We would all love to sign finished article type players at the peaks of their careers but these players usually cost a lot of cash.The debate about Porteous is that he can get better,
Can we stop signing project players, please?
Yeah it’s over a certain age range McCann misses it.Didn’t realise that’s why I was asking. I wasn’t sure on the rules around the Scottish quota for euro squads.
I am no lover of Porteous mate but from your comments regarding his ability, i assume you dont think very much of Davies.Please Rangers don't sign Porteous
not even a decent player and baggage that comes with him
I am no lover of Porteous mate but from your comments regarding his ability, i assume you dont think very much of Davies.
I completely agree Beale has to bring in starters - not squad fillers or young prospects, however I disagree we need a whole new team. Goldson, Davies, Tav, Lundstram, Kamara, Kent all start for me if their attitude is right. So 5 starters needed - maybe less if Yilmaz lives up to early expectations.I'm not disagreeing with the concept you are talking about.
However Michael Beale, simply does not have the luxury of time. The manager has just two transfer windows (Jan and the summer) to get what has to be almost entirely a brand new team up and running that can qualify for next season's CL group stages.
That might seem unrealistic to you, but that is the frank, brutal and harsh reality of the matter.
Ryan Jack, that's why we shouldn't have signed him.We hear this shit all the time. What player gets red carded regularly?
Regularly? How many red cards (not rescinded) in how many appearances?Ryan Jack, that's why we shouldn't have signed him.
Look at Morelos, remember when Jack came to us first season?We hear this shit all the time. What player gets red carded regularly?
Sorry mate, my sarcasm was missing there. It was what was said about him at the time we signed him. And he had a few but cleaned up his act big time because we are refereed to a different standard and it's not been an issue since.Regularly? How many red cards (not rescinded) in how many appearances?
Depends on what Kent has been asking for.Kent odds on to sign for Everton.
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Massive blow imo,the only real game changer we have in wide areas,you can almost already guarantee he won’t be replaced to the same standard.Depends on what Kent has been asking for.
If he has made outrageous demands, ie EPL level wages that Everton can offer then there’s not really much we can do. It’s a blow for sure, if true. But he also has been miles from his best this season.
I had still hoped he would sign an extension but if his heart is elsewhere then it is what it is.
Should tell them 5 million or he can train with the U23s for the rest of the season.Kent odds on to sign for Everton.
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Zero chance of either happening.Should tell them 5 million or he can train with the U23s for the rest of the season.
If he’s leaving he shouldn’t be getting played he’s hardly set the world on fire in the last 12 months.Zero chance of either happening.
He was in the Europa league team of the season 6 months ago,pointless going round in circles about Kent & Morelos on here and what they bring to us.If he’s leaving he shouldn’t be getting played he’s hardly set the world on fire in the last 12 months.
He's not a nutter he's a scumbag.If he wisens up. We’ve had our fair share of absolute nutters down the years also.
He is a good player. But again, I’d only have him here if he changes his ways.
Forgot Ukraine were one of the powerhouses of European football. They still put Scotland out so that says it all about his performance. Can't believe anyone would want that rat In our jersey.To be fair he played very well against Ukraine when he played for Scotland and dominated their big striker Dovbyk.
The problem is he needs to do it on a consistent basis and cut out the mistakes in his game.
Goldson and Davies will likely be our centre back pairing but if he's available more than Souttar and Helander then he will be a decent back up.
King has potential but is miles off it. It would do him good to go out on loan and get some first team experience.
Whats he done in the league most of last season and this season still far next to nothing so if hes away i wouldn’t be giving him another second on the park.He was in the Europa league team of the season 6 months ago,pointless going round in circles about Kent & Morelos on here and what they bring to us.
He’s done nothing the same as the whole squad under GVB domestically.Whats he done in the league most of last season and this season still far next to nothing so if hes away i wouldn’t be giving him another second on the park.
What’s the point if he’s out the door m 6 months.He’s done nothing the same as the whole squad under GVB domestically.
Let’s see how different these players are playing in Beales setup.
Because we have things to play for.What’s the point if he’s out the door m 6 months.
Already an internationalist bud.The debate about Porteous is that he can get better,
Can we stop signing project players, please?
Not for me he’s done next Uk nothing in the League in 18 months he can goBecause we have things to play for.
He won a Domestic cup more than was ever done under anyone else for years in Cup competitions.He’s done nothing the same as the whole squad under GVB domestically.
Let’s see how different these players are playing in Beales setup.
We will never stop signing project players, the problem being we seem to have signed the wrong ones on recent viewings, lreviously we signed aribo, bassey, kamara, morelos etc none of those players were established players, i got pelters for this in the summer transfer window calling matondo amd yilmaz project players, we need more guys like lawrence colak and davies, two of them been injured but all three look like rangers players, when fit and playing. Young players tend to be up and down with their form and we need consistancy to win the league, at the same time though we need to develop players to sell them on.The debate about Porteous is that he can get better,
Can we stop signing project players, please?
Were we getting the money to design the finished article? What would you say if we were buying Grant Hanley for £6-7 m? Liam Cooper would cost much the same maybe more? They are both about the same international level as Porteous.The debate about Porteous is that he can get better,
Can we stop signing project players, please?
That explaines why Cooper played so often on the right.....All noise as far as I'm concerned let's see if we do properly invest in January I have my doubts same goes for next summer and I don't trust Wilson or our recruitment strategy.
If we are serious then we invest in at least 2 or 3 quality players in January add one or two quality bosmans to supplement the rebuild next summer which again requires serious finds I'm not getting my hopes up let's see what happens.
If we go down the bargain basement cheap route then expect more mediocre dross coming in which has been our go to option for several windows.
Hopefully in Jan, would be great to get some money for him and him off the wage bill.Kent odds on to sign for Everton.
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If we have 4 million to spend on a player like Davies then surely there will be better out there than RP.?Were we getting the money to design the finished article? What would you say if we were buying Grant Hanley for £6-7 m? Liam Cooper would cost much the same maybe more? They are both about the same international level as Porteous.
I would prefer the 23 year old every time.
Maybe you would prefer a Croat or a Serb? One we can’t register in our Euro squad so we have to keep changing the team every game
What would be your way forward and how would you pay for it?
I know,our recruitment has been so good,can’t wait.Hopefully in Jan, would be great to get some money for him and him off the wage bill.
Ryan Jack in his first season with usWe hear this shit all the time. What player gets red carded regularly?
Cant be much worse than Kent, but i accept your point.I know,our recruitment has been so good,can’t wait.
Is Kent now being judged as 1 of our worst signings on here now? HahahaCant be much worse than Kent, but i accept your point.
Is Kent now being judged as 1 of our worst signings on here now? Hahaha
Not Scottish that meets homegrown criteria. Unless I am missing something?If we have 4 million to spend on a player like Davies then surely there will be better out there than RP.?
You said any new signing can’t be worse than Kent,took that to be you thought Kent hasn’t been a good signing.Think you just made that leap yourself mate. Im talking about his form.
The homegrown criteria doesn't have to be a defender though, does it?Not Scottish that meets homegrown criteria. Unless I am missing something?
Ok so who else available on a Bosman? We need more than one BTWThe homegrown criteria doesn't have to be a defender though, does it?
£4m is a piss amount for an established defender. Scott McKenna even went for £6m.If we have 4 million to spend on a player like Davies then surely there will be better out there than RP.?
Like the look of McKinstry on loan at Motherwell. Out of contract at Leeds in the summer.Ok so who else available on a Bosman? We need more than one BTW
Should tell them 5 million or he can train with the U23s for the rest of the season.
We won’t beat them consistently until we upgrade every part of the business. From the chairman down we have plenty lacking talent. Then there’s the squad full of overpaid shitebags. Years of pain await us.I absolutely agree. We are not up against a particularly good celtic side nor are they particularly well managed. The fact we have fallen so far behind them so quickly is not purely down to GVB. It is down to the players themselves, RW and the board who have made so many bad decisions which have wasted so much of our money.
We still have a lot of individuals at the club who are passengers and who we need to be rid of in order to build something substantial and lasting. This includes Kent & Morelos, who may have the ability but have not shown it often enough in recent years to be worthy of being retained.