets performance from our players tonight. Totally froze and didn’t play like we know they can like last season in the EL.
I'm sure we're all looking forward to being educated.Football is not your sport, don't worry, you aren't the only one
That was another Chamber of Secrets performance from our players tonight. Totally froze and didn’t play like we know they can like last season in the EL.
Sorry, I typed out an actual response to your bullshit point. Then I realised you don't appreciate how football works. Yiu don't deserve footballIt’s utterly depressing watching what we were during the 55 season to now.
Take CL out of it, we’ve been dire all season and hearts done us a favour going to 10men on Saturday.
Sooner the coward in the dugout is gone the better.
No they wouldn't have, as good a Parma team it was, this Liverpool team are betterExactly the attitude our players had,
Parma team 99 would beat this Liverpool team no problem.
We just had to give it a go but seemed like we were beat before a ball was kicked and that’s down to the manager.
Pathetic.
Do you think our players froze tonight? In front of a team that has made 3 out of 5 CL finals?Football is not your sport, don't worry, you aren't the only one
If it hadn’t been for McGregor it could have been 6 or 7 nil. You’re deluded.We got beat against the UCL finalists at home. most on here predicted a humping, we get beat and everyone is shocked
See when we play St Johnstone, do you expect to come up against a confident side with a gameplan that might well take something off us or do you expect we should leather them 4-0?Do you want Rangers being so passive and standing off opponents, hoping for the best. And I know what I am talking about. I know Liverpool’s quality, their budget and the gulf. But we should have a game plan, a first touch, a press, an aggression and confidence in possession. Our plan and our attempts at possession were embarrsssing for 80 minutes.
Piss offLiverpool have in Mo Salah one of the maybe top 10 players in the world? One of the best right backs in the world. One of the best centre backs in the world. Spent 80 mil on a striker this summer.
We lost. Of course we lost.
I'm not Gio's biggest fan but there's nothing to read into tonight.
You piss off you clown.Piss off
So were Dortmund, Liepzig, Porto and the rest, but we set up to compete in those games with our best starting line up, formation and tactics. We’re going backwards in every regard under Gio as time goes by. What he inherited, and all that has been good about Rangers since Gerrard arrived is eroding and fading fast.Maybe we can now stop all the talk of moving to England, we would need to buy a new team, Liverpool are so many levels above us, that much is obvious after tonight.