That's probably worse than the "blaming todays 4-1 win on Gerrard" thread.I’ll repeat: For what I have seen So far,
Morgan looks the better of the two imho.
That's probably worse than the "blaming todays 4-1 win on Gerrard" thread.I’ll repeat: For what I have seen So far,
Morgan looks the better of the two imho.
Would rather have signed turncoat Morgan
to be honest.For what I have seen he looks
the better player.
None have.
he should have stayed with us another player whom took the money instead of developing his career
he'd say, get the drugs out to make me bigger!what would messi think of some of the comments in this post??
too wee jesus christ
Chelsea youngster Billy Gilmour admits he is keen to leave on loan for first-team opportunities. The 17-year-old Scottish U21 midfielder joined Chelsea from Rangers last summer.
He told the Daily Record: "You see all the boys going out on loan at Chelsea and how much it’s benefiting them. Jake Clarke-Salter and Fikayo Tomori are out just now at Vitesse Arnhem in Holland and at Derby County.
"Tammy Abraham is at Aston Villa and Mason Mount is another at Derby and he has just been called into the full England squad. I played Under-18s last year to settle in. Now I’ve moved up to Under-23 and will try to kick on. I’ll take it bit by bit."
what would messi think of some of the comments in this post??
too wee jesus christ
he should have stayed with us another player whom took the money instead of developing his career
what would messi think of some of the comments in this post??
too wee jesus christ
Why didn't he just stay with us if he were to come back on loan?
Is our training set up really that inferior to Chelsea's?
Only answer suitable shock billionaire club have a better youth system
he should have stayed with us another player whom took the money instead of developing his career
Here's the thing...if he had stayed with us, he would probably be breaking into our first team next year, on maybe 5k a week
Then after, maybe 2 seasons, if he was successful with us, he would probably be on 20k a week, which is what he still may be on at Chelsea in 2 or 3 years, because he won't get into their first team by that age.
Then, he could have moved from us to an EPL team for big money, with a big signing on fee, making the club some decent money and having a far greater number of first team appearances under his belt.
Would have been better staying with us until he knew who our new manager was going to be. For me, he made the wrong choice of career move.
Is he not developing his career? He's featuring (and standing out) at one of the best youth academies in the World.
One of our star players (Kent) is currently doing what Gilmour is looking to do in developing his career.
Some people's attitude on here, to what was a 15 year old boy's decision at the time, is frankly bizarre.
Here's the thing...if he had stayed with us, he would probably be breaking into our first team next year, on maybe 5k a week
Then after, maybe 2 seasons, if he was successful with us, he would probably be on 20k a week, which is what he still may be on at Chelsea in 2 or 3 years, because he won't get into their first team by that age.
Then, he could have moved from us to an EPL team for big money, with a big signing on fee, making the club some decent money and having a far greater number of first team appearances under his belt.
Would have been better staying with us until he knew who our new manager was going to be. For me, he made the wrong choice of career move.
Small and Frail... He is a young lad not a fecking granny.No.
Too small, frail and not ready. Who would he play ahead of?
In 18months maybe.
I honestly think Billy has a chance of making it at Chelsea.As for coming to us next season,I don't think so.He's not physically mature enough for first team football in Scotland or England.
He may think he is ready to go out on loan but I just hope some one at Chelsea knows better and reigns him in a bit.
Needs to go to Holland or similar to begin with as he will get time on the ball.
If we went to England’s lower leagues or back up here, he’d get broken in half.
I have a genuine fear that his size and build could really hold him back.
Hardly a good example when he’s currently out injured after a bad tackle....Didn't hold Harry Cochrane of Hearts back last season playing CM? Who is probably slimmer than Gilmour and also scored against Celtic
Hardly a good example when he’s currently out injured after a bad tackle....
So have numerous other players from every team in the league? Dorrans and Jack for us. Now they aren't slouches, are they.
Salah, de Bruyne and Lukaku couldn't make it at Chelsea what chance does Billy Gilmour have ?
I know its not the same but, honestly in any case I cant think of any player who has come up through the youth ranks at Chelsea to be a first team regular.
The poster you quoted said he would be halved in our league, you used Cochrane as an example. He’s currently out injured after being halved in our league.
I’m almost sure the Lego eater injured him last year in the league as well.
The fact senior professionals are out with injured after bad tackles actually reinforces the original statement. This league is not suitable for a 16 year old making his way in the game, it’s full of thugs and the referees are useless
Salah, de Bruyne and Lukaku couldn't make it at Chelsea what chance does Billy Gilmour have ?
I know its not the same but, honestly in any case I cant think of any player who has come up through the youth ranks at Chelsea to be a first team regular.
Was he not talking to Celtic before opting to join Chelsea? Is his dad (agent) not a Tim?
I have no idea if the above is true just read it on here. Just thinking if he’s going on loan then Rangers , where he chose to leave after being given a fantastic offer and the manager spoke to him giving him assurances, may not be his first choice. Tbh I would think it a pretty bizarre choice. He’s Chelsea’s player and they would want him to broaden his footballing knowledge not go back to where he was previously
All about the money.Why didn't he just stay with us if he were to come back on loan?
Is our training set up really that inferior to Chelsea's?
His dad is a Celtic ST holder yes.
Nearly posted in the above post till I read this 1
Absolute nonsense
Not got a clue why people post things as if they know what there talking about regarding
Young billy or his immediate family
Was he not talking to Celtic before opting to join Chelsea? Is his dad (agent) not a Tim?
I have no idea if the above is true just read it on here. Just thinking if he’s going on loan then Rangers , where he chose to leave after being given a fantastic offer and the manager spoke to him giving him assurances, may not be his first choice. Tbh I would think it a pretty bizarre choice. He’s Chelsea’s player and they would want him to broaden his footballing knowledge not go back to where he was previously
Do you know them personally?
I'm B licensed as a coach, played at an ok level. The game is becoming robotic, same patterns over and over by athletes rather than players.
Given the choice between player and athlete I'll take the player. There is a school of thought that you get the biggest/strongest/fittest and you then give them the tools to be effective players. Its making the game sterile. There are certain things you simply cant coach. A player that can read the game and understand where he/she needs to be at any given time can be made fitter and stronger.
Its much harder to give the big/strong player the tools to be able to read the game.
No point, he's nowhere near ready to play first team football.
I have to reply to this
Young billy has the same agent as Gareth bale
Forget his name
An not sure how you know about assurances
I know a lot about what went on but not everything
An the speculation on here about not facts are crazy
When at Rangers his dad was his agent. Not really surprising he’s moved on from that
According to people , like you, his dad is a Celtic fan
He did speak to Celtic before opting for Chelsea. It’s not a crime and any agent worth his salt would look at all options
Are you claiming that Pedro went to meet Billy and his family and didn’t try and sell the club to him?
He’s playing with and against far better players than what he was up here, and he’s improved a lot since he left. He’s also set himself and his family up for life. It’s easy for us to sit online and say you’d stay at Rangers, but bear in mind we were an absolute shambles under Caixinha and Murty at that time and there was every chance he could fail to make the grade up here.he should have stayed with us another player whom took the money instead of developing his career
When at Rangers his dad was his agent. Not really surprising he’s moved on from that
According to people , like you, his dad is a Celtic fan
He did speak to Celtic before opting for Chelsea. It’s not a crime and any agent worth his salt would look at all options
Are you claiming that Pedro went to meet Billy and his family and didn’t try and sell the club to him?
No.
Too small, frail and not ready. Who would he play ahead of?
In 18months maybe.
Your partly correct
Obviously his dad was taking care of his son
At meetings at 14/15 years of age
Before it went crazy regarding teams interested
Then it becomes to big for some parents
I’ve took what you’ve said wrong
Regarding the agent part in terms of what I thought you were saying
An I’m not saying anything
I wouldn’t on a public forum
I’ve read lots of nonsense regarding the whole situation
But sometimes I bite (maybe I shouldn’t )
He's too wee? What size do you think he is going to grow to, 6'2?He is too wee at the moment, but it's hardly a surprise seeing as he is just 17.
The forum is full of folk whinging after a 4-1 win today, I'd hate to see what it would be like if we dropped points with a 17 year old Chelsea loanee playing